We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

[superqt4u2nv]

So all the guys that have such a problem with woman can go and bitch. I am almost sure I see a thread on a weekly bases about how much a guy around here hates woman and how we are all evil bitches. I have had a few bad experiences in my day with men but never would I paint them with the wide brush strokes that so many of you guys do with woman. I am sorry you need to get over it. The sooner you do the sooner you will find the happiness you’re looking for.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

 

[tuc biscuit]

yep, some of the pathetic whining that goes on here is laughable

 

[RADAR]

So all the guys that have such a problem with woman can go and bitch. I am almost sure I see a thread on a weekly bases about how much a guy around here hates woman and how we are all evil bitches. I have had a few bad experiences in my day with men but never would I paint them with the wide brush strokes that so many of you guys do with woman. I am sorry you need to get over it. The sooner you do the sooner you will find the happiness you’re looking for.

I'm happy happy!


RADAR

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I'm happy happy!


RADAR

Not saying you are or that all the C&C guys are just some.

 

[danielson]

it cannot compare to the male bashing that goes on in society and the media

this is the only place its socially acceptable to talk about it...

 

[velvett]

Oh, that would be the CC forum.

It comes in phases - it too will pass

 

[Smurfy]

ah well. people are naturally gonna wanna bitch about something. ic ould care less if a man or men want to bitch about the bitches who acted like bitches to them.

 

[Barak]

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)

This is why I don't complain too much. Doesn't accomplish anything, besides it can always be worse.

 

[flex123]

I don't exactly straight out bash woman....but damn those creatures definatly have a different thinking strategy.

 

[velvett]

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
Herm Albright (1876 - 1944)
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LOL


Brilliant!


No wonder I like the moody ones.

 

[big4life]

It's actually better than it was. There was a time where you would come here and find ten or more threads on the first page crying about the "evil women."

I look at it like this, if you go out thinking that you are going to play someone, don't cry when you get played. That is what most of those threads use to be about. There were some that were about relationships going bad, but those were few and far between. If you have a bad experience with the opposite sex, it's best to move on and not dwell on it, otherwise you will become bitter. That goes for men and women.

 

[Mandinka2]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

it cannot compare to the male bashing that goes on in society and the media

this is the only place its socially acceptable to talk about it...

Fair fucks to you man for saying that.... personally I think there's very little women bashing here - it's mostly confined to "I was with this woman and she cheated on me , why ?" so it's on an individual basis. Personally I'm a little like flex123 , I'm entirely in love with women, it's just that certain features of their characters I don't understand very well and I'd kinda appreciate it if some of the ladies would help me to understand.
There are some very objective and analytical ladies here and I love their threads and posts , in fact on another board I tend to read their threads first! Being a guy I occassionally find the company of men rather dull and the ladies never fail to at the very least fascinate me.

 

[Mr. dB]

I'm invisible to women.

 

[Testosterone boy]

Fair fucks to you man for saying that.... personally I think there's very little women bashing here - it's mostly confined to "I was with this woman and she cheated on me , why ?" so it's on an individual basis. Personally I'm a little like flex123 , I'm entirely in love with women, it's just that certain features of their characters I don't understand very well and I'd kinda appreciate it if some of the ladies would help me to understand.
There are some very objective and analytical ladies here and I love their threads and posts , in fact on another board I tend to read their threads first! Being a guy I occassionally find the company of men rather dull and the ladies never fail to at the very least fascinate me.

This is why I became a stalker. Then it evolved into a substantial income generator as they frequently try to buy me off in order to stay out from under their bed.

j/k.....I am developing a scenario to enjoy their charms without unduly suffering from their mental malfeasance. Wish me luck.

btw superqt, I made a decision while on vacation that I would indeed welcome the opportunity to play with those breastices.

 

[The Wenis]

how about an "i love my woman despite her acute senses" forum?

 

[jenscats5]

Fair fucks to you man for saying that.... personally I think there's very little women bashing here - it's mostly confined to "I was with this woman and she cheated on me , why ?" so it's on an individual basis. Personally I'm a little like flex123 , I'm entirely in love with women, it's just that certain features of their characters I don't understand very well and I'd kinda appreciate it if some of the ladies would help me to understand.
There are some very objective and analytical ladies here and I love their threads and posts , in fact on another board I tend to read their threads first! Being a guy I occassionally find the company of men rather dull and the ladies never fail to at the very least fascinate me.

What specifically would you like to understand??



Anyway, it's funny that "certain behaviors" in women = bitchy, manipulative, the "C" word, etc while the SAME traits in men are "manly," successful, etc

BTW -- I'm considered arrogant & unapproachable which = confident & right most of the time!

 

[Mandinka2]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

What specifically would you like to understand??



Anyway, it's funny that "certain behaviors" in women = bitchy, manipulative, the "C" word, etc while the SAME traits in men are "manly," successful, etc

BTW -- I'm considered arrogant & unapproachable which = confident & right most of the time!

Their callousness to be precise.
The way they will all rally around to support a fellow woman regardless of what she had done. For example if a man had butchered his wife's genitals a la Lorena Bobbitt then both women AND men would be baying for his blood and rightly so.
AAP made a remark I consider to be very "female" in nature and questioned him on it but he has not come back to me , perhaps you cna help - its post #36 :http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=247277&page=2
Many thanks.

 

[danielson]

Their callousness to be precise.
The way they will all rally around to support a fellow woman regardless of what she had done. For example if a man had butchered his wife's genitals a la Lorena Bobbitt then both women AND men would be baying for his blood and rightly so.
AAP made a remark I consider to be very "female" in nature and questioned him on it but he has not come back to me , perhaps you cna help - its post #36 :http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=247277&page=2
Many thanks.

agreed...i will never fathom how on the one hand women are known for their love and kindness and on the other hand how they can utterly detach themselves from a situation to the extent they are capable of anything.

