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What is wrong with people?
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heatherrae
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yeah, same assholes who take a young girl to a "coming of age" party where she doesn't know what to expect and then ties them down, and cuts out their clitoris with a dirty implement. Then, some sew the labia together. CRUEL and STUPID! This sort of woman hatred in certain parts of the world has to be stopped!
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jenscats5
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Mr. dB said:
I'm desensitized to stupidity in the world as of now.
KillahBee
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I'm not taking sides here or judging, but there is no right and wrong in the world. There are only beliefs. If there is a country out there with it's own belief systems, in which all members are a part of, then I don't see a problem with it. Speaking from a level most of you don't seem to even know exists...
Seems to me that a lot of you are judging other cultures through YOUR cultural lense, which isn't fair in the least.
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Seems to me that a lot of you are judging other cultures through YOUR cultural lense, which isn't fair in the least.
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KillahBee said:
The problem is, nothing stays separate. The fact that news of such a practice made it to CNN is evidence of a leak. When it starts to impact other cultures/beliefs is when problems start. The seed's already been planted here, there'll be some far left group over there soon enough to "help" them, involving our country's resources/money. Politics spread like wildfire and are about as equally chaotic. Hell I couldn't care less either if they all stayed over there and did that, whatever suits them. Too late now.
People believe Lincoln wanted to free the slaves. Nope, he wanted what was best for the nation.
HiDnGoD said:
Either way though it's a stupid practice, and yeah I think there belief is stupid. They can do what they want I guess, but doesn't keep it from being stupid. Implants are also stupid. Took some growing up on my part to cut through the bullshit and realize that one though.
KillahBee said:Damn, hansel. I was really starting to like you...and then you went and said this.
lmao!
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heatherrae
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KB we are talking about having their sexual organs cut off with unsterile instruments, no anaesthesia or anasthetic. Completely cutting off a woman's clit is cruel, period. There was a story that I read where they sewed a young girl's vagina so tightly that when she started menstruating, menstrual fluids could not be expelled for several months. Her lower abdomen distended. Her ignorant parents thought that she was pregnant, so they beat the little girl to death. I don't care how open minded you are, you can't possibly think that cutting these girls up is acceptable. Female genital mutilation has to come to an end.KillahBee said:
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jenscats5
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KillahBee said:
But what I find interesting is that in these countries, it always seems it's the women who have to adjust/change in order to prevent sexual abuse/molestation, etc......It's the women who have to have their bodies completely covered or disfigured (breast ironing, genital mutilation, etc) to prevent the men from finding them attractive as opposed to say, removing 1 testicle with a sharp piece of glass at the age of 8 or 9 yo so they won't be as sexually inclined......
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heatherrae
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Yes, HidnGod, it is almost always done by the family. In some cultures the mom does it herself. In others, they take them out and there may be a whole bunch of girls and they will use the same knife to go from one girl to the next without sterilization. I am talking about FMG here, but it is analogous to breast ironing.HiDnGoD said:
Thank goodness the practice of foot binding stopped. Many girls were left where they were permanently crippled.
I did a very extensive paper on the practice of female genital mutilation when I was in law school. In my opinion, the practice should be considered a human rights violation under the Geneva convention.
I feel very strongly about this topic.
Men, imagine having your penis removed against your will with a dirty knife because someone thought you should not receive pleasure from sex.
HeatherRae said:
HR, the sad part is that tragedy like this will never end (it's definitely not normal to mutilate someone's natural biology and alter their natural biological functions). It would be nice to think that it could if we all worked together and did something about it, but in the end it's idealistic thinking. I do understand KB's basis of thought on some path here though. Anyways how much resources/effort are we, the world's babysitter, willing to spend to change other people's beliefs? That seems to be a popular theme these days.
HiDnGoD said:
HiDnGoD did Elton John really say that? lmao I didn't realize OMEGA was so popular.
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heatherrae
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Believe me, I get the entire argument against cultural prejudice. In my opinion, I am extremely open minded about other people's cultures. I am not open minded, however, about mutilating little girls' bodies. Lots of these little girls die of infections and complications.KillahBee said:I was making a larger point about the way people think.
I didn't expect anyone to get it.
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heatherrae
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Well, I don't completely buy your premise that there is no right or wrong, and that there are only beliefs about what is right or wrong. Some things come down as a matter of natural law. I think this sort of thing falls in the category as being an aberration of natural law. Some things are right and wrong, period.KillahBee said:
Wasn't it something about the fact that, to us, many of these practices are reprehensible, yet to others, it's the norm. They think we are sticking our noses in where they don't belong.KillahBee said:
BTW I don't think FGM(clitoris/vaginal mutilation) is the same as what is going on here.
and no, Elton John didn't say that. I just didn't want Omegollum bombing the person if I used their quote.
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Spartacus
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sent us back to hell
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heatherrae
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That is the very argument that I thought he was making -- the argument that it is just one culture judging the norms of another = cultural prejudice.HiDnGoD said:
Having brought the issue up, I suppose the next step is to opine about what should be done about it. This is where the loony left and the rigid right usually converge and agree "there oughtta be a law..." I suggest leaving it in private hands. Let the zealots and crusaders make the world aware of the problem, publicize and shame the practitioners, promote education, in the vain hope that Cameroon and other countries will discourage or outlaw these practices on a local level.
theoak01
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I agree with my man killa on juding other cultures based on our beliefs, while I do think this is fucked up I definately cant condemn it because thats how shit works over there.
same with how saddam ran his country,and the chinesse shipped baby girls off ,I dont agree but who am I to judge? Im sure they dont agree with alot of our western views on things.
same with how saddam ran his country,and the chinesse shipped baby girls off ,I dont agree but who am I to judge? Im sure they dont agree with alot of our western views on things.
I think it's different between saddam & the chinese babies.theoak01 said:
saddam tried to kill off whole populations inhis country. Just because it's his country doesn't make it acceptable. The purported Chinese baby girl situation is not a government mandate or policy. It is a cultural thing based on the premise that male children are more valuable than female.
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heatherrae
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I can condemn killing and maiming children. Give me a break. It's just wrong. It doesn't make anyone appear more enlightened to say, "oh, it's their culture and I'm open minded." Genocide and terror are some countries policy, and we all know as human beings that it is wrong.theoak01 said:
Phenom78
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theoak01 said:
I love you Oak but that is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read.
Use your brain. There is no cultural exemption for human rights abuses. Murder, rape, torture, and slavery do not become acceptable depending on geography. That's the simple part.
Somewhat more difficult to grasp for some is the notion that there are such things as superior cultures. We aren't required to pretend otherwise. Cultures that value human rights are superior to those who don't. Societies that don't sell 10yr old girls into slavery as prostitutes are "better" than those which do. Tolerance of foreign cultures doesn't require that we suspend all reason and basic decency.
theoak01
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Phenom78 said:
nowhere did I say I agree,I just stated that it isnt my place nor anyone who lives a different lifestyle to try and enforce our beliefs on anyone else.
i think they are sick fucks and id not think twice about shooting them right between the eyes,I just dont believe in global police actions
SublimeZM said:
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