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well...I gained nearly 20lbs off of fake gear...

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I had bought 2 bottles of QV EQ and 2 bottles of QV enanthate and it turns out theyre all fake. I also had leoffler dbols (the pink ones) which turned out to be fake too. So basically, after 10 weeks of fake gear, I still gained about 18lbs of quality muscle somehow. The only thing that was legit was my Arimidex and Clomid which I had bought from a different source. Well anyway, sucks to be me. Hopefully Ill get super huge when I finally round up enough cash to do a real cycle. Live and learn I guess...


btw, my source for this bunk gear was GV ([email protected]). I had ordered from him about 2 months before he was revealed as a scammer. At the time I ordered, several mods recommended him (including one from EF). I know for a fact that he used to be a good guy. I dont know what happened. The bottles and box looked PERFECT. Everything looked real, including the shrinkwrapping, text, holograms, fliptop, etc. Im guessing they might have been refilled.

BTW MODS: This Source post has already been cleared. GV was revealed as a scammer on a thread which was posted here on EF awhile back which was approved.
 
the placibo effect sure works wonders.
the reason you kept/got gains is probably the arimidex. I stay on adex all the time because if i go off it I loose muscle b/c I have naturally high estrogen.
 
Well it wasnt fake...It doesnt take a brain surgeon to figue that one out. Big Mac...A-dex is good stuff, but there is no way it could ever result in gaining 18 lbs from it.

Rick, if your gear was really fake and you gained 18lbs naturally you shouldnt ever buy any gear ever again.

This is a funny thread.
 
we went through a whole long ass thread with this guy regarding his gear...he was bashing on QV and the whole board was on his ass about this talking shit. He had some blood work done and his test level suposibly was normal so that told him that his gear was fake. So go figure
 
rickcorso said:
I had bought 2 bottles of QV EQ and 2 bottles of QV enanthate and it turns out theyre all fake. I also had leoffler dbols (the pink ones) which turned out to be fake too. So basically, after 10 weeks of fake gear, I still gained about 18lbs of quality muscle somehow. The only thing that was legit was my Arimidex and Clomid which I had bought from a different source. Well anyway, sucks to be me. Hopefully Ill get super huge when I finally round up enough cash to do a real cycle. Live and learn I guess...


btw, my source for this bunk gear was GV ([email protected]). I had ordered from him about 2 months before he was revealed as a scammer. At the time I ordered, several mods recommended him (including one from EF). I know for a fact that he used to be a good guy. I dont know what happened. The bottles and box looked PERFECT. Everything looked real, including the shrinkwrapping, text, holograms, fliptop, etc. Im guessing they might have been refilled.

BTW MODS: This Source post has already been cleared. GV was revealed as a scammer on a thread which was posted here on EF awhile back which was approved.
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huh??
 
gilly6993 said:
I've gained 60 lbs of muscle all on fake gear....now that's all I buy!
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I'm with Gilly on this one. The QV fakes are just awesome! I keep hoping to get the same fake QV I've been getting, just like rickcorso's. There's no reason to run real gear when QV has the greatest placebo effect in the history of man. I can't say I always make an 18lb gain off my fakes, but it's always solid. I know all QV is fake, because I peed in a cup and my doctor said he didn't smell even close to 50mg of Oxandralone in my urine. :rolleyes:
:p
-B
 
Sounds to me like you had plenty of growing room and probably didnt need gear to begin with.
 
rickcorso said:
I had bought 2 bottles of QV EQ and 2 bottles of QV enanthate and it turns out theyre all fake. I also had leoffler dbols (the pink ones) which turned out to be fake too. So basically, after 10 weeks of fake gear, I still gained about 18lbs of quality muscle somehow. The only thing that was legit was my Arimidex and Clomid which I had bought from a different source. Well anyway, sucks to be me. Hopefully Ill get super huge when I finally round up enough cash to do a real cycle. Live and learn I guess...


btw, my source for this bunk gear was GV ([email protected]). I had ordered from him about 2 months before he was revealed as a scammer. At the time I ordered, several mods recommended him (including one from EF). I know for a fact that he used to be a good guy. I dont know what happened. The bottles and box looked PERFECT. Everything looked real, including the shrinkwrapping, text, holograms, fliptop, etc. Im guessing they might have been refilled.

BTW MODS: This Source post has already been cleared. GV was revealed as a scammer on a thread which was posted here on EF awhile back which was approved.
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how do you know it was fake? let me guess some guy on line told you so??? did you do your blood work post cycle to comfirm the fact that the gear was bunk?
 
Sounds like maybe someone fu***d up on the blood work. I had mine checked when I was on QV enanth and it was 3347.
 
rickcorso sounds like my stupid training partner who wants to be anIFBB pro someday. this dumbass has no chance of ever being a pro so he goes out gets some gh takes it for a week and comes to the gym telling me he can see striations and everything is waaaaaaaaaay bigger now....him and rickcorso should hook up and start making their own shit....two idiots!!!
 
The reason I am pretty confident they were fake:


1.) My test levels 1 week prior to starting the cycle and 10 weeks into the cycle were exactly the same.

2.) I received 2 emails from other bros who ordered from the same source and they both claimed to have received fakes as well.

3.) Not a single side effect (my cycle was originally 500mg/week of test and 400mg/week of EQ and 25mg/day of dbol. I upped the dbol to 50mg/day for 2 weeks and noted no side effects either)
 
rickcorso said:
The reason I am pretty confident they were fake:


1.) My test levels 1 week prior to starting the cycle and 10 weeks into the cycle were exactly the same.

2.) I received 2 emails from other bros who ordered from the same source and they both claimed to have received fakes as well.

