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What is Test Flu?

Smokescreen

Smokescreen

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Is it really nothing more than just dirty nasty ass contaminated Test? Or is there a reason for this so called..."test flu"?

Funny how I don't seem to get it with HG or good quality Test Prop but I do get it with UG lab Test Prop. Weird huh?

Funny how I don't get it with large amounts of Test C or E neither.


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Bro I don't think it has nothing to do with contaminated or dirty gear at all. It has to do with your body fighting off compounds it's not use to. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. That's just my opinion.
 
In my case i had nasty test flu 24 hours after each test prop shot and the only thing that kept me going was advil. I baked my gear mid cycle to get rid of exessive amount of BA in the solution and that made things much better. I never used that brand again and never had test flu since.
To bake you preheat oven to 180 celsius put a pin throgh the top of the vial making sure the tip does not get submerged in oul and put the vial in the oven for 20 or so min. A lot of BA will evaporate through the pin. Bam - No test flu
Worked for me.
 
What compounds? My body doesn't know what test is?! Come on.

And it just so happens to produce a fever with UG test prop but not HG test prop?

And it doesn't happen with high dosages of Cyp or Enth???

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For 40 mins? Or 20mins?

Doesn't this high temperature just degrade to fuck out of your Test?

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stolen but easier than typing it out--test flu is a natural defense mechanism - to the sudden increase in exogenous hormone levels. Its the body's way of trying to "flush" out the foreign entity it perceives is there (just as it does w/ a flu virus). There has also been some connection between high BA content and immune response. think the combination of sudden increased hormone levels and a foreign substance being injected into the muscle can cause these symptoms. Some people are sensitive, some arent. Certain people don’t experience it at all and some might just get mild chills (low grade fever) or a runny nose for a few days and not even take much note of it.

etiocholanolone represents only about 20% of the metabolites of testosterone in people. Maybe folks who experience this reaction to testosteone have particularly high levels of 17 beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, the enzyme that converts testosterone into etiocholanolone. Or an isoform of the enzyme that makes the conversion more efficient.

Etiocholanolone is believed to produce fever and flu-like aches and pains because it induces the systemic release of Interleukin-1, a powerful proinflammatory cytokine.

Etiocholanolone is the 5-beta-reduced isomer of androsterone. Etiocholanolone is a major metabolite of testosterone and androstenedione in many mammalian species including humans. It is excreted in the urine and is androgenically inactive. Classified a ketosteroid, it causes fever (it is a pyrogen), immunostimulation and leukocytosis. The pyrogenic effect of Etiocholanolone has been shown to be due to the release of interleukin-1 (IL-1) from the leukocytes that are mobilized in response to its production or injection. Etiocholanolone has anticonvulsant activity and may be an endogenous modulator of seizure susceptibility. Significantly increased values of etiocholanolone (along with testoterone and androsterone) an be detected in the urine of men with androgenic alopecia (male pattern baldness).

HMDB: Showing Etiocholanolone (HMDB00490)
 
Still not buying it.

Again...why this flu doesn't happen to me with good quality test prop?

Or

with Cyp or Enth?
 
joh said:
In my case i had nasty test flu 24 hours after each test prop shot and the only thing that kept me going was advil. I baked my gear mid cycle to get rid of exessive amount of BA in the solution and that made things much better. I never used that brand again and never had test flu since.
To bake you preheat oven to 180 celsius put a pin throgh the top of the vial making sure the tip does not get submerged in oul and put the vial in the oven for 20 or so min. A lot of BA will evaporate through the pin. Bam - No test flu
Worked for me.
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no BA means you have a vial that is a perfect medium for bacteria growth.
 
Smokescreen said:
So "baking" it is NOT a good idea then?
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the only time you should really heat test is if it's crashed and you are trying to reconstitute it--but still not to the point that causes BA to completely evaporate (you still vent it and heat it but at a much lower temp (even a hair dryer can/not always "uncrash" gear)
 
eddymerckx said:
no BA means you have a vial that is a perfect medium for bacteria growth.
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Instead of baking I heard adding some grape seed oil does the trick by diluting it. Is this true or false eddy? I've never had test flue or what I felt was too much BA in my test so I'm not to keen with a solution but it still would be nice to know and could possibly help the op.
 
eddymerckx said:
the only time you should really heat test is if it's crashed and you are trying to reconstitute it--but still not to the point that causes BA to completely evaporate (you still vent it and heat it but at a much lower temp (even a hair dryer can/not always "uncrash" gear)
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Great! So I pretty much bought dirty ass Test Prop because my stupid ass decided to get this UG private labs Test Prop.

Into the trash it goes.
 
Smokescreen said:
What compounds? My body doesn't know what test is?! Come on.

And it just so happens to produce a fever with UG test prop but not HG test prop?

And it doesn't happen with high dosages of Cyp or Enth???

