what is the chemical difference?

[tcfracer]

Halodrol 50- 4-chloro-17a-methly-androst-1,4-diene-3b,17b-diol

Black Label Halocherry- 4-chloro-17a-methly-androst-1,4-diene-3,17b-diol (no "b" behind the "3")

So, what does the "b" stand for???

I do weight lifting and endurence sports. I used Halodrol-50 in the past with great results. Two days into Halocherry (at only 30 mg) I fell muscle craps coming on and a general fatigue when working out. Any thoughts?

 

[tcfracer]

Come on.....where are ya Needto?????

I need to know why I'm cramping on this stuff.

 

[skyling35]

It seems like it is a clerical error. What are you taking for a liver support? How much water are you taking in? Many people get shin pump and back pumps from these.

 

[OrbitNutrition.com]

Halodrol 50- 4-chloro-17a-methly-androst-1,4-diene-3b,17b-diol

Black Label Halocherry- 4-chloro-17a-methly-androst-1,4-diene-3,17b-diol (no "b" behind the "3")

So, what does the "b" stand for???

I do weight lifting and endurence sports. I used Halodrol-50 in the past with great results. Two days into Halocherry (at only 30 mg) I fell muscle craps coming on and a general fatigue when working out. Any thoughts?

its a typo.

 

[tcfracer]

It seems like it is a clerical error. What are you taking for a liver support? How much water are you taking in? Many people get shin pump and back pumps from these.

I'm very aware of hydration and don't think that was the case but I also know I could always drink more. But, two days into a cycle?? I've never had anything effect me that fast! Do you think I should cut back the dose and work my way into it?? Is this common and will my muscles adapt to where I won't feel this way? Thanks for your help!

 

[OrbitNutrition.com]

at 30mg it shouldnt be affecting you that way at all. 30mg is not a high dosage to cause fatigue or cramps yet.

 

[skyling35]

To much liver supports has had many guys feeling lethargic.

 

[tcfracer]

To much liver supports has had many guys feeling lethargic.

I have heard of this before but not my case as I hadn't started supports yet.

Thanks for all of the advise! This forum is a great source of info!

 

[dabuffguy]

the "b" stands for "beta".

Just a typo. You'll find this very common among prohormone products. Idiot companies can't even label their products properly. lol.

 

[tcfracer]

the "b" stands for "beta".

Just a typo. You'll find this very common among prohormone products. Idiot companies can't even label their products properly. lol.

I got ya! I've been lifting for years but the PH stuff is a little new. Finding this site and it's sponsors has taught me alot about what to use, when to use it and where to get it!

Thanks