3.) Not a single side effect (my cycle was originally 500mg/week of test and 400mg/week of EQ and 25mg/day of dbol. I upped the dbol to 50mg/day for 2 weeks and noted no side effects either)
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1. That one is a bit worrisome.
2. Honestly, holds little credibility at all.
3. No sides...what about an 18 lb. increase, that is a side effect of AS.

If they were in fact fake then as Zyg has pointed out you still had a lot of natural potential left that you were able to tap in to.
 
The Terminator said:


1. That one is a bit worrisome.
2. Honestly, holds little credibility at all.
3. No sides...what about an 18 lb. increase, that is a side effect of AS.

If they were in fact fake then as Zyg has pointed out you still had a lot of natural potential left that you were able to tap in to.
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thats what Im thinking. But its strange since before the cycle I was about 190lbs, about 11% BF and I had been training for a few years. Before this "cycle" I had never made such fast gains (except when I first started training). Go figure.
 
Lucky you! Just inject some wesson oil from your kitchen and look at all the money you will save. When I was taking fake shit I didn't gain a pound. I guess it sucks more to be me.
 
rickcorso said:
The reason I am pretty confident they were fake:


1.) My test levels 1 week prior to starting the cycle and 10 weeks into the cycle were exactly the same.

2.) I received 2 emails from other bros who ordered from the same source and they both claimed to have received fakes as well.

3.) Not a single side effect (my cycle was originally 500mg/week of test and 400mg/week of EQ and 25mg/day of dbol. I upped the dbol to 50mg/day for 2 weeks and noted no side effects either)
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I'm using 3 times the amount that you are using in test and dbol and I don't have side effects. What side effects are you looking for anyways? dick fallng off? going bald? liver failure? please inform me because I sure as fuck never gotten any of that shit and I've been cycling for al ong time with lot heavier doses.
 
LAWNSAVER said:
Well it wasnt fake...It doesnt take a brain surgeon to figue that one out. Big Mac...A-dex is good stuff, but there is no way it could ever result in gaining 18 lbs from it.

Rick, if your gear was really fake and you gained 18lbs naturally you shouldnt ever buy any gear ever again.

This is a funny thread.
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I totaly agree with Lawnsaver, your gear wasn't fake. By the way what makes you think your gear was fake anyway?
IG
 
bebaumax said:


I'm with Gilly on this one. The QV fakes are just awesome! I keep hoping to get the same fake QV I've been getting, just like rickcorso's. There's no reason to run real gear when QV has the greatest placebo effect in the history of man. I can't say I always make an 18lb gain off my fakes, but it's always solid. I know all QV is fake, because I peed in a cup and my doctor said he didn't smell even close to 50mg of Oxandralone in my urine. :rolleyes:
:p
-B
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No shit bro, I am running all fake gear this time and am loving it. The fake qv eq is doing wonders for me. I completely scammed myself on fake homemade fina. I am so pissed that I am going to go kick my own ass right now!!!
 
rickcorso said:



thats what Im thinking. But its strange since before the cycle I was about 190lbs, about 11% BF and I had been training for a few years. Before this "cycle" I had never made such fast gains (except when I first started training). Go figure.
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Go figure :confused:How much did you increase your cals & protien while on this fake gear, that shoud tell you where your weight came from, My opinion your gear was very real now get ready to take your clomid :D
 
Zyglamail said:
Sounds to me like you had plenty of growing room and probably didnt need gear to begin with.
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That's what I'm thinking. I gained ~15lbs in 6 weeks just by ramping up my calories and training harder and getting more sleep than usual. This guy could have gained the weight he claims without gear. I'm guessing he started training harder and eating bigger under the assumption he was taking real gear. Throw in the Arim and consider he probably had plenty of natural potential left...I don't doubt his story as much as some of you. I'm sure some of that weight is fat also...maybe not a lot, but 3-5 lbs of fat along with 12-15lbs muscle is possible.

Jobu
 
One thing I have learned in the med field is that you never trust ONE lab test. So my question to you is are you sure beyond any doubt that the lab test in no way could have been flawed? Maybe see about gettin another test now that you are done to help validate your opinion. Something to consider. Can you post pics of your lab tests and your gear as well? I am not saying you are wrong, but something isn't right!
 
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There is no way you can put on 18lbs in 10 weeks off of fake gear. I would like to know how you figure it was fake, especially if it put on 18lbs on you in 10 weeks. Let me guess, it must have been the creatine and glutamine mix. I cant stand people that dont have a clue on what the hell they are talking about
 
"There is no way you can put on 18lbs in 10 weeks off of fake gear"

I could gain 18lbs in 8 weeks - just by eating my ass off.

What were your strength gains like. Thats the true tail. I can gain wieght natually but increasing strength in a short period is hard if you have been training for a couple of years.

I am not even sure if you are being serious or not.

Did you just get fat? Or did your strength also increase?
 
My first thought

I would call Bullshit!!

However, let's look at this just for a second. There was a company that is selling some diet crap that says if you pay them $75 per month to buy this crap you will lose weight. The trick you are not allowed to eat 4 hours before you go to sleep because you have to take it (diet crap) on any empty stomach. It sold like hotcakes. Pretty obvious it would work. Many people eat crap right before they go to bed. So they had a bunch of happy campers.

Flip the scenario. Bro thinks he has gear. Eats better than ever lifts heavier mentally and puts on maybe 10 lbs. 18? I don't think so. Unless he was malnourished.

My point, either this is bullshit or gained some and put a 1 in front of the 8.

Just my .02
 
yea I havent bought any new gear for years I just take my original five bottles and re fill them with 1part cricso and 2 parts zest italian for extra kick oooh and ahh I also take my empty bottles of russ d-bol and fill them with asprin-last cycle gained 60 lbs in 12 weeks -nothin like fake gear!!:FRlol: :FRlol: what a jackass!:newbie:
 
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