What does it mean when you get incredible DOMS??

[psychedout]

I find that I am not too sure the day after a workout, but the day after I am murdered. Does this mean anything???


(BTW for those who don't know DOMS = delayed onset of muscle soreness)

 

[argent]

2 days after is when DOMSis most painful after an intense workout. It means you didn't fuck up the workout.

 

[wtlftr]

no shit. DOMS, done on moderate strength. I thought you got sore.

 

[landser]

The more intense DOMS the better?

Good. Because I did 14 sets on my chest yesterday and it hurting like a mofo.

 

[psychedout]

Its my chest thats killing me right now too.

 

[landser]

Psyched-whats your chest routine?

 

[gonelifting]

Not sure about this one. Don`t know much about it so I won`t get into a debate BUT I KNOW MY BODY and it`s not always because of a good workout.

I think it ahas A LOT to do with stretching the muscle rather than getting a good workout or not. Why do you get really sore triceps after doing overhead dumbell extensions and not sore biceps when doing dumbell curls, even if you used the same intensity with both? It`s because of the extreme stretch.

I`ve found over the years that #1 you don`t need to be sore to grow AND #2 being sore does`nt neccessarily mean you had a good workout, you may have just stretched the muscle.

Anyone agree with this?

 

[landser]

I can agree with that, but its much more satisfying when you ache.

 

[gonelifting]

I can agree with that, but its much more satisfying when you ache.

Yeah I love the fullness feeling of the muscle that`s sore. lol

 

[landser]

Same here. I like to hit my chest real hard, wait a couple days when its just a bit sore still, hit my shoulders real hard and have my entire upper body ache.

 

[Moderate_THIS]

DOMS from kegel exercises is by far the worst

 

[landser]

What kegel?

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

DOMS from kegel exercises is by far the worst

hell yeah. that shit is wild painful

 

[psychedout]

Psyched-whats your chest routine?

Pretty basic at the moment.

Flat barbell Bench
Incline dumbell press
Flyes (Flat or incline depending)

Sometimes I through in some dips or cablecrossovers at the end.

 

[psychedout]

I agree that soreness isn't necesarily a good gauge for a good workout.

But for the most part, when I'm adding pounds each week, and making my muscles work harder, im gonna be sore.

 

[gonelifting]

Flat barbell Bench
Incline dumbell press
Flyes (Flat or incline depending)

Back to my theory...

If you did this workout you would surely get sore, but if you did ONLY the cable crossovers with an extreme stretch, you would STILL be very sore. Does that mean you worked the chest the same or MORE with just the crossovers? No way. That tells me soreness is not a good indicator.

 

[psychedout]

Yup good point. I think soreness comes mostly from the flyes for me.

 

[Lift Chief]

A lof of soreness comes from the muscle and tendons being strained from say too wide of a grip on bench press or some such thing.

You don't need to get sore AT ALL to have a good workout.

 

[psychedout]

I just thought of a something interesting.


Lets say you take your shoulders for example. There are pretty much no movements for stretching the shoulders. Hence they are never sore (mine aren't, and im sure most are the same).

Yet most people shoulders still gain size!

Gonelifiting -- your theory is right.

 

[SoreArms]

So if I workout today, but I don't feel it until 2 days later, then thats good?

I've been having this happen to me for a while now, I was begining to worry it was the other way around.

Cool

 

[hardrock]

my legs always hurt the most 2 days after. Chest hurts teh end of the next day and the 2nd the same.

 

[WalkingBeast]

I just thought of a something interesting.


Lets say you take your shoulders for example. There are pretty much no movements for stretching the shoulders. Hence they are never sore (mine aren't, and im sure most are the same).

Yet most people shoulders still gain size!

Gonelifiting -- your theory is right.

My front delts always get sore. Side delts much less.

 

[landser]

Do side Dumbell lateral raises for your shoulders, and you will feel it.

Here is my chest routine, I added a bit to it as I was unsatisfied.

Bench press 4sets
DB incline press 3sets
DB incline flyes 3 sets
Db chest press 2 sets
Db flyes 2 sets

All sets to failure.