And that women will seemingly always rally round one another over men, but seemingly always fight, backstab or bitch at each other just as easily


and for the record im not saying men aren't capable of this or don't have their own unique faults but i've seen this in so many women and it always perplexes me

 

[vinylgroover]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

So all the guys that have such a problem with woman can go and bitch. I am almost sure I see a thread on a weekly bases about how much a guy around here hates woman and how we are all evil bitches. I have had a few bad experiences in my day with men but never would I paint them with the wide brush strokes that so many of you guys do with woman. I am sorry you need to get over it. The sooner you do the sooner you will find the happiness you’re looking for.

show us your tits and all is forgiven.

 

[Paulo]

'Bitter Man', wasn't that a Pearl Jam song?

 

[jenscats5]

Their callousness to be precise.
The way they will all rally around to support a fellow woman regardless of what she had done. For example if a man had butchered his wife's genitals a la Lorena Bobbitt then both women AND men would be baying for his blood and rightly so.
AAP made a remark I consider to be very "female" in nature and questioned him on it but he has not come back to me , perhaps you cna help - its post #36 :http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=247277&page=2
Many thanks.

Welllll, this "rallying" doesn't always happen......I can't stand the Life Channel cuz it makes all men seem like they are abusers & take advantage of women & that's not true.....it should be called the "men haters" channel.

I couldn't figure out which remark in that thread that AAP made that seemed female to you......can you post which quote you mean? He made more than one post.....do you mean the ability to walk away from a relationship where the woman claimed to love the man?? That is a VERY hard thing to do....I'm sure some people (men & women) just get off playing with people's emotions, but when the relationship is over & you know it & the other person is begging to be taken back, but you know the relationship is toxic & cannot be fixed --it's not callousness that causes the person to walk away -- it's strength. Because if you took them back then you'd be back in the same position you were in B4 with no changes and still very unhappy.......sometimes you have to end a relationship no matter what.

Plus you don't know how the person feels cuz you can't see inside them & you also don't know how many nights she may be home alone crying......so what you deem callousness may be something else........

 

[Mandinka2]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

Welllll, this "rallying" doesn't always happen......I can't stand the Life Channel cuz it makes all men seem like they are abusers & take advantage of women & that's not true.....it should be called the "men haters" channel.

Well ok but u still have avoided the Bobbitt case.... why or even how could that happen ? I have personally the victim of a bi-polar woman and she was never short of women clamouring around supporting her no matter what she did regardless of whether she was totally pissed , if I had a black eye etc. I was always doubted (I barely ever drink/drank) no matter what and it's not simply the Life channel , it is LIFE !

I couldn't figure out which remark in that thread that AAP made that seemed female to you......can you post which quote you mean?

Brutha... If you were in this condition after breaking up with me.. (and you would be - trust me), I would turn around and take advantage of your pain so badly that it would be embarassing. I would have you spending mega dollars on me, cleaning my house, washing my car, sitting at home alone on Friday nights while I went out, rubbing my feet before going back home each night, coming over cooking my breakfast, etc... etc...

He made more than one post.....do you mean the ability to walk away from a relationship where the woman claimed to love the man?? That is a VERY hard thing to do....I'm sure some people (men & women) just get off playing with people's emotions, but when the relationship is over & you know it & the other person is begging to be taken back, but you know the relationship is toxic & cannot be fixed --it's not callousness that causes the person to walk away -- it's strength. Because if you took them back then you'd be back in the same position you were in B4 with no changes and still very unhappy.......sometimes you have to end a relationship no matter what.

Plus you don't know how the person feels cuz you can't see inside them & you also don't know how many nights she may be home alone crying......so what you deem callousness may be something else........

No that's not what I'm talking about at all , I'm talking about the almost unashamed pleasure that the "modern woman" takes in inflicting pain upon her mate , telling her female friends just how much she is enjoying giving her other lover bjs etc etc. And worse again , her female friends all conspire in the joy of this punishment and in general the poor son of a bitch is not only kept in the dark but further humiliated by her friends. We all rounded together against Flexygrl's husband to condemn him and run him off the board and yet there is a certain female member on this board who has admitted openly to cheating on her husband and father of her 3 (or is it 4 I forget) kids and I was the only dissenting voice. In fact she seems to be lauded on the boards rather than condemned for the skank that she de facto is.
I'm talking about how a woman can seemingly wake up in the morning and take a (metaphorical) knife , plunge it into her lover's back and not suffer a moment's remorse.

I do know men who have cheated and yet when he regales his story he is chastised by other men , and occassionally are overcome wiht guilt , something I have never seen in a woman.

 

[The_Ghost]

I am never bitter!

 

[jenscats5]

Well ok but u still have avoided the Bobbitt case.... why or even how could that happen ? I have personally the victim of a bi-polar woman and she was never short of women clamouring around supporting her no matter what she did regardless of whether she was totally pissed , if I had a black eye etc. I was always doubted (I barely ever drink/drank) no matter what and it's not simply the Life channel , it is LIFE !


