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[ironhorse242]

So I go to the doctor for a yearly exam and he tells me that I have a high muscle enzime count. So I say what the fuck does that mean. He does another blood test and every thing else is normal. So he asks me if I am doing steriods and I told him I have. he starts going off on me telling me that I am going to die and blah blah blah. But every other test came back fine. Has anyone ever had this issue with thier muscle count. By the way this jackass tells me I am 35lbs over weight according to a chart from 1950!

 

[swordfish151]

So I go to the doctor for a yearly exam and he tells me that I have a high muscle enzime count. So I say what the fuck does that mean. He does another blood test and every thing else is normal. So he asks me if I am doing steriods and I told him I have. he starts going off on me telling me that I am going to die and blah blah blah. But every other test came back fine. Has anyone ever had this issue with thier muscle count. By the way this jackass tells me I am 35lbs over weight according to a chart from 1950![/QUOTE

well im glad your all good ironhorse..fuck the rest..shit if all came back great then your all good....why did he just call you a fat a** lol!! some people just dont understand the notion that muscle weighs more then fat...lol...but good to hear your good.

 

[Lowest]

He probably means CK levels, those get elevated from "severe muscle damage", which is what we inflict upon ourselves every time we hit the gym. Lol, my dad's an MD, he thought my levels were bad too until he realized that simple weight-lifting was the cause. If it's another enzyme, then it might be something different but this is probably it. Do you remember the specific name of the enzyme by any chance?

 

[Triple J]

find a different doc

 

[solidspine]

So I go to the doctor for a yearly exam and he tells me that I have a high muscle enzime count. So I say what the fuck does that mean. He does another blood test and every thing else is normal. So he asks me if I am doing steriods and I told him I have. he starts going off on me telling me that I am going to die and blah blah blah. But every other test came back fine. Has anyone ever had this issue with thier muscle count. By the way this jackass tells me I am 35lbs over weight according to a chart from 1950!

Switch MD's the guy sounds stupid or he is simply jealous, because your in great shape.

 

[Maxmuscle31]

i went for a check up 2 months ago, the doctor told me that i am grossly overweight he said I should weigh 190llbs I am currently 5 eleven and weigh 250lbs my body fat is only around 12or 13 % these doctors are not used to seeing us muscle heads in their office so fuck em. Stay huge!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[fugetaboutit]

find a different doc

EXACTLY.

 

[donsj]

These "normal" values for blood work were not taken from athletes. When a doc sees a supernormal value he thinks something is "wrong" does not occurr that he is seeing a super normal value for a super athlete. Runners in the 70's freaked out doctors the same way till they got up to speed.

 

[testbaby25]

Most docs that Ive been to also chart you as being over weight on the body mass index. My doctor took out probably the same stupid chart and told me my index was way too high, even though i am in good shape. Sometimes it seems like theres no arguing or convincing these people.

 

[Makavelli]

I'm lucky. My doc is a sports med doc and sits on the IOC doping committee! I go in there and discuss AAS cycles. We go back and forth with different ideas, then he draws my blood and I'm done. Perfect. He also told me to increase my tren dosage and run it longer. I love the guy!!! Another great thing, when my T levels come back a little low he circles it in a big red pen and writes "low" above it! He's not happy til my natural levels are at 1000! Gotta love an intelligent doc.

 

[Stacemranger]

Most docs that Ive been to also chart you as being over weight on the body mass index. My doctor took out probably the same stupid chart and told me my index was way too high, even though i am in good shape. Sometimes it seems like theres no arguing or convincing these people.

Haha, my doc did the same shit. Told me I was very overweight. My BMI was 29 I beleive and he said I was almost to the extreme obesity section.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

He probably means CK levels, those get elevated from "severe muscle damage", which is what we inflict upon ourselves every time we hit the gym. Lol, my dad's an MD, he thought my levels were bad too until he realized that simple weight-lifting was the cause.

these will be high in drug free atheletes as well. though agree this is the most likely case.

 

[tical]

I'm lucky. My doc is a sports med doc and sits on the IOC doping committee! I go in there and discuss AAS cycles. We go back and forth with different ideas, then he draws my blood and I'm done. Perfect. He also told me to increase my tren dosage and run it longer. I love the guy!!! Another great thing, when my T levels come back a little low he circles it in a big red pen and writes "low" above it! He's not happy til my natural levels are at 1000! Gotta love an intelligent doc.

awesome!

 

[terrapin]

Just a note: Muscle is better than fat, but extra weight puts strain on the heart - thats what the docs are concerned with. Yes, the BMI is bullshit, but next time ask WHY he thinks your over weight - guaranteed he will talk about long term strain on your heart. Steroids can get us past our genetic potential when in comes to muscle size/strength - but does nothing to compensate for the genetic limitations of such things as your heart. Just a cautionary note.

