What makes you fat? Carbs or Fat?

[Sim882]

Good post Tat, but I have heard about you avoiding certain meal combos (C+F) or insulin spikes when cutting.

Are you dropping this advice now?

 

[alexis12]

Usually fat food takes longer to digest than carbs and so it is less likely to be stored as body fat as against carbs, if used the right way. Regardsless of what we eat, the body does try to process in the same way but the end result varies.



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[Tatyana]

Good post Tat, but I have heard about you avoiding certain meal combos (C+F) or insulin spikes when cutting.

Are you dropping this advice now?

I think it depends on your bodyfat to lean tissue ratio.

If you are quite fat/obese, then keeping the insulin in check is a good idea. Food combining may work better.

If you are lean/low body fat, insulin is highly anabolic and will help you preserve lean tissue.

I don't think food combos make that much difference when you are eating clean, have a good digestion, you are lean.

I do think some people are better suited to higher carbs or higher fat diets (keeping the protein higher in most diets).

I am leaning more towards the 'it's really all about the calories' rather than any macronutrient, as long as they are the 'good' fats, carbs and proteins.

 

[GUARDIAN]

excess calories in general but for me for example i can eat two different diets with the same total cals. one will be much higher in carbs than the other and i will get fat off of that one and not the other.

really depends on your body type. if u r leaning toward the endo side of things then i say too many carbs can be the culprit.

 

[Blane]

So a sixpack a night of bavarian style beer is no good?

 

[nikkita]

Ive noticed my body doesnt mind fats of any kinds but its hates carbs/sugar and its what makes me put on fat.
And I also crave sugar more than anything.

Anyone else?

It happens to me too!

In my experience, I have tried so many calorie ratios 45/45/10, 40/30/30, 30/40/30... etc.. and I can say yes calories are important in order to reach your goals, but also how your body respond to the foods you put in your diet.

I could eat much protein with little fat and little carbs to cut but the quality of my muscles would not look the same as if I were to add fat, that works best for me.

When I rely mostly on carbs and the look I get is kind of puffy muscles... when I lower carbs and increase fats (the good ones of course) my muscles get a whole different consistency.

So my point is, we are all different in terms of how carb/sugar or fat affect us. So we have to find the combination that works best for us.

 

[shogun7]

It happens to me too!

In my experience, I have tried so many calorie ratios 45/45/10, 40/30/30, 30/40/30... etc.. and I can say yes calories are important in order to reach your goals, but also how your body respond to the foods you put in your diet.

I could eat much protein with little fat and little carbs to cut but the quality of my muscles would not look the same as if I were to add fat, that works best for me.

When I rely mostly on carbs and the look I get is kind of puffy muscles... when I lower carbs and increase fats (the good ones of course) my muscles get a whole different consistency.

So my point is, we are all different in terms of how carb/sugar or fat affect us. So we have to find the combination that works best for us.

Word up. It's all about experimentation. I find that carbs are the culprit for me if not in check. More fat and protein with a moderate amount of carbs workes best for me so far. It can be a fine balance.

 

[deathdroprob]

Just a random question, some may thinks it stupied.
I was thinking about not coutning total cals all at and just doing this (for cutting):
Meal 1: 30 grams Protein, 30 Grams carbs
..
...
...
Meal 6: 30 Grams Protein, 20 Grams of Fat


Is this a wise aproach?

 

[Sim882]

Are meal 2-5 the same as meal 1?

I don't get what you meat, but 30P+30C is only 240 cals, so this would be major low cal dieting, and ultimately detrimental.

Count cals at least roughly.

And from what u have written before, get rid of coke and whiskey - if necessary, use coke zero!

 

[Sim882]

So Tat, last week I decided to use whole milk on oats instead of skim, as one of many ways of boosting my cals. I've been playing heaps of squash (like 1.5 hrs per day on top of weights) lately and have found that I just can't eat enough, and seem to be waking up all night and binging on food. This isn't effect my bf, so it's just showing I'm not eating enough during the day.

I'm assuming then on 1/2 arsed bulking (I refer to my bulking as this, as I'm doing to much cardio sports for it to really happen quickly), whole milk (fat) and carbs is fine? To make getting the cals easier, I was thinking of adding fat to each meal but PWO, although I've read studies suggesting whole milk is awesome PWO too

I think it depends on your bodyfat to lean tissue ratio.

If you are quite fat/obese, then keeping the insulin in check is a good idea. Food combining may work better.

If you are lean/low body fat, insulin is highly anabolic and will help you preserve lean tissue.

I don't think food combos make that much difference when you are eating clean, have a good digestion, you are lean.

I do think some people are better suited to higher carbs or higher fat diets (keeping the protein higher in most diets).

I am leaning more towards the 'it's really all about the calories' rather than any macronutrient, as long as they are the 'good' fats, carbs and proteins.