No that's not what I'm talking about at all , I'm talking about the almost unashamed pleasure that the "modern woman" takes in inflicting pain upon her mate , telling her female friends just how much she is enjoying giving her other lover bjs etc etc. And worse again , her female friends all conspire in the joy of this punishment and in general the poor son of a bitch is not only kept in the dark but further humiliated by her friends. We all rounded together against Flexygrl's husband to condemn him and run him off the board and yet there is a certain female member on this board who has admitted openly to cheating on her husband and father of her 3 (or is it 4 I forget) kids and I was the only dissenting voice. In fact she seems to be lauded on the boards rather than condemned for the skank that she de facto is.
I'm talking about how a woman can seemingly wake up in the morning and take a (metaphorical) knife , plunge it into her lover's back and not suffer a moment's remorse.

I do know men who have cheated and yet when he regales his story he is chastised by other men , and occassionally are overcome wiht guilt , something I have never seen in a woman.

How could the Bobbit case happen? Cuz that woman was freakin nuts!! She's obviously crazy.......I guess in her mind (what there is of it) she must have somehow rationalized her act as the best way to inflict the most pain on him......I don't know.....I don't, didn't & wouldn't ever support that type of action......

I knew a woman who was bi polar or faked it pretty good for the attention.....anyway she treated her hubby like shit & I don't support men hitting women for any reason, ever.........BUT she deserved a good slap! She knew his "buttons" & when to push them & how & boy did she to the point of violence.......that type of behavior to me is unacceptable and to me proof of someone who is mentally ill or just plain F'd in the head.....

Frankly, I don't know of any women who cheat on their hubbys & brag about it......plus I don't know who here on the board does that, I guess I missed it.....don't know who they are......I don't believe in cheating by anyone, male or female.....I also don't personally know any women who take joy out of torturing their husbands, at least they don't tell me if they do......I DO know women who are just plain miserable & I work with all of them.....they seem to celebrate negativity & being miserable.....

I personally wouldn't let someone else's bad behavior determine my self worth.....if someone treated you the way you describe above, I wouldn't put up with it........

 

[velvett]

Well ok but u still have avoided the Bobbitt case.... why or even how could that happen ? I have personally the victim of a bi-polar woman and she was never short of women clamouring around supporting her no matter what she did regardless of whether she was totally pissed , if I had a black eye etc. I was always doubted (I barely ever drink/drank) no matter what and it's not simply the Life channel , it is LIFE !

I do know men who have cheated and yet when he regales his story he is chastised by other men , and occassionally are overcome wiht guilt , something I have never seen in a woman.

That sounds pretty bad.

I can tell you that there are woman that have shared a similar fate.

 

[Mandinka2]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

That sounds pretty bad.

I can tell you that there are woman that have shared a similar fate.

Well ladies thanks very much for the kind words and yes I was utterly taken to the cleaners by that girl - she also bore a tattoo of my name on her butt as a sign that she was indeed committed (i thought she was nuts too but then i fell in love). But neither of you are answering the questions:
1. Why do women feel no remorse?
2. Why do other women not chastise these women - for example why were other women not simply saying that the Bobbitt defense case was bullshit ? It seems that women are eternally locked in a battle with men with only one of the combatants having swords drawn.
I do not seek retribution - that is not my character - I seek enlightenment (I realise that is incredibly arrogant of me and I didnt mean it to sound quite so).

 

[jenscats5]

Well ladies thanks very much for the kind words and yes I was utterly taken to the cleaners by that girl - she also bore a tattoo of my name on her butt as a sign that she was indeed committed (i thought she was nuts too but then i fell in love). But neither of you are answering the questions:
1. Why do women feel no remorse?
2. Why do other women not chastise these women - for example why were other women not simply saying that the Bobbitt defense case was bullshit ? It seems that women are eternally locked in a battle with men with only one of the combatants having swords drawn.
I do not seek retribution - that is not my character - I seek enlightenment (I realise that is incredibly arrogant of me and I didnt mean it to sound quite so).

1) Why do women feel no remorse? Why doesn't anyone feel remorse for anything they do?? Society today is totally screwed up -- people do things they don't feel remorse for, there is no respect for other people, etc......
There seems to be a sort of anti-social thing going on with a lot of people these days and not just women......

2) I don't remember the specifics in the Bobbit case, so I can't comment on the defense strategy, plus I'm not an attorney & don't know why they would choose a particular defense strategy.....as for why women support other women's bad behavior? A desire to belong to a clique or club? To me, women are very clique-ish and catty......as to why they are like that I don't know......

I guess the "eternal battle" as you call is exists cuz men & women are so very different just cuz they are men & women & then you have personality, etc on top of it all.......

 

[velvett]

1. Why do women feel no remorse?
2. Why do other women not chastise these women - for example why were other women not simply saying that the Bobbitt defense case was bullshit ? It seems that women are eternally locked in a battle with men with only one of the combatants having swords drawn.
I do not seek retribution - that is not my character - I seek enlightenment (I realise that is incredibly arrogant of me and I didnt mean it to sound quite so).

1 - Some do some don't - it's really about how they are brought and what they brought up to believe about themselves and how they should treat others.

2 - Again - some do and some don't. I know I can speak for myself that I don't appreciate the behavior of some women. I've also had no problem speak of thise out loud.

But you know what it's all relative to who you are talking to. I was just told yesterday by another mod that I am with " big attitude and idiot mannerism is what gives the whole womankind a bad name". Go figure.

Men and woman will never see eye to on everything and there's no use trying to make it as such. You just have find people that you are compatible with and just be yourself.

Walk away from those that take from your life oppose to enrich it.

 

[jerkbox]

bahaha...

all the EF haters pwned by superqt.

 

[The Shadow]

I resemble that remark

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I am never bitter!