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Your body is used to test yes. But not used to test in your ass cheek or leg that was put there with an inch and half long needle no. And maybe the time you used HG test prop, was just one of those times it didn't happen. I dk man. I'm no vet or expert, that's just my .02
 
I trashed it today. Fuck that! I'm in this to look good and feel good. Not look good and feel like total ass! Doesn't make sense to me. Enough! Gone it is.
 
test flu is just a side effect of test....does not men your test is bad. Not sure if you know but your immunity to sickness is lowered when juicing
 
the_alcatraz said:
test flu is just a side effect of test....does not men your test is bad. Not sure if you know but your immunity to sickness is lowered when juicing
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Like I asked before....then why doesn't this happen to me when I take Cyp or Enth? Even in HIGH dosages.

Or...

Why doesn't this happen to me when I take HG Test prop?
 
I got test flu from 500mg per week enanthate by XXX - 3 cycles, 3 diff brands of test e, same flu symptoms every single time! Still, once i begin to feel better I am gladly reassured that the test is real and will work!

Feel like cr*p right now as we speak!
 
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Smokescreen said:
I trashed it today. Fuck that! I'm in this to look good and feel good. Not look good and feel like total ass! Doesn't make sense to me. Enough! Gone it is.
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I say smart move, if it is making you sick or feel like shit then it isnt worth it. Try again from a different source and see what happens. I would think your body know test when it sees it and that the flu symptoms are coming from cheap ass ingredients/oils or god knows whatever they could put in it.
 
read what eddy wrote above.

now read what I now write so you understand. when the body thinks its under attack is has mechanisms that it sends out. this includes adjust body temperature (known as a fever), increasing mucous production (runny nose, sore throat), etc etc. when you inject that foreign stuff into your body once again your body thinks its under attack when it really isn't.. just like how people get allergies. same thing.

if you want me to use simple terms basically what you are injecting your body is allergic to and assumes its being attacked so it sends out a response. its never a virus that makes you sick, its your OWN BODY that makes you feel sick. this is why people who reduce fevers are actually prolonging their problem, you are getting in the way of the bodies defense mechanisms and its ability to fight your virus or flush that virus away. now you can boost your own immune system to help out by taking colloidial silver, this works everytime. (of course this has nothing to do with your question but thought I would throw it in since we are on the subject, don't mean to confuse you)

and in my experience AAS will boost your immune system, i've never been sick on cycle.. I'm like a bull on cycle no matter what i run. when i come off is when i get sick some of the time.
 
stevesmi said:
read what eddy wrote above.

now read what I now write so you understand. when the body thinks its under attack is has mechanisms that it sends out. this includes adjust body temperature (known as a fever), increasing mucous production (runny nose, sore throat), etc etc. when you inject that foreign stuff into your body once again your body thinks its under attack when it really isn't.. just like how people get allergies. same thing.

if you want me to use simple terms basically what you are injecting your body is allergic to and assumes its being attacked so it sends out a response. its never a virus that makes you sick, its your OWN BODY that makes you feel sick. this is why people who reduce fevers are actually prolonging their problem, you are getting in the way of the bodies defense mechanisms and its ability to fight your virus or flush that virus away. now you can boost your own immune system to help out by taking colloidial silver, this works everytime. (of course this has nothing to do with your question but thought I would throw it in since we are on the subject, don't mean to confuse you)

and in my experience AAS will boost your immune system, i've never been sick on cycle.. I'm like a bull on cycle no matter what i run. when i come off is when i get sick some of the time.
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Great post and explanation here by Steve. Our bodies do not like foreign substances in its bloodstream, and therefore will try to prepare itself by fighting off everything unknown causing the sickness.
 
stevesmi said:
read what eddy wrote above.

now read what I now write so you understand. when the body thinks its under attack is has mechanisms that it sends out. this includes adjust body temperature (known as a fever), increasing mucous production (runny nose, sore throat), etc etc. when you inject that foreign stuff into your body once again your body thinks its under attack when it really isn't.. just like how people get allergies. same thing.

if you want me to use simple terms basically what you are injecting your body is allergic to and assumes its being attacked so it sends out a response. its never a virus that makes you sick, its your OWN BODY that makes you feel sick. this is why people who reduce fevers are actually prolonging their problem, you are getting in the way of the bodies defense mechanisms and its ability to fight your virus or flush that virus away. now you can boost your own immune system to help out by taking colloidial silver, this works everytime. (of course this has nothing to do with your question but thought I would throw it in since we are on the subject, don't mean to confuse you)

and in my experience AAS will boost your immune system, i've never been sick on cycle.. I'm like a bull on cycle no matter what i run. when i come off is when i get sick some of the time.
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Still don't get it why when I inject a massive shot of Test Cyp or Enth into my glute I feel fine. In fact I feel great! Or when I inject HG Test prop...I still feel fine. Yet I take this UG labs Test Prop and feel like total poopoo. LOL Oh well. Don't matter...I trashed that shit.

And about Test bullding up immunity. I too believe so as well. I'm way less sick when my test levels are up. When my test is low I tend to get sick easily.

