What do you do? Oly Squats or PL Squats?

[Lord_Suston]

my opinion oly full squat is better for quad growth and functional strength.

I agree they are better for quads, but functional strength... I question that, top choices would be box squat Front squat or P'lifter squats

Oly Squat 365 for 2x6 mid workout, RAW
P'lifter squat 455 2x5- Belt only past parallel

 

[super_rice]

what about in terms of injury prevention for other sports?
any ideas?

 

[bignate73]

i primarily squat with a low bar, med PL stance. i throw in high bar OLY squats to keep things well rounded.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

i squat therefore ...I am

 

[Lord_Suston]

what about in terms of injury prevention for other sports?
any ideas?

Well, P'lifter squats put less stress on the knee and more on the hips, so if you need to strengthen your hips the they help. I really don't think weight training helps prevent to many injuries as compared to plyometrics and conditioning

 

[coolcolj]

Olys squats are much harder than powersquats IMO. Powersquats are done to move the most amount of weight. Just like powerlifter deadlifts can move more weight than oly deadlifts

full depth of olys squats works the VMO, so they're good for that
if they're strong then your knees will be fine
If your strong in the stretch range, then you be strong above that. The reverse isn't true.

then add in some force absorbtion work like Reactive squats and altitude drops etc to increase your ability to take in force. If you can't absorb the force with your muscles, then the tendons/joints take brunt --> injury, shin splints etc

most people who have knee problems, either train too often, have muscle and firing imbalances or all the above

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

I wouldn't say olympic squats are harder. I've done both and although it's difficult at the bottom range of an olympic style squat, it feels too light for me at the top, whereas with a low bar, medium pl style squat it feels heavy all the way and I take mine too legit parallel. Plus, you can use more weight with pl style squats and that right there doesn't make them any easier than a lighter weight full squat imo.

Different strokes for different folks. If you want pure quad developement then I'd go with full squats, but if you want pure strength I'd go with pl style.

As for those that say parallel or slightly under doesn't build the hams and glutes as much, that's just bunk. A pl squat you sit back and down which automatically brings the glutes and ham's into the movement alot. Olympic squats go straight down basically and stress the hams and glutes when powering out of the hole, but imo less than pl style because with a pl style the tension is maintained on the glutes and hams more I think.

 

[coolcolj]

Weight doesn't mean anything, its just a function of leverage, and ROM

anyone can 1/4 squat and bench lockout a lot of weight, doesn't mean it will do crap

I'm speaking from an athlete point of view, and I say go for fullsquats, supplemented with reactive squats which go down to parallel anyway.
Strict fullsquats will increase the strnegth of a lot of other lifts, but not much else transfers over to fullsquats

when in doubt go for the hardest longest ROM version of any exercise, where you will use less weight. That's my motto, but I don't have an ego

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

LOL.

A heavy PL squat will transfer over to a full squat. A full squat will not transfer over to a heavier pl squat. I thin Louie Simmons said this.

And there is a big difference between thigh crease at parallel which is slightly below parallel when viewed at the thigh and a 1/4 squat.

Weight doesn't mean anything, its just a function of leverage, and ROM

Well that was dumb. Do I even have to say why? You say it doesn't mean anything? Leverage and range of motion? Sure they play a role in lifting, but if I bench 500 and you bench 300 then I'm stronger regardless of ROM and leverage differences.

when in doubt go for the hardest longest ROM version of any exercise. That''s my motto, but I don't have an ego.

Well you obviously have an ego thinking full squats are the king bee of squats and that your way is the best way lol.

Do I need to point anythign else out?

 

[b fold the truth]

LOL.

A heavy PL squat will transfer over to a full squat. A full squat will not transfer over to a heavier pl squat. I thin Louie Simmons said this.

And there is a big difference between thigh crease at parallel which is slightly below parallel when viewed at the thigh and a 1/4 squat.

I haven't done an OLY squat in years...till Wednesday. After box squats, deads, and front squats...I took 502 OLY style in the hole, paused it, and came back up pretty easily. I don't think that training OLY style would give me a good strong Power squat by any means though...it hasn't in the past. The opposite, as you have pointed out, seems to be true though.

When in doubt...do all of them.

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