Sugar plum I was not saying you I said SOME of the EF men NOT ALL of them. You know how highly I think of you. My whole problem is the grand generalizations that are made based on a few bad experiences.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Sugar plum I was not saying you I said SOME of the EF men NOT ALL of them. You know how highly I think of you. My whole problem is the grand generalizations that are made based on a few bad experiences.

look sister, if we're both going to be in the karma church we need to put aside our differences and work for the common good.

 

[argent]

not that it matters, but the record reflect I have never posted a bitter-man thread.

 

[Moderate_THIS]

I'm a biter man, if that means anything

 

[javaguru]

I complain about specific "evil" women not women being "evil" in general. I do however, dislike the fact women lump me into the same category as other guy's before they even get to know me. There are far too many lying asshole guys and it pisses me off that I have to overcome "player" stigma when I meet a woman. Apparently, when you're a good looking, built and have a good personality you're automatically assumed to be a player by many women. Also, before someone wants to point this out as a complaint about women, it isn't, it's more of a complaint about human nature and the assumptions people make based on stereotypes. Both sexes do it, it's just that women are the one's I have to deal with, which is why "woman bashing" is more prevalent on a vastly male dominated board.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

mandinka, I know of who you speak, and she is a friend of mine. I suspect she cheats on him because he has a tiny penis and sucks in bed (from comments I've obvserved). The message here is "If you have a tiny penis learn to be a better lover... if you don't have a tiny penis, it wouldn't hurt to work on your skills any way."

 

[Mandinka2]

mandinka, I know of who you speak, and she is a friend of mine. I suspect she cheats on him because he has a tiny penis and sucks in bed (from comments I've obvserved). The message here is "If you have a tiny penis learn to be a better lover... if you don't have a tiny penis, it wouldn't hurt to work on your skills any way."

I'll start with your remarks mostly because they require least effort to refute - you claim to have "genius level intelligence" or therabouts - did the following ever cross your mind perchance:
1. If his penis was so tiny and he was so crap in bed why/how did they have 3/4 kids together ?
2. If he was so bad why did he go and have a vasectomy (presumably abstinence didnt come into her poor little head since he was so poor in bed?? I dunno about you but I sure as fuck wouldnt even consider such a procedure unless I was fucking like a Goddamn jackrabbit)
3. Women who claim tiny penises are almost certainly devious liars , short shrift would be made of any man who simply claimed "I cheated on my wife cos her pussy was so Goddamned loose". It displays lack of character, morals and integrity .

If you wish to bone people on ef then by all means go ahead , I've even read some comments you've made in PMs to a lady here on the boards - but do not claim that you truly buy that shit , lest you be regarded as a simpleton amongst fools.

 

[KillahBee]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

So all the guys that have such a problem with woman can go and bitch. I am almost sure I see a thread on a weekly bases about how much a guy around here hates woman and how we are all evil bitches. I have had a few bad experiences in my day with men but never would I paint them with the wide brush strokes that so many of you guys do with woman. I am sorry you need to get over it. The sooner you do the sooner you will find the happiness you’re looking for.

LMAO! I would rather be a "whiner" than a self-concious attention whore any day of the week. I would say we need a forum just for the girls that NEED Internet attention but that's what C+C is. The sooner these "women" find a way to live within themselves and truly be a strong independent individual, the sooner they will find the true meaning of happiness.

 

[Mandinka2]

1) Why do women feel no remorse? Why doesn't anyone feel remorse for anything they do?? Society today is totally screwed up -- people do things they don't feel remorse for, there is no respect for other people, etc......
There seems to be a sort of anti-social thing going on with a lot of people these days and not just women......

Lady that's a Goddamn cop-out and you know it , I'm asking you a specific question - to claim simply "that is the way of the world" is not enough , that is not a rational answer.

2) I don't remember the specifics in the Bobbit case, so I can't comment on the defense strategy, plus I'm not an attorney & don't know why they would choose a particular defense strategy.....as for why women support other women's bad behavior? A desire to belong to a clique or club? To me, women are very clique-ish and catty......as to why they are like that I don't know......

Women (under the feminist banner) DID rally to Ms. Bobbit , they did speak out FOR her , why was Oprah and all the other leading lights of the sisterhood not out in force against this barbarism. We do not need to rehash the entire case - it's simple - why does society as a whole view (extreme) violence perpetrated by a woman on a man as being entirely acceptable and justifiable (she got off) and yet not the other way around? And more importantly why do supposedly intelligent women who demand "responsibility" and "parity" with men continue to support such causes ? As you make the point , watching the Lifestyle channel is like watching men-hating - why is that allowed ? WOuld it be allowed for men ? Would Sex and the City for example be allowed for men - imagine 4 guys sitting around a table talking about how tight or loose their women were , with the lead female character called "Ms. Tight" ? The show is a perfect example of how modern women collude together against men. I wish to understand why , for if I know why then I can start with "how to change this (and/or turn it to my advantage)?".

I guess the "eternal battle" as you call is exists cuz men & women are so very different just cuz they are men & women & then you have personality, etc on top of it all.......

I honestly don't think that's nearly enough - what crime did men perpetuate on women to have them so ? If you had simply said "I don't know" then I could accept that but you claimed to help understand and you have offered no rationale. That's more dissappointing and disheartening than you know.

 

[Mandinka2]

1 - Some do some don't - it's really about how they are brought and what they brought up to believe about themselves and how they should treat others..

Ah Miss Velvett , last vestige of feminine reason (sanity even ?)....I agree with you entirely but that is still not the why that I seek. Why do we bring up our daughters to hate men ? Of course men should acknowledge the debt that they owe to their womenfolk to do most of the rearing but it seems that we have lost something really valuable along the way - namely the ability to love and live unselfishly.

