what i've up with, let me get your thoughts

[joefire]

what i've come up with, let me get your thoughts

Hi there guys...
With my current situation I've come up with this cycle, being that it is my first please tell me what you think.

4 weeks Dbol 25mg day
last 2 weeks of Dbol start Winney 4 weeks haven't figured mg (have to reread recommended dosage)
and last week - 1 1/2 of Dbol start Nolva 20 mg day for 3 weeks

I should be getting the above mentioned soon at my location.
Open to suggestions with times, etc...Respectfully, Joe

 

[clublavela]

Why not add a test base man? I'd up the dosage of dbol up to 30 and spilt them up throughout the daily. Dbol only has a life span of 3 or 4 hours. If your only running dbol i would run it for 6 weeks. Get extra nolva on hand in case of early signs of gyno. i would really adda test base thats where your going to see great gains!

 

[joefire]

yeah i was planning on breaking it up through out the day,and already have the gyno in mind. I just can't add test or anything else of that nature. I'm currently in the desert (middle east) it would not work well for me. Thanks though, also this would be the very first cycle. respectfully Joe

 

[02gixxersix2]

That cycle looks horrible for a first cycle. Get some test and run 500mg a week for 10 weeks. 3 weeks after your last shot start PCT. Have some nolvadex on hand before you start the cycle. You want to have enough to combat gyno symptoms if they arise.

 

[fugetaboutit]

Bro, that's a bad first cycle (or any cycle for that matter) but I see your circumstance. What I would do if I "had" to go forward with that cycle is not overlap the d-bol with the winny. Two orals at the same time is not the greatest idea. You don't want to do that....specially first cycle. Also, do you have access to liver protectants over there? (milk thistle, or LIV 52, or tyler's?) . One more thing. Are you in the dessert serving our armed forces? If so (we support you and appreciate what you're doing) but I don't see how doing aas over there will be of any benefit in terms of proper dieting, working out, hydration, etc to make you grow. You my expect a lot from this cycle, but chances are you won't recieve much, if anything at all. Just some thoughts bro. Be safe over there!

 

[Themachine01]

I would honestly just stick with the dbol and not even worry about the winny in your case, or vice versa. You can keep the dose at 25mg/day which is a low dose and run it longer.

 

[joefire]

Hydration isn't a problem,diet, and access to weights either. Currently, I am 4 weeks back into working out, had two sugeries. I'm now benching as a workout weight 275 - 300 lbs and curling about 55 - 60 lbs dumb bells each hand. I'm kinda big now, I just want to build up that little more. I'm fully aware I may only keep about 10 - 20
% of my gains, but that's ok with me. I just needed that little extra bit to make me happy. I would like to do the winny to make my muscles more solid and try to keep as much as possible. I alsocan't get, and I knowyou guys are going to flame me on this one...'too' big, obviously because of the job I do.I need to be able to run, jump, swim,etc...I think you get the picture. Thanks for your advice and support...Respectfully Joe
PS Any suggestions on how to fine tune what I have posted, please feel free I got these products coming to me soon, based on suggestions.

 

[RADAR]

winny is gonna be rough on your joints if you got to do all that running,jumping and etc.

RADAR

 

[joefire]

even if it's 1st time ever? the research i did showed it to be a muscle hardening, and endurance/performance drug, due to the lean muscle encouragement... i guess that's why i'm lucky to have you guys to bounce these ideas around, thanks.
since, obviously i haven't gotten the full scoop, what am i missing here? once again thanks guys! respectfully joe

 

[stuck]

Not to pile on, but if you need to run / jump / swim, dbol is a bad choice as well. I can't even run 1/2 mile on dbol. If you're set on a small oral only cycle then tbol and anavar would probably be better choices for you.

 

[silverbackn]

Can anybody guess what I'm gonna say? Here we go, 500mg's of test for 10-12 weeks. Keep it simple.

 

[AMGETR]

Drop the winny.

 

[joefire]

Thanks for the input guys!!! I wanted to know though if I'm doing alot of running will the dbol cause me to lose my ability to run , endurance, etc??? Is it the pump, fatiuge???Respectfully Joe

 

[The Terminator]

That looks like an inmates "cycle"

And YES, those drugs will probably both inhibit your endurance level (ALL orals do to me )

 

[joefire]

Thanks, I'm sorry if I sound like noob, but I am. I really like to hear the input, after all the way I look at it is 'all of us is smarter than any one of us'. Respectfully Joe