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NorCalBdyBldr
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"What if Saddam (knowing his MDW would be found) transported them across the border to Syrie. Afterall alot of Iraqi's did go over the border as well for their own protection. Maybe Saddam/Bin Laden are in Syrie.
Sure he had MDW, he bought them from the U.S. back in the eighties.
But that does not main one should invade the country. A lot of countries have mass destruction weapons."
It highly UNLIKELY that Sadaam transported much of anything into Syria. Think about it........we have had satellites capable of reading the license plates on parked cars since at least the early 1970's. I have personally seen pics of Russian made satellites shot from the ground in the U.S. that showed the satellite so well, even though it was 150 miles away and through all kinds of atmospheric distortions of density, pressure, moisture, vapor pressure, etc. that you could even see the kind of bolts they used to make it also taken back in the early 1970's. We also are continuously flying over all areas of Iraq with our planes since the war began. If there were all these MASSIVE quantities of WMD, then how would he hide the transport of them in the open desert and where would he hide them when he got to wherever he arrived at?
Truth is that we had no problem verifying that North Korea made good on their threat to start reprocessing spent fuel rods to make nulear bomb grade material to use for bombs after we broke the ten year agreement with them not todo this in exchange for cheap heating oil. That worked for ten years and we had surveillance information that confirmed this--the agreement did not, however, cover the testing and developing of long range missles but was for nuclear weapons. Bush chose to break the deal saying "we will not be blackmailed" and he disagreed with North Korea's ascertion that they have the right to make these things but chose not to because of the agreement. There was not an allegation on the part of the U.S. that they (north Korea) broke the deal. We broke the deal, they made good on a threat and then we easily verified that they are in fact doing EXACTLY what they said would and we even know EXACTLY how much they are making and how many nukes per year that translates into. So again, why do you think that Sadaam would be able to move ANYTHING of significance during the war and be able to actually HIDE it? It seems very much more plausible that he would use any weapons at his disposal to defend his regime when backed to the wall with an invasion by superior forces. I also don't know of a single historical precedent where a nation threatened and invaded by another, chose to destroy ANY of their weapons in lieu of using them against their enemy. It is not even logical.
Also, Sadaam did NOT buy WMD from the U.S. or anyone else. He had a WMD program that effectively ended after Gulf War I. Ten years of U.N. inspections and the notable lack of the surfacing or use of these weapons during the war (none were used) and none have been discovered to date even though we have control over Iraq now and don't have to deal with their bureacracy to go and look anywhere we want to. And frankly, these kinds of stockpiles, if you have ever even seen a depot of chemical weapons (I have seen U.S. chemical weapons stockpiles in the past at a U.S. Army Chemical Weapons Depot in the U.S.), are not exactly easy to hide believe it or not. He DID however, buy materials like Hydrogen Cyanide Gas from U.S. Chemical manufacturers with the nod of the Reagan Administration (yet another Republican Administration..........a trend here?)
You should also be aware that the tracking of most chemicals of interest is fairly thorough worldwide so we easily can get intelligence on what and how much was sold to whom. And yes, we do know how much French companies sold or German companies sold, etc. And we even have a fairly good idea how much Chinese companies sold.
Sure he had MDW, he bought them from the U.S. back in the eighties.
But that does not main one should invade the country. A lot of countries have mass destruction weapons."
It highly UNLIKELY that Sadaam transported much of anything into Syria. Think about it........we have had satellites capable of reading the license plates on parked cars since at least the early 1970's. I have personally seen pics of Russian made satellites shot from the ground in the U.S. that showed the satellite so well, even though it was 150 miles away and through all kinds of atmospheric distortions of density, pressure, moisture, vapor pressure, etc. that you could even see the kind of bolts they used to make it also taken back in the early 1970's. We also are continuously flying over all areas of Iraq with our planes since the war began. If there were all these MASSIVE quantities of WMD, then how would he hide the transport of them in the open desert and where would he hide them when he got to wherever he arrived at?
Truth is that we had no problem verifying that North Korea made good on their threat to start reprocessing spent fuel rods to make nulear bomb grade material to use for bombs after we broke the ten year agreement with them not todo this in exchange for cheap heating oil. That worked for ten years and we had surveillance information that confirmed this--the agreement did not, however, cover the testing and developing of long range missles but was for nuclear weapons. Bush chose to break the deal saying "we will not be blackmailed" and he disagreed with North Korea's ascertion that they have the right to make these things but chose not to because of the agreement. There was not an allegation on the part of the U.S. that they (north Korea) broke the deal. We broke the deal, they made good on a threat and then we easily verified that they are in fact doing EXACTLY what they said would and we even know EXACTLY how much they are making and how many nukes per year that translates into. So again, why do you think that Sadaam would be able to move ANYTHING of significance during the war and be able to actually HIDE it? It seems very much more plausible that he would use any weapons at his disposal to defend his regime when backed to the wall with an invasion by superior forces. I also don't know of a single historical precedent where a nation threatened and invaded by another, chose to destroy ANY of their weapons in lieu of using them against their enemy. It is not even logical.
Also, Sadaam did NOT buy WMD from the U.S. or anyone else. He had a WMD program that effectively ended after Gulf War I. Ten years of U.N. inspections and the notable lack of the surfacing or use of these weapons during the war (none were used) and none have been discovered to date even though we have control over Iraq now and don't have to deal with their bureacracy to go and look anywhere we want to. And frankly, these kinds of stockpiles, if you have ever even seen a depot of chemical weapons (I have seen U.S. chemical weapons stockpiles in the past at a U.S. Army Chemical Weapons Depot in the U.S.), are not exactly easy to hide believe it or not. He DID however, buy materials like Hydrogen Cyanide Gas from U.S. Chemical manufacturers with the nod of the Reagan Administration (yet another Republican Administration..........a trend here?)
You should also be aware that the tracking of most chemicals of interest is fairly thorough worldwide so we easily can get intelligence on what and how much was sold to whom. And yes, we do know how much French companies sold or German companies sold, etc. And we even have a fairly good idea how much Chinese companies sold.