2 - Again - some do and some don't. I know I can speak for myself that I don't appreciate the behavior of some women. I've also had no problem speak of thise out loud.

Well I was/am still the only person here to give this woman (for she is no lady) stick for her actions. I thought what you did for Flexygrl was very admirable - she is clearly deserving of our sympathy and love - but I have never seen such an outporing before.

But you know what it's all relative to who you are talking to. I was just told yesterday by another mod that I am with " big attitude and idiot mannerism is what gives the whole womankind a bad name". Go figure.

Men and woman will never see eye to on everything and there's no use trying to make it as such. You just have find people that you are compatible with and just be yourself.

Walk away from those that take from your life oppose to enrich it.

Miss Velvett , amongst the female members of this board I hold you above all others (with the possible exception of Anya and super occassionally says something very thoughtful, and I'd like to say that Jenscats has at the very least her heart in the right place). You are wise , I have never observed "idtiot mannerism" of yours - although I have been warned that the mod board is bitch park central. If you had a big attitude then you alone would be it's rightful wielder. Thankyou for your last comment - I would and have walked away before but once I'm in love then I fall off that cliff and it's always a very very difficult and slippery climb back.
I will still search for an answer sadly. I'm sure my physician friend Danielson is in the same sinking ship that I am - keep bailing.

 

[TheProject]

People are people.
So why should it be you and I should get along so awfully?

 

[alien amp pharm]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

How are you females posting on here?!

Did they start putting computers in kitchens lately or something?

 

[Spartacus]

If I find a bad one I just move on...mostly have had great experiences,with the occassional messy situation,usually around the break-up..since my whole marriage relationship lasted 3.5 years,I have about 20 years experience dating women..there is always someone new and fresh around the bend

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Mandinka, I do not get your reference to reading something I wrote in a PM to an EF lady. I haven't used PM's much in the last 6 months, so I honestly do not know what you are refering too.

 

[Mandinka2]

Mandinka, I do not get your reference to reading something I wrote in a PM to an EF lady. I haven't used PM's much in the last 6 months, so I honestly do not know what you are refering too.

It was not in the last 6 months... please address the body of the post

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Ok, truthfully, Mandinka, I suspect much of it has to do with a huge difference in their libido's. She is now getting into her late 30's and at her sexual peak, while he is slowing down, and clearly does not want sex as much as she does. When he was in his 20's, I'm sure he was thrilled to have married a nympho, however now it has become an issue. Combine these factors with a mentality that says, "Cheating is not that bad..." and you get the idea. In all honesty, I personaly wouldn't marry someone if I thought I could not remain faithful to them, however I cannot be responsible for other people's choices, nor can you. We can only be accountable for our own actions.

In any event, since you did bring it up, please let me know to what statements of mine in a PM you were refering too.

 

[Mandinka2]

Ok, truthfully, Mandinka, I suspect much of it has to do with a huge difference in their libido's. She is now getting into her late 30's and at her sexual peak, while he is slowing down, and clearly does not want sex as much as she does. When he was in his 20's, I'm sure he was thrilled to have married a nympho, however now it has become an issue. Combine these factors with a mentality that says, "Cheating is not that bad..." and you get the idea. In all honesty, I personaly wouldn't marry someone if I thought I could not remain faithful to them, however I cannot be responsible for other people's choices, nor can you. We can only be accountable for our own actions.

In any event, since you did bring it up, please let me know to what statements of mine in a PM you were refering too.

Well that's fucking beautiful logic from you pal , real vintage BBF stuff , so basically cos a guy's libido is normally streets ahead of a woman's he should have a licence to cheat. Hear that ladies!!?? At least we have cut through your (and her) intial pile of steaming bs about penis size and lousiness in bed .

As regards those PMs , the person who let me in on them realised your hypocrasy on the boards - I don't know how many times we were on MSN together and read a post by BBF "I think you're very intelligent and I don't say that very often" , it was farcial man! I'm sure you wrote bascially the same shit to just about every broad who ever came here , I didn't bother my ass to save em tho - I mean they were just ridiculous. And then all that shit about having a genius level IQ , man ,trust me I don't wanna stomp ur little red underoo ass into the ground but you leave yourself open like a spreadeagled Romanian gymnast!

 

[alien amp pharm]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

More tension than a floss-string bikinni on FromZero's fat ass
on this here thread.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Well that's fucking beautiful logic from you pal , real vintage BBF stuff , so basically cos a guy's libido is normally streets ahead of a woman's he should have a licence to cheat. Hear that ladies!!?? At least we have cut through your (and her) intial pile of steaming bs about penis size and lousiness in bed .

As regards those PMs , the person who let me in on them realised your hypocrasy on the boards - I don't know how many times we were on MSN together and read a post by BBF "I think you're very intelligent and I don't say that very often" , it was farcial man! I'm sure you wrote bascially the same shit to just about every broad who ever came here , I didn't bother my ass to save em tho - I mean they were just ridiculous. And then all that shit about having a genius level IQ , man ,trust me I don't wanna stomp ur little red underoo ass into the ground but you leave yourself open like a spreadeagled Romanian gymnast!

Ok, so you chat with Nvr alot. If I recall, she is the only EF lady I told in a PM that I thought she was intelligent. Having talked with her alot via PM's, she is the only one capable of rational thought. In any event, 3% of the population has a genius level IQ. If 500 EF memebers (althought we do not, due to being part of a subculture, represent the populatoin as a whole for sampling purposes) are signed on at once, then roughly 15 of the people reading and posting on the boards at that time are in that range. If you are reading my C&C and ETS posts, that last thing on my mind is writing intellectually stimulation posts. These forums serve as entertainment for me. Read my longer posts on the anabolic or diet forums if you wish to post commentary on my intellectual capacity.

