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jerseyart

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It was suggested to me that it would be a major career plus for me to accept a position overseas for at least 2 years. I know that everyone else has had to do their "duty". They're offering a lot, and saying no while it wouldnt cost me my job, would not be looked upon favorably

I just can't see myself living abroad for that long, away from everyone I care about. Who else has done it, or not done it, and how did it work out for you
 
JerseyArt said:
It was suggested to me that it would be a major career plus for me to accept a position overseas for at least 2 years. I know that everyone else has had to do their "duty". They're offering a lot, and saying no while it wouldnt cost me my job, would not be looked upon favorably

I just can't see myself living abroad for that long, away from everyone I care about. Who else has done it, or not done it, and how did it work out for you


i think you should go.
:qt:
i'm kidding.
kinda
i mean... i am.
kidding.
about kidding.
lol
no, seriously, go.
lol
no, don't.
unless you want to.
then go.
what country?
 
Probably the worst one would be if they asked me to go to Australia, at least distance wise.

Othewrwise I would end up in Europe, either switzerland or the UK
 
JerseyArt said:
Probably the worst one would be if they asked me to go to Australia, at least distance wise.

Othewrwise I would end up in Europe, either switzerland or the UK

I'd be pretty happy in switzerland or the UK.
both are cool countries.
if you'd be making more money, you could come back to the US and visit.
 
Sugarplum said:
I'd be pretty happy in switzerland or the UK.
both are cool countries.
if you'd be making more money, you could come back to the US and visit.

They do cover my airfare for visits back. Haven't discussed it, but I know its at least 4 times a year, or thats what I recall from converstaions in the past with others.

Im really thinking though Im going to cut it off before it comes to actual negotiations. I would miss far too much Id never get back being that far away from family especially.
 
JerseyArt said:
They do cover my airfare for visits back. Haven't discussed it, but I know its at least 4 times a year, or thats what I recall from converstaions in the past with others.

Im really thinking though Im going to cut it off before it comes to actual negotiations. I would miss far too much Id never get back being that far away from family especially.
Shit man, I thought you were going to the desert. I would jump at the chance to move to any of the countries you mentioned. With bonuses, just do it! I moved all over the country when I was younger, I think its good to get out of the same old senerey. stagnant, rotting away, that sort of thing.
Oh yeah and get your self a God loves america T shirt to wear when you're over there.
 
2 years is a big chunk of life. in my experience, moving away for extended periods messes most people up. social networks failing and all that. depends on you...ask for more details...
 
GoldenDelicious said:
2 years is a big chunk of life. in my experience, moving away for extended periods messes most people up. social networks failing and all that. depends on you...ask for more details...


Two years goes by extremely fast - I moved four years ago and it's "just like yesterday" - I still know where my moving bill is and which boxes I still never unboxed.

It could just be that time feels differently to everyone or that some people plan their lives to closely around everyone else's lives and their plans.
 
JerseyArt said:
They do cover my airfare for visits back. Haven't discussed it, but I know its at least 4 times a year, or thats what I recall from converstaions in the past with others.

Im really thinking though Im going to cut it off before it comes to actual negotiations. I would miss far too much Id never get back being that far away from family especially.


That's just insane.

Why would you willing want to live your life in a box?

I don't understand that at all - you can visit every 4 TIMES a year and it's paid for???

What more do you need?
 
It's all nonsense.

They don't need me overseas. But this year they couldnt promote, so they gave me compensation on par with what I would have earned had I been. So now they're looking for somewhere to stick me where they can promote me to that level, and it will end up being overseas if they do. Frankly Id rather have my old pay and stay put.

I want to see my nieces and nephews grow, and my parents are getting older. I see them at least a few times a week now, and my dad isnt well.

If I were younger it might be different. But especially now my priorities are meeting someone/building a family of my own. I dont want to put that off for another 2-3 years. If Im ever going to have children, I want to be young enough to enjoy them. Coming back 3 years from now would mean just starting the search process then, ass couple more years to make sure its for real etc etc
 
I appreciate what your saying V. And if they push hard, not sure if no will even be an option. Franbkly I thought I was beyond this a few years back.

You know Im a psices, don't ask us to be practical;)
 
Decisions like this aint' easy bro. I figured this out myself recently.

You gotta do what is rigth for you!

I have recently decided to leave family and everything I have built to move to another city knowing chances are slim to none I will ever come back.

Just do what is right for you bro and you will be fine!
 
No way for me.
 
JerseyArt said:
I want to see my nieces and nephews grow, and my parents are getting older. I see them at least a few times a week now, and my dad isnt well.

If I were younger it might be different. But especially now my priorities are meeting someone/building a family of my own. I dont want to put that off for another 2-3 years. If Im ever going to have children, I want to be young enough to enjoy them. Coming back 3 years from now would mean just starting the search process then, ass couple more years to make sure its for real etc etc

It's a respectable response even though it is possible to meet someone abroad or not meet anyone right here where you are now over the course of two years.

I think your mad for not doing it but I also think that your reasoning for staying makes you a special person.
 
velvett said:
You have a different situation than JA though, you have a child and legal commitments you have to adhere to, JA does not.

Yes maam. BUt I couldn't do it anyway for the same reasons he said. I was close to my nieces and nephew too.
 
YEah JA, the day I picked my little 2 year old niece up (I had been really down, of course she didn't know) and she patted me on the back and said, "I love U Bra-ee." Man, I couldn't leave that. Later, they turned out to be mean as snakes, but now that they are older (she is 18),. they are becoming very sweet again.
 
