Only time I ever started getting it was when I shot 100mg of test suspension into my pecs. Nips got pretty damn puffy a day or two later. Hit 60mg nolva, then 40mg day 2-3, 20mg/day for a week, all gone. Nothing else ever gave me a hint of gyno, not 1g/week of test with no anti-e's, not 100mg/day of drol/dbol, nothing but pec injects of test base. Never doing that again.