 

[Mandinka2]

Ok, so you chat with Nvr alot. If I recall, she is the only EF lady I told in a PM that I thought she was intelligent. Having talked with her alot via PM's, she is the only one capable of rational thought. In any event, 3% of the population has a genius level IQ. If 500 EF memebers (althought we do not, due to being part of a subculture, represent the populatoin as a whole for sampling purposes) are signed on at once, then roughly 15 of the people reading and posting on the boards at that time are in that range. If you are reading my C&C and ETS posts, that last thing on my mind is writing intellectually stimulation posts. These forums serve as entertainment for me. Read my longer posts on the anabolic or diet forums if you wish to post commentary on my intellectual capacity.

Dude .... you fucking posted that openly on the Goddamn boards about her , not even in a PM!!! 3% at genius level ??? What kinda scale are you using - anything more than the 1% percentile is bullshit and if you knew a fucking thing about stats you would understand the principle of selective decrements - this is a heavily biased board of meatheads.

You serve as entertainment for me pal ,the cleverest people who have graced these boards were all posting HERE : Havoc , Wodin , 2Thick and Warik to name but four with aplogies to the many others who are there or therabouts.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Dude .... you fucking posted that openly on the Goddamn boards about her , not even in a PM!!! 3% at genius level ??? What kinda scale are you using - anything more than the 1% percentile is bullshit and if you knew a fucking thing about stats you would understand the principle of selective decrements - this is a heavily biased board of meatheads.

You serve as entertainment for me pal ,the cleverest people who have graced these boards were all posting HERE : Havoc , Wodin , 2Thick and Warik to name but four with aplogies to the many others who are there or therabouts.

Make up your mind. Are we talking about a girl I sent a PM too saying this, or one I posted it too in an open forum. Why are you so angry at me, and why do you feel the need to attack me personally? It sounds almost as though you are jelous of me for some reason. You seem to have a nice body, and are intelligent, so I have no idea what you seek to gain by attempting to belittle me.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Make up your mind. Are we talking about a girl I sent a PM too saying this, or one I posted it too in an open forum. Why are you so angry at me, and why do you feel the need to attack me personally? It sounds almost as though you are jelous of me for some reason. You seem to have a nice body, and are intelligent, so I have no idea what you seek to gain by attempting to belittle me.

bro just dont argue. you are the definitive source of information on women, love, lust, romance, and chouvinism.

for me anyways!

 

[TheProject]

I knew this thread had potential.

 

[Mandinka2]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

Make up your mind. Are we talking about a girl I sent a PM too saying this, or one I posted it too in an open forum. Why are you so angry at me, and why do you feel the need to attack me personally? It sounds almost as though you are jelous of me for some reason. You seem to have a nice body, and are intelligent, so I have no idea what you seek to gain by attempting to belittle me.

Just get back to the topic willya ? I shouldn't have belittled you man , sorry bout that but you don't even back up your arguments preferring instead to change em with each successive post so I'm left with no choice but to wonder about your motives. Anyway fuck it , stop lookin at my av or im gonna take it down tho - I ain't jealous of u man , you've had some shit in your life and I think you're persona here is a product of some of that but you apologise for the indefensible and I'm not gonna take that from anyone.

 

[Gymgurl]

They can bitch all they want.......but they can't live with out us!!

 

[alien amp pharm]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

They can bitch all they want.......but they can't live with out us!!

If by "us" you mean vagina, then yes I wholeheartidly agree.

 

[Moderate_THIS]

If by "us" you mean vigana, then yes I wholeheartidly agree.

You forgot to re-log in as HI bro

 

[Gymgurl]

That is pretty much what I ment!

 

[alien amp pharm]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

You forgot to re-log in as HI bro

You making fun of my spelling?

Thanks for pointing it out. Allow me to edit...

 

[alien amp pharm]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

That is pretty much what I ment!

It's true, it's very true....I cannot live without FromZero. <---lol get it?

 

[Spartacus]

trust me I don't wanna stomp ur little red underoo ass into the ground but you leave yourself open like a spreadeagled Romanian gymnast![/QUOTE]hehe

 

[randyjones]

Females are a strange breed.My favorite thing is to meet a new girl and to fuck her.My worst nightmare is that same girl sticking around for awhile thinking we are now together because we had sex.The eminem song "superman" sums up all my feelings.I wonder how my favorite thing in life is also my most hated? People say money is the root of all evil but I belive pussy is the root of all evil.No matter how great it starts it all ends the same.Now I know girls are not going to like to hear me say this.So for the ladies I undersatnd how a man can create all kinds of problems for you.He tells you all kinds of great stuff when you are first getting to know eachother.You start to imagine a future with him.Then you sleep togther a few times and everything changes.Suddenly he is avoiding you and acting like nothing ever happend and all those great dreams you had of having a future with him are gone and in their place is this great anger.So you do things to make his life misserable.Where the man will just move on and forget the women must get revenge.This is what angers me.I work hard to look good and spend a whole lot on aas.So I expect to be with different beautiful girls once in a while.I don't want to be anybodys boyfriend or husband.I just want a lot of different beautiful girls I can call once in a while for a casual night that ends with sex.What is wrong with that?

 

[Spartacus]

Randy,Randy..you must get laid alot..I don't,and for because of much of the sentiment you expressed,most girls/women know they don't have a chance at a LT relationship with me..it matters not what I say..its just kinda known in the first glance...when I do get a chance to speak to her,it doesn't matter unless she KNOWS...and then its on,but the ironic thing is I am oftem as afraid of the gal I am most attracted to as she is me

 

[jenscats5]

Lady that's a Goddamn cop-out and you know it , I'm asking you a specific question - to claim simply "that is the way of the world" is not enough , that is not a rational answer.