Thanks V, you're an angel

Biteme: You can never replace those years with children, not for anything in the world.

The other day I was playing with them at my sis hosue. The 4 year old decides shes gonna "butt kick" me (her pharasing) and tells me shes going to do just that in her lil slurry voice. She then spends the next 20 minutes wrestling with my arm, straining with all her might. I tell her she should give up, she cant win. Still cncentrating as hard as she can, straining with all her lil miuscles, she say " I.....hate.....give.....up"

It was freaking adorable. That one has a will like iron
 
JerseyArt said:
I want to see my nieces and nephews grow, and my parents are getting older. I see them at least a few times a week now, and my dad isnt well.

If I were younger it might be different. But especially now my priorities are meeting someone/building a family of my own. I dont want to put that off for another 2-3 years. If Im ever going to have children, I want to be young enough to enjoy them. Coming back 3 years from now would mean just starting the search process then, ass couple more years to make sure its for real etc etc

You just answered your question right there. I am in the same boat as you. I have two nephews, ages one and three, who are like my own sons. I also have two parents who are both up there in age and need my help.

Regardless how many times you may get to go back home to visit, in two years time you will miss so many of those little things that make life worth living. Taking your nephews out to the park when they are bored at home doing nothing. Helping your mom take down that box from a high shelf. Helping dad reorganize his garage. All those little things are truly special.

Those telling you to go probably don't have a truly deep connection with their family. For people like you and I, two years will not go by as fast as many would think. When it's all said and done, family means everything.

Is there anything wrong living for someone else when that someone else is a child or a parent? Hell fuckin NO!!!
 
wutangnomo said:
You just answered your question right there. I am in the same boat as you. I have two nephews, ages one and three, who are like my own sons. I also have two parents who are both up there in age and need my help.

Regardless how many times you may get to go back home to visit, in two years time you will miss so many of those little things that make life worth living. Taking your nephews out to the park when they are bored at home doing nothing. Helping your mom take down that box from a high shelf. Helping dad reorganize his garage. All those little things are truly special.

Those telling you to go probably don't have a truly deep connection with their family. For people like you and I, two years will not go by as fast as many would think. When it's all said and done, family means everything.

Is there anything wrong living for someone else when that someone else is a child or a parent? Hell fuckin NO!!!

I hear you bor.

we're all jsut wired different is all. Not better or worse,just different.

I've never been the type to define myself by what I do. Im the same person I was before, will eb the same I hope when all is said and done. But God and family are all that really mattters to me.

Plus it wouldnt be fair to them since Im their favorite uncle;)
 
wutangnomo said:
Those telling you to go probably don't have a truly deep connection with their family. For people like you and I, two years will not go by as fast as many would think. When it's all said and done, family means everything.

Is there anything wrong living for someone else when that someone else is a child or a parent? Hell fuckin NO!!!


Or they don't have such an extended family.

Interesting that you say child or parent - how about spouse? Or is it really only about blood relatives?
 
velvett said:
Or they don't have such an extended family.

Interesting that you say child or parent - how about spouse? Or is it really only about blood relatives?

It's not really about having an extended family or not, to me it's simply about .... family. If I only had a parent and nobody else (knock on wood) I would still feel the same. Essentially it's about having someone who depends on me, and that often means children and parents (as is the case with me). With respect to a spouse, I was speaking more along the lines of myself and since I don't have one right now I left spouse out, but yes spouse would be included as well.
 
velvett said:
It's a respectable response even though it is possible to meet someone abroad or not meet anyone right here where you are now over the course of two years.

I think your mad for not doing it but I also think that your reasoning for staying makes you a special person.

That's what I was thinking. The woman that is looking for someone like you may be on the other end of your flight. You never know unless you go.

In the case of distance from your relatives, the tech in today's age makes it easier to stay in touch. Only after I graduated from high school did I realize I had no way to keep in touch with my friends other than the addresses in the yearbook. Those were mostly useless once they went to college. The young men that I have met from my old school all have cell phones and have either laptops or personal home computers with multiple email addresses that they can access from anywhere. My email has the video mail function that I don't use since I don't have a cam.

As said previously Art, two years is not long. They will only miss you a little between visits on the company fare. :)
 
you sound 60 yrs old

wheres the damned adventure in you

I want to be with my family

you sound like you're fixing to die or some shit
 
wutangnomo said:
It's not really about having an extended family or not, to me it's simply about .... family. If I only had a parent and nobody else (knock on wood) I would still feel the same. Essentially it's about having someone who depends on me, and that often means children and parents (as is the case with me). With respect to a spouse, I was speaking more along the lines of myself and since I don't have one right now I left spouse out, but yes spouse would be included as well.


Maybe it's that people have different expectations for their life and different priorities, one not more important than another but simply not the same.
 
I can understand if you want to be with your family, but it is a great opportunity. If you have never lived abroad before you will have more personal growth then you could imagine. So many great experiences, so many great people, so many great places. I can't see living life without living from a different perspective at least once. I have done it twice and plan to maybe do it again in the future. I actually am doing what I can now to have a job someday that allows me opportunities to work abroad. See the world broshi.
 
Robert Jan said:
you sound 60 yrs old

wheres the damned adventure in you

I want to be with my family

you sound like you're fixing to die or some shit





ROFL.. :spit:


Have some adventure. My brother lived abroad for a couple years. Did not change or relationship. I was happy for him and I got to meet some cool peeps.

Heck, My mom is talking about hanging out in Italy or Ireland for awhile. More power to her.


I guess a come from an adventurous group. ;)
 
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