what is this guy talking about? Bashing sustenon!?

[Mr_Pincushonass]

My friend was talking to some guy today at the jym about different steroids and stuff. This guy has competed in his younger years and he won quite a few times etc. Then my friend brought up sustenon and the guy said sustenon does nothing! WTF is this asshole talking about!!?? I used it at only 250mg per week for 8 weeks and gained 25lbs of solid muscle!! This guy must know something about steroids since he has taken everything under the sun. Can you guys believe this dink?! Hes also like 40 years old, maybe hes senile already or something.

 

[Mike P.T.]

pay no mind to this moron. he kind of remids me of golfer18. STUPID!!!!! sus is my personal test favorite. its good stuff. im sure the bro's in here agree that its good stuff as well althouhg some may prefer other tests than this

 

[Golfer18--old]

See its childish post like these that ruin the board.

 

[nautica]

First of all Sustanon is 250 mg of testosterone which is good. But what your friend may been saying is that for mg for mg sustanon is not worth a damn due to its price. Also sustanon makes it hard to control or maintain a constant blood concentration level, due to the fact that it has 4 different esthers each at different mgs.

I would much rather have prop, enth, cyp, or even suspension because I know exactly how often to shoot. The only way you get the full benefit from suspension is to shot EOD due to the prop in it. But then you are shooting the longer acting esthers in it too often.

So maybe your friend new more than you could understand.

Nautica

 

[Mike P.T.]

See its childish post like these that ruin the board.

me childish??? bro wasnt it you who had me on your quote just little bit ago. hahaha im flattered. must have really hit a nerve in you. your too funny

 

[Golfer18--old]

Man grow the fuck up........JESUS CHRIST. Cant you just not say anything, shit im tryin to, but you dont shut the fuck up.

 

[nautica]

Alright guys quit fighting and give us some educated opinions about the dudes question.

Nautica

 

[Golfer18--old]

First of all Sustanon is 250 mg of testosterone which is good. But what your friend may been saying is that for mg for mg sustanon is not worth a damn due to its price. Also sustanon makes it hard to control or maintain a constant blood concentration level, due to the fact that it has 4 different esthers each at different mgs.

Thats the answer you need bro.

 

[genarr3]

The guy at the gym probably bought fake gear.

 

[INSANE 1]

i have neverheard of anyone not getting results from sust. some dont benefit as much as others, but that goes withanything. h may have used fake stuff and never gave it another chance. he is showing how uneducated he is. reguardless of how he looks.

 

[nautica]

i have neverheard of anyone not getting results from sust. some dont benefit as much as others, but that goes withanything. h may have used fake stuff and never gave it another chance. he is showing how uneducated he is. reguardless of how he looks.

Bro. believe me I am not trying to flame you. But you did not hear the conversation. And I will tell you flat out. Sustanon will be the very last testosterone choosen by an experienced, educated bodybuilder. Due to the reasons stated above.

I am not saying you will not get good results but there are many, many better alternatives.

Nautica

 

[chicho1234]

You gained 25 pounds of Muscle from only 250 a week?? What do you other guys usually do>> Would 500 a week be ok?? for 9weeks of sus. only?

 

[nautica]

You gained 25 pounds of Muscle from only 250 a week?? What do you other guys usually do>> Would 500 a week be ok?? for 9weeks of sus. only?

Bro you need to do alot of research before you start a cycle. have you given any consideration to arimidex, hcg, cloming, winny, eq. or have you just heard sustanon is good because it is expensive.

What are your goals, what is you experience with as and training, what is your calorie intake and what do the calories consist of.

Nautica

 

[slingblade]

I have used several different forms of test. Enanthate, cypionate, and sustanon to be exact. I have experienced more actual weight gain from the enanthate and cypionate. But more of the gains were lost because of water retention. When using sustanon I didn't gain as much mass or weight but what I dod gain was lean mass which I kept. Just depends on your preference, blow up real fast & lose more or put on a little less, lean quality mass. Sustanon is expensive as hell though.

 

[nautica]

You are getting all of the above in sustanon. it has 4 different esthers so you are getting the fast and long. the problem is the fast runs out if you do not shoot EOD and the long esther keeps you from rebounding. You are loosing test this way.

If you lost your gains from the other test it is becaue you did not come off right.

Nautica.

 

[Purple]

You are getting all of the above in sustanon. it has 4 different esthers so you are getting the fast and long. the problem is the fast runs out if you do not shoot EOD and the long esther keeps you from rebounding. You are loosing test this way.

If you lost your gains from the other test it is becaue you did not come off right.

Nautica.

100% correct. Many experienced BB will not use sust because of the different esthers, they believe that either only prop, or cyp etc is better because you can control your dosage easier.

However it is often that due to the different esthers that other BB's use it, however they often suplement the sust shots with other prop shots.


Mg for Mg as Nautica said, Sust is more expensive. It's popularity is largely due to the hype that has been created over a period and that you can get 250mg per ml instead of the more common 100mg or 200mg.

 

[chicho1234]

Ive been in it for 3 years Ive already done 2 cycles. My next is going to be Sus250 for 9 weeks. The trainer I got it from says that I dont need clomid or noveldex unless Im taking doses in the 1000mg range, I'm only doing 1cc every 4 days!!! He said to call him if I need Noveldex!

 

[Purple]

Chicho, nobody Sust won't work at 250mg every 4 days it will definitely work.

Others however prefer to use only one or two diff types of test and not the combined 4 esthers of Suts in the relative concentrations.

With regards to the Nolva, it differres for every one some guys are lucky and others will get sides from 100 mg of test p/week depends on the individual.

 

[chicho1234]

With 250 every 4 days what can I expect to gain with good diet and sleep! Is 20 Realistic?

 

[Mr_Pincushonass]

Thanks for all the replys guys. I know its not as easy to keep a steady blood concentration level with sust as with other tests but man that guy is stupid because it sure works good for me.

 

[dissto]

NAUTICA knows his shit. to have steady levels of test on sustanon, it should be shot ED. thats right kids, ED, so you take advantage of the two prop ester that equal 90mg out of the 250. if you;re not shooting ED or at least EOD, then say goodbie to 90mg of test, so now you have 160 to play with. no thanks, i;ll shoot my enenthate for half the price.

 

[bigmac]

With 250 every 4 days what can I expect to gain with good diet and sleep! Is 20 Realistic?

WELL IM ON IT EVERY SEVEN BY ITSELF RIGHT NOW AND I PUT ON 15 LBS AND BENCH WENT FROM 370-41O. THIS SI MY FIRST CYCLE