What is the best SERM?

[snagglepuss]

Is nolvadex the best SERM during PCT? Would the answer change if I do a tren cycle?

 

[odoyal rulez]

some people react to different serms better than others...there is no "best" imo.

 

[snagglepuss]

some people react to different serms better than others...there is no "best" imo.

other than nolva and clomid, what else is there?

 

[odoyal rulez]

Raloxifene, lasofoxifene, toremifene, bazedoxifene, etc..

 

[snagglepuss]

Raloxifene, lasofoxifene, toremifene, bazedoxifene, etc..

Thanks. can you recommend sites with reliable information about these? I will do a google search, but its heard to know what is reliable and what isn't

 

[odoyal rulez]

try wiki...i know eli lilly maxes the Raoxifene though.

 

[snagglepuss]

try wiki...i know eli lilly maxes the Raoxifene though.

Thanks -- informative, but they don't say much about efficacy of those substances as part of of post-cycle therapy, though

 

[odoyal rulez]

I used clomid....it worked, no sides at all on 50mg a day...except an annoying boner if the wind blew the wrong direction...

 

[needtogetaas]

other than nolva and clomid, what else is there?

for pct.........dermacrin http://www.primordialperformance.com/

 

[georgie24]

NOLVADEX!!!!!!!!!!

try to get tablets as i didnt get saved from gyno using liquid version

nolva is the shit.

 

[njmuscleguy]

the most tried and true are nolva and clomid, however, it comes down to personal preference.... particularly, which sides one is willing to tolerate.... nolva didn't work for me at all and it killed my libido.... clomid worked a little better, but it has its sides (emotions get all whacky, floaters, cramping, etc)

 

[Nelson Montana]

the most tried and true are nolva and clomid, however, it comes down to personal preference.... particularly, which sides one is willing to tolerate.... nolva didn't work for me at all and it killed my libido.... clomid worked a little better, but it has its sides (emotions get all whacky, floaters, cramping, etc)

Agreed. And I know most people don't think of a-dex as a recovery drug but it works very well in that regard. HCG, a-dex and natural supps are the way to go IMO. Nolva and Clomid are, in many instances, not particually benificial.

 

[needtogetaas]

Agreed. And I know most people don't think of a-dex as a recovery drug but it works very well in that regard. HCG, a-dex and natural supps are the way to go IMO. Nolva and Clomid are, in many instances, not particually benificial.

good post.

 

[georgie24]

nelson-

sorry for the threadjack!

why am i allergic to clomid???? i get the hives, red face and my throat closed up while i sleep

 

[needtogetaas]

nelson-

sorry for the threadjack!

why am i allergic to clomid???? i get the hives, red face and my throat closed up while i sleep

your throat closed up.shit that must have bin scary

 

[Nelson Montana]

nelson-

sorry for the threadjack!

why am i allergic to clomid???? i get the hives, red face and my throat closed up while i sleep

Could be an allergy -- could be a hormonal reaction. Hard to say. Keep it simple. If something is messing you up -- stop doing it.

 

[georgie24]

yes im officialy done with it..

hate waking up 2-3 times a night fighting for my breath

scary shit!

 

[snagglepuss]

Agreed. And I know most people don't think of a-dex as a recovery drug but it works very well in that regard. HCG, a-dex and natural supps are the way to go IMO. Nolva and Clomid are, in many instances, not particually benificial.

What natural supps do you recommend?

Thanks

 

[needtogetaas]

yes im officialy done with it..

hate waking up 2-3 times a night fighting for my breath

scary shit!

I would think so if I got up in the middle of the night and was fighting to breath I
would be scared to hell.thats one scary thing when you cant breath and cant do any thing about it.so what do you use now for pct if not clomid.

 

[jamesG]

I used clomid....it worked, no sides at all on 50mg a day...except an annoying boner if the wind blew the wrong direction...

good old clomid.

 

[Nelson Montana]

What natural supps do you recommend?

Thanks

This is touchy because I don't want it to be battle over whose stuff is superior (ala' the AF attitude). I designed something called Post Cycle which contains 3 anti-e's, liver detox (similar to Tylers) and herbs for libido and ED. As mentioned, Dermicrine is good as is other stuff. Everyone prefers one or the other. I would avoid prohormone type anti-e's though. (suicide inhibitors) Do a search on the incredients and see what appeals to you.

 

[snagglepuss]

This is touchy because I don't want it to be battle over whose stuff is superior (ala' the AF attitude). I designed something called Post Cycle which contains 3 anti-e's, liver detox (similar to Tylers) and herbs for libido and ED. As mentioned, Dermicrine is good as is other stuff. Everyone prefers one or the other. I would avoid prohormone type anti-e's though. (suicide inhibitors) Do a search on the incredients and see what appeals to you.

Thanks again.

 

[Mr. Matt]

Toremifene is getting alot of praise lately and is supposedly stronger than nolva or chlomid. I plan on using it very soon.