What is best for explosive power?

[slobberknocker]

Well I'm done since this is starting to deteriorate into name calling. I'm an athlete not a debator. Maybe when this gets moved to the training forum, spatts, IronLion, and CoolColJ will have something to add. Peace.

 

[mtex1]

this thresds been hi-jacked

 

[stonecold54]

yeah I am done too. it was fun. I liked it. I just like to make people think about things. to many times on this board people spout off things with no reasons or faulty logic. and I am not a zen master that would be worse than having a degree.

 

[DaddyX]

yeah I am done too. it was fun. I liked it. I just like to make people think about things. to many times on this board people spout off things with no reasons or faulty logic. and I am not a zen master that would be worse than having a degree.

i just want to really know one thing. why dont you smoke weed ? j/k peace

 

[stonecold54]

weed would make me cloudy I need to be sharp to stay on top of you boys, with all your degrees and such it is hard.

 

[Dr. M]

now tell me what movement will achieve more strength. and besides that which movement will not hurt the athlete. what point is there at explosive lifting when you are guaranting yourself an injury.

The deads will add more back strength. Doing PC's without deads at some point in your other weekly lifts is like wiping your ass before you shit.

Neither the PC's or the deads will hurt the athlete, if done correctly.

If all you think PC's are is flinging the weight upwards, you're one of thousands who doesn't realize the benefits of proper cleans because they've never done proper cleans.

-M

 

[princeton]

Olympic lifts are NOt the best lift for sports! YOu must work your posterior chain group of muscles. Hamstring, glutes, spinal erectors ect... Dead lifts, good mornings and glute ham raises will make you the fastest. Go do some research on louie Simmons and Dave tate from West side barbell with what they've come up with.

 

[kiloamp]

Olympic lifts are NOt the best lift for sports! YOu must work your posterior chain group of muscles. Hamstring, glutes, spinal erectors ect... Dead lifts, good mornings and glute ham raises will make you the fastest. Go do some research on louie Simmons and Dave tate from West side barbell with what they've come up with.

Well the Soviets felt otherwise and the football programs of Nebraska, Virginia Tech, Iowa State, Washington State, Ohio, Miama etc. etc. agree.

 

[Dr. M]

Deads, good mornings, squats (split, box, hack, front), torso twists and medicine ball work...

... all of this is excellent for building strength.

But to really learn how to properly explode your hips during contact, for my purposes I found PC's and HC's to be unparalleled. Took months of training, video analysis, stepwise practice with the bar, etc. to learn to do them PROPERLY... but when I did, it was a whole new world.

-M

 

[Dr. M]

Incidentally, so I'm not misunderstood, the deads, g'mornings, squats, twists and meds, etc. were ALL part of the other portions of the weekly routine.

-M