I disagree that my answer is not rational. And not a cop out. You are making a generalization about women saying "women dont' feel remorse." I am saying that people in general don't feel remorse & it's just not women. I fail to see how that is irrational.

I assume that it's also "irrational" to have a civil conversation on this board/site when simply responding to a post. I certainly don't expect the type of behavior from you that I'm now seeing in response to my posts & others. Possibly if you act like that in person is why you were so mistreated by this particular female. Otherwise, if that is not the reason, then I can only assume she is an ass & just likes to fuck with people for her own devious purposes.

Women (under the feminist banner) DID rally to Ms. Bobbit , they did speak out FOR her , why was Oprah and all the other leading lights of the sisterhood not out in force against this barbarism. We do not need to rehash the entire case - it's simple - why does society as a whole view (extreme) violence perpetrated by a woman on a man as being entirely acceptable and justifiable (she got off) and yet not the other way around? And more importantly why do supposedly intelligent women who demand "responsibility" and "parity" with men continue to support such causes ? As you make the point , watching the Lifestyle channel is like watching men-hating - why is that allowed ? WOuld it be allowed for men ? Would Sex and the City for example be allowed for men - imagine 4 guys sitting around a table talking about how tight or loose their women were , with the lead female character called "Ms. Tight" ? The show is a perfect example of how modern women collude together against men. I wish to understand why , for if I know why then I can start with "how to change this (and/or turn it to my advantage)?".

I'll take your word for it that people rallied around Ms. Bobbit. I did not pay any attention to the media coverage in any way as I'm not interested in that type of news. I can only assume that the current level of "men bashing" & hating will even out in the end as it was until only recently (as in century) that women were no longer considered property.....


I honestly don't think that's nearly enough - what crime did men perpetuate on women to have them so ? If you had simply said "I don't know" then I could accept that but you claimed to help understand and you have offered no rationale. That's more dissappointing and disheartening than you know.

Fine -- I DON'T KNOW!! I apologize for attempting to converse with you on the subject..........

 

[Mandinka2]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

I disagree that my answer is not rational. And not a cop out. You are making a generalization about women saying "women dont' feel remorse." I am saying that people in general don't feel remorse & it's just not women. I fail to see how that is irrational.

Your answer is the essence of a "cop out" , I asked you why and you responded "because it is" , it therefore betrays no rationalism since there is no "why". I give you examples some of which are even on this board - you give me nothing in response. Thanks.

I assume that it's also "irrational" to have a civil conversation on this board/site when simply responding to a post. I certainly don't expect the type of behavior from you that I'm now seeing in response to my posts & others.

Sorry , where was I uncivil to you ? I have already commented to BBF that I shouldnt have belittled him and gave my reason as to why. And you can cut out that mother tone (I certainly don't expect the type of behavior from you)with me lady , that shit might work on some 5 year old kid you can bully around.

Possibly if you act like that in person is why you were so mistreated by this particular female. Otherwise, if that is not the reason, then I can only assume she is an ass & just likes to fuck with people for her own devious purposes.

"Act" ??? What "acts" are you speaking of ? You volunteered your help - in post #18 . I notice you also make mention that "BTW -- I'm considered arrogant & unapproachable which = confident & right most of the time!" - well I can see how you came to that conclusion logically.
You want more evidence of my "behaviour" since you now offer justification (why you were so mistreated) , interesting word there "mistreated" , nice contradiction. I remember being punched so hard my sternum was a yellow
bruise , I had numerous black eyes and had a knife thrown at me - books and other study materials destroyed , I remember holding her wrists on a table so that she wouldn't hit in me in the face again , with her thrashing so violently in a drunken rage that her forearms were bruised which she paraded endlessly to any woman (or indeed man) who would listen. Women complain so much of battered wives and the evil men perpetrate on them and yet regard the opposite situation as an impossibility . Way to go ostriches.
The point was women around her rallied to her. - Take a look at my post again please:

We do not need to rehash the entire case - it's simple - why does society as a whole view (extreme) violence perpetrated by a woman on a man as being entirely acceptable and justifiable (she got off) and yet not the other way around? And more importantly why do supposedly intelligent women who demand "responsibility" and "parity" with men continue to support such causes ? As you make the point , watching the Lifestyle channel is like watching men-hating - why is that allowed ? WOuld it be allowed for men ? Would Sex and the City for example be allowed for men - imagine 4 guys sitting around a table talking about how tight or loose their women were , with the lead female character called "Ms. Tight" ? The show is a perfect example of how modern women collude together against men. I wish to understand why , for if I know why then I can start with "how to change this (and/or turn it to my advantage)?".

It would seem from your repsonse that you are not interested in ANY information that does not back up your particular view - which de facto leads to bias. Unless you never watch television (already established) , live in a conveant and barely walk outside you could have attempted some of my questions - but you didn't . Way to run away from a discussion.

Fine -- I DON'T KNOW!! I apologize for attempting to converse with you on the subject..........

I seriously doubt this , I think the truth is either you don't care or you are happy with the status quo....... the whole thing with the female and male member who cheated on this board is a perfect example of how men are punished severely and rightly for indiscretions but woe betide the man/woman who scrutinises women under the same "harsh" light. It's about "equality".... a word used extensively by women to get exactly what they wanted when it suited them during the latter half of the twentieth century.