 

[Smurfy]

My front delts always get sore. Side delts much less.

samehere. also, when i do shoulders, my traps get mad sore everytime. i dont even do any direct trap work.

 

[landser]

What are you guys doing for your shoulders?

I do 4-5 sets standing BB mil press
4-5 sets DB side raises
3-4 sets CB seated reverse mil press

 

[Smurfy]

What are you guys doing for your shoulders?

I do 4-5 sets standing BB mil press
4-5 sets DB side raises
3-4 sets CB seated reverse mil press

i know you said "guys" and Im a girl, but Ill respond anyway hehe

Standing BB Strict presses
Push Presses
DB lateral raises (or with cables)
DB cleans
upright rows or BB cleans

my traps take a beating after this LOL

 

[gonelifting]

i know you said "guys" and Im a girl, but Ill respond anyway hehe

Standing BB Strict presses
Push Presses
DB lateral raises (or with cables)
DB cleans
upright rows or BB cleans

my traps take a beating after this LOL

Your last 3 exercises directly or indirectly work the traps. Not that it`s a bad thing... but that`s why they`re sore.

 

[PHATchik]

I can agree with that, but its much more satisfying when you ache.

Definitely.

 

[WalkingBeast]

samehere. also, when i do shoulders, my traps get mad sore everytime. i dont even do any direct trap work.

I used to do direct trap work alot and traps were the first thing to grow on me. Now I get enough work from deadlifts. My shoulders get sore just from all the bench pressing I do. Incline bench (11 sets) Speed bench (10 sets) Flat bench (11 sets) Rack lockouts (5 sets), split up into two days and most sets to failure, aside from the speed bench. Havent done shoulder presses in a long time. Ill still do lateral raises once a week though and rear delts.

 

[landser]

What is your chest workout bro? Do you do all those benches in one session?

 

[PIGEON-RAT]

Not sure about this one. Don`t know much about it so I won`t get into a debate BUT I KNOW MY BODY and it`s not always because of a good workout.

I think it ahas A LOT to do with stretching the muscle rather than getting a good workout or not. Why do you get really sore triceps after doing overhead dumbell extensions and not sore biceps when doing dumbell curls, even if you used the same intensity with both? It`s because of the extreme stretch.

I`ve found over the years that #1 you don`t need to be sore to grow AND #2 being sore does`nt neccessarily mean you had a good workout, you may have just stretched the muscle.

Anyone agree with this?

i dunno bor. i do DC training, so i always do the extreme stretches, and i find that i'm a lot more sore if i don't do the stretching.

I just thought of a something interesting.


Lets say you take your shoulders for example. There are pretty much no movements for stretching the shoulders. Hence they are never sore (mine aren't, and im sure most are the same).

Yet most people shoulders still gain size!

Gonelifiting -- your theory is right.

my shoulders often get sore, but not as sore as other body parts. and personally i think it's partly because they're hard to stretch.

i probably notice shoulder soreness more than most people because it interferes with my guitar playing.



the most unpleasant soreness for me is in my traps, quads, hams, and calves. any other soreness feels good but traps and calves bother me the most because they're so unpleasant. and i don't do anything for traps other than deads and rack deads.

 

[gonelifting]

i dunno bor. i do DC training, so i always do the extreme stretches, and i find that i'm a lot more sore if i don't do the stretching.


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You have a point there...

Maybe the stretching I`m talking about is from stretching while under a loard as in lowering the weight doing an overhead dumbel extension. I know in DC you do that as well to a degree with chest stretches (I think) but I`m thinking the DC stretch is with the mucle relaxed instead of tensed and "fighting" the negative of a normal rep. Just guessing at this point.

 

[WalkingBeast]

What is your chest workout bro? Do you do all those benches in one session?

No. Ill do flat bench (11 sets) and followed by rack lockouts on thursday for example, and then incline bench (11 sets) followed by speed bench on sunday. So a 2 day split. All the details are in my training journal, but youll have to go back a few months, since Ive been injured.