 

[LVTitan]

my doc a dick too time for a new one. i went to have blood work last week and told him i wanted prolactin/progesterone levels checked as well as others and he's like 'if you're not growing tits you dont need them checked" i said i wanted them checked anyway and when we figured aas, he went thru the whole "promise me you will not do it again thing" ... time for a new one.

 

[Advisor_x]

Change doctor.........

 

[tahoe2003]

I would change doctors.

 

[tatman3177]

docs tell you shit ot scare ya. leads to more treatment for them and more money for them. just shit man. if your clean on the tests then screw him.

 

[ironhorse242]

Thanks Guys!

 

[DIVISION]

So I go to the doctor for a yearly exam and he tells me that I have a high muscle enzime count. So I say what the fuck does that mean. He does another blood test and every thing else is normal. So he asks me if I am doing steriods and I told him I have. he starts going off on me telling me that I am going to die and blah blah blah. But every other test came back fine. Has anyone ever had this issue with thier muscle count. By the way this jackass tells me I am 35lbs over weight according to a chart from 1950!

1.) Never admit to your family practioner that you are doing AAS. It's a cardinal sin.

2.) Find another MD, preferably an endocrinologist who will work with you and probably start you on HRT.





DIV

 

[kellygirl]

Hi ironhorse! I'm an MD..the level he was checking is called creatnine kinase(CK). This is an enzyme released by muscles when they are stressed or damaged. If you have muscle mass/percentage that is significantly greater than the average adult and have completed a strenous workout prior to going to your doctor, your CK will be slightly elevated. In the future, wait at least 24 hours after a workout before letting him check your bloodwork

 

[Bostondic]

I am a good friend of Iron Horse 242-he passed away this past Sunday from cardiomyopathy. We had the funeral on Friday. He will be missed dearly.

 

[maldorf]

I am a good friend of Iron Horse 242-he passed away this past Sunday from cardiomyopathy. We had the funeral on Friday. He will be missed dearly.

thank you for posting this on here. I hope that some out there may reconsider "finding a new doc" when a test like this comes back the way it did. It warranted looking into. I had a funny looking EKG once and when they did a nuclear stress test they found caridomyopathy. You can be walking around with this and not even know it.

 

[lookinfit75]

It's amazing that all these people posted and only one person sounded the voice of reason while all others simply told this brother to look the other way. I don't know if the high CK count would idicate damage to the heart (I am not an MD so don't shoot me) but he HAD to have known that there was something wrong. Enlargement of the heart doesn't go unoticed.
May Ironhorse be at peace now and may God bless him and the family he left behind. 39 years old is just to damn young to die no matter what the circumstances are. i for one am totally reevaluating this whole steroid business. I do this as a healthy outlet for some extra energy and also to improve my health. I don't want it to kill me!

 

[mickeyb69]

It's amazing that all these people posted and only one person sounded the voice of reason while all others simply told this brother to look the other way. I don't know if the high CK count would idicate damage to the heart (I am not an MD so don't shoot me) but he HAD to have known that there was something wrong. Enlargement of the heart doesn't go unoticed.
May Ironhorse be at peace now and may God bless him and the family he left behind. 39 years old is just to damn young to die no matter what the circumstances are. i for one am totally reevaluating this whole steroid business. I do this as a healthy outlet for some extra energy and also to improve my health. I don't want it to kill me!

You can say that again, and again and again.
Its sad how this industry has been taken over by people who are not satisfied unless they are 275 lbs at 5'9". These guys don't look like bodybuilders, they look like gorilla freaks.

 

[OXANDRIN]

I'm very sorry to hear about this guy passing on, very sad. I'd also like to point out, that too many of the people on here are not qualified to give medical advice and this guy should not have been going on a fitness board to ask if his blood work is cause for alarm. He didn't even know what the doctor was talking about. This was in 2005, I have no idea if this death could have been prevented but before you people open your mouth and say "get a new doctor" remember this thread.

 

[Singleton]

I'm lucky. My doc is a sports med doc

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He's not happy til my natural levels are at 1000! Gotta love an intelligent doc.

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[Singleton]

Hi ironhorse! I'm an MD..the level he was checking is called creatnine kinase(CK). This is an enzyme released by muscles when they are stressed or damaged. If you have muscle mass/percentage that is significantly greater than the average adult and have completed a strenous workout prior to going to your doctor, your CK will be slightly elevated. In the future, wait at least 24 hours after a workout before letting him check your bloodwork

And for those of us who work out twice a day, up to four hours per day, do we wait until a layoff to do bloodwork?

Doctors seem not to act as proactive health practitioners, but more as workers who diagnose disease and ameliorate pain. I've not yet fount one willing to consider exercise and supplement protocols. Most just interrupt me and end the visit.