 

[jenscats5]

Hey dude....truce......I just thought we were going to have a "debate" of sorts or a discussion on the diffs between men & women.....didn't know it was going to turn into a hate fest......I just wasn't expecting the turn around or biting comments that I felt I was responded with......Again I don't know who the cheating men or women are on this board by name -- I have no idea who they are so I can't comment on why they cheat or don't.....

I felt your comment startin with "lady that's a GD cop out" was a little harsh & unnecessary and I never claimed to have any or all of the answers......was just trying to have a discussion or back & forth on some topics you brought up but it seems to me that since I didn't either give you the answers you wanted or were expecting your attitude took a turn for the worse.....I'm not saying that you deserved to be physically assaulted or anything but I certainly would not tolerate biting comments in return to having a conversation regardless of the topic.....

To me there is no "status quo" there is what is......the situations may change or come & go & you just deal with the ever changing hand you are dealt......if a relationship with someone doesn't work out or isn't what you expected or isn't satisfying you, then you move on & try again --- that goes for friendships & romantic.....

BTW -- you can't have equality with things that aren't equal in every shape or form....and some women do change things to suit them & some don't......my point is is that you can't lump everyone into one category regardless of the behavior of some or a few.....

Oh, and my arrogant & unapproachable comment was made to me on a review cuz I (and how dare I) expect the people who work with me to work in a consistent manner & get their jobs done.....I just thought it would be humorous to make....oh well....another failed attempt at humor....LOL

And as to why society allows domestic abuse of women on men -- I don't know but it shouldn't be acceptable.....I do think the tides are turning on that, but very very slowly....

 

[Mandinka2]

Re: We need an I’m a bitter man forum…

Hey dude....truce......I just thought we were going to have a "debate" of sorts or a discussion on the diffs between men & women.....didn't know it was going to turn into a hate fest......I just wasn't expecting the turn around or biting comments that I felt I was responded with......Again I don't know who the cheating men or women are on this board by name -- I have no idea who they are so I can't comment on why they cheat or don't.....

I felt your comment startin with "lady that's a GD cop out" was a little harsh & unnecessary and I never claimed to have any or all of the answers......was just trying to have a discussion or back & forth on some topics you brought up but it seems to me that since I didn't either give you the answers you wanted or were expecting your attitude took a turn for the worse.....I'm not saying that you deserved to be physically assaulted or anything but I certainly would not tolerate biting comments in return to having a conversation regardless of the topic.....

To me there is no "status quo" there is what is......the situations may change or come & go & you just deal with the ever changing hand you are dealt......if a relationship with someone doesn't work out or isn't what you expected or isn't satisfying you, then you move on & try again --- that goes for friendships & romantic.....

BTW -- you can't have equality with things that aren't equal in every shape or form....and some women do change things to suit them & some don't......my point is is that you can't lump everyone into one category regardless of the behavior of some or a few.....

Oh, and my arrogant & unapproachable comment was made to me on a review cuz I (and how dare I) expect the people who work with me to work in a consistent manner & get their jobs done.....I just thought it would be humorous to make....oh well....another failed attempt at humor....LOL

And as to why society allows domestic abuse of women on men -- I don't know but it shouldn't be acceptable.....I do think the tides are turning on that, but very very slowly....

Of course , I honestly didnt mean to cause offence - you did not attack me until your previous post and so I guess my opening remark was not as respectful as it could have been - sorry about that. But this IS one of the topics of our day and I really want to understand the female perspective and hopefully mind. Because if women are ok with it , and presumably they are or else why would they support other women in such a situation then there ought to be a certain A to B kind of logic behind that , something that i can live with and accept. It's funny you know - were you a man I would have chewed you out to all hell - I am guilty of the bias I accuse others of - I like when men extend courtesy to women. But I am not referring only to men and women cheating , that is not the (only) thing here , the thing is the different (read inequitable) way in which society responds to men and women's indiscretions.
In any case thanks for trying , I did actually give you credit in a previous post but I guess you must have overlooked it due to my brusque manner. Before I finish this remark it may well seem to you that I hate women - nothing could be further from the truth - even with my ex I bear no ill will - her Mum cheated which led to her father's suicide and I suspect there was much in her upbringing which was "unconventional". She would come home drunk and stinking from the pub , but kinda happy , and I'd undress her and wash her teeth in bed - and I have plenty of fond memories of taking care of someone like that. Most of all , the tattoo of my name on her butt is something I'll never forget.... she's had it redone now (at my request) but it is still a very very important thing for me.

 

[Fonz]

LOL@this thread........

I think SuperQT a.k.a. I think I'm too hot for this forum needs a refresher course in MEN.

Bitter man forum.....too funny.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

LOL@this thread........

I think SuperQT a.k.a. I think I'm too hot for this forum needs a refresher course in MEN.

Bitter man forum.....too funny.

Fonz what are you talking about?

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Fonz what are you talking about?

you just got pwned by fonz, how crazy is that

 

[Fonz]

you just got pwned by fonz, how crazy is that

LOL

Now she has her opposite gender mirror image in looks to contend with.

Ahhhh.....this ought to be fun.

 

[Fonz]

you just got pwned by fonz, how crazy is that

Cute cat in your avatar btw. I have an Angora cat, but its in Spain. Takes about 6 months to bring an animal into the US. I just said forget it.

 

[Fonz]

Fonz what are you talking about?

Oh, I got eyes for only you my love....lol



LMFAO

 

[Spartacus]

LOL@this thread........

I think SuperQT a.k.a. I think I'm too hot for this forum needs a refresher course in MEN.

Bitter man forum.....too funny.

hehe,he capitalized MEN