Not sure if any of you know who Jason Ellis is. He is a radio jockey on Sirius radio. For many months he kept complaining about how tired he was. And how sick and how "often" he would be sick. I called the radio show and suggested to him that he might be low on testosterone. He took my advice and went and got blood work. Low and behold he was low on testosterone. He was put on Test Enth and now he has stopped getting sick all the time. :-)
 
Hey guys, I'm 3 weeks into a cycle of test cyp and have started experiencing these flu like symptoms which I'm assuming is this test flu (my 1st cycle @ 500 per week) . Is it still ok to train or should I wait until it passes?
 
W8rr10r said:
Hey guys, I'm 3 weeks into a cycle of test cyp and have started experiencing these flu like symptoms which I'm assuming is this test flu (my 1st cycle @ 500 per week) . Is it still ok to train or should I wait until it passes?
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Push through it and train.
 
JoJo1980 said:
Push through it and train.
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Bro...really? Thats really stupid advice. How old are you?

Bro...don't listen to this guy. A fever is not good. You get fevers, your shit is dirty. Simple as that. Stop using it and get yourself some clean test.

I now use clean high quality test prop and feel wonderful. No test flu. Or should I say....dirty test flu. Because what it really is.

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27 yrs old. Trained all natural for the past 8 years now, tried PHs a few years ago and have decided to take the plunge into AAS's to break through a plateau. Not really experiencing a fever, just runny nose, cough and stuffy head but body generally feels fine. Test is clean, very reputable source. Not sure if I can name brands?
 
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Smokescreen said:
Bro...really? Thats really stupid advice. How old are you?

Bro...don't listen to this guy. A fever is not good. You get fevers, your shit is dirty. Simple as that. Stop using it and get yourself some clean test.

I now use clean high quality test prop and feel wonderful. No test flu. Or should I say....dirty test flu. Because what it really is.

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Smokescreen, what u wrote and the advice ur giving frustrated me.

I personally do not use prop at all anymore bc of flu and pain, tried my own and 5 diff brands all te same.

It doesn't mean it's dirty and it doesn't mean it's bad it's how ur body responds,. With one brand that was the worst for me I injected 3 mls in my buddy who volunteered and he was 100 percent fine the next days, so I traded the rest of mine for some cyp he had.

Throwing it out is a waste just my two cents.

Know ur own body and if it makes it so u can't train then obv u can't get good gains....

Just chalk it up to not using compounds with prop esters: if u have to use them inject Ed at a very small amount to keep it to a minimum
 
joedel said:
Smokescreen, what u wrote and the advice ur giving frustrated me.

I personally do not use prop at all anymore bc of flu and pain, tried my own and 5 diff brands all te same.

It doesn't mean it's dirty and it doesn't mean it's bad it's how ur body responds,. With one brand that was the worst for me I injected 3 mls in my buddy who volunteered and he was 100 percent fine the next days, so I traded the rest of mine for some cyp he had.

Throwing it out is a waste just my two cents.

Know ur own body and if it makes it so u can't train then obv u can't get good gains....

Just chalk it up to not using compounds with prop esters: if u have to use them inject Ed at a very small amount to keep it to a minimum
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Frustrated?! LOL! Wow! What steroids are you on? Their effecting your neurotransmitters SEVERELY. Come off the steroids. Frustrated....*rolleyes*

I'm now test prop from a compounding pharmacy. I "have" taken up to 150mgs EOD. I received no test flu whatsoever from this test prop that came from a pharmacy.
 
It makes no sense to trash gear just because you get flu like symptioms ,the best thing to do is to take lots of vitamins and train thru it eventually the body will adjust in a short time.
 
Seems like everyone reacts different. I had flu symptoms for 5 days after starting my pharma grade test e. pushed thru it and it's all good now. Doesn't mean all test e is bad or that it will make everyone get test flu
 
The first time I tried Test Prop, I had test-flu that laid my ass out on the couch for like 3 days, and visiting the toilet every 5 minutes. I could barely move. This was at 100mg/EOD. But, once it went away, the shit was amazing, but I discontinued use because I didn't want to atrophy my balls too badly. Since then, I have tried different home-brewed and other UG brands, not a one of them has given me test-flu, and not a one of them has shown me very good results either, and these were well-known and highly recommended brands. Each one I gave a 2-week run. To be honest, Test Prop makes me feel like shit. I feel much better on Primobolan.
 
It's our body auto-immune response to a foreign substance in our body. Once your body accepts and adapts no biggy. Happens to me for about 24hrs.
 
Im getting test flu right now and right on schedule, about 2 weeks into cycle for a couple days. Sore throat, feverish, some night sweating, just feel like shit but its all good since its because of the gear
 
On my first ever cycle some 16 years ago, I was pinning Testosterone propionate every three days. It was pharmacy grade sauce and I developed a strange sort of cold - not a full blown heavy cold - but constant runny nose and tickly throat.
I had it for about two weeks and then it cleared.

I'm only guessing, but because propionate is fast acting, could it be that the body's immune system is a bit shocked and over reacts. Rather than versus medium and long esters whereby the effect on the AIS is more subtle?
Seems strange how people are affected by the proionate more than others.
 
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