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There has been some debate about dextrose >waxy maize and waxy maize > dextrose. There have been some studies that show waxy maize makes no difference in insulin response and doesn't significantly increase recovery as much as once touted over dextrose.
If you have waxy maize, stick with it. If you don't have waxy maize grab some dextrose or glucose post workout.
Personally I have used two products for post workout which I love. Protein Factory's Big Blast and Needtobuildmuscle's Muscle Replenisher Muscle Replenisher.
Muscle Replenisher has everything you need from creatine (which is all that is really in Cell Mass) and glucose/maltodextrin (which isn't in Cell Mass) for probably less that Cell Mass sells for.
If you are looking to stay on the cheap, take your cell mass mixed with some grape juice (dark not the light).
Yep, I've seen waxy maize products move more into an "Intra Workout" niche over "Post Workout"
d_rson
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There ya go. It fit there better. I would see it taking longer to get out of the system than dextrose and subsequently lasting longer than dextrose in the body - a more even insulin response. Maybe 5g creating + waxy pre-workout and 5-10g creatine w/ dextrose/glucose post. Just an idea.
I am not a big fan of too much of that pwo. I like real food. Sure I use pwo supplements. But Cellmass with some other powder is asking for my stomach to shoot stuff out fast.
And I might add this to the mix: http://www.needtobuildmuscle.net/store/Weight-Loss-Pre-Post-Workout/Muscle-Replenisher-p31.html
And I might add this to the mix: http://www.needtobuildmuscle.net/store/Weight-Loss-Pre-Post-Workout/Muscle-Replenisher-p31.html
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dan188
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Thanks for the replies. I do take waxy maize right before and during for the first 10-15 minutes of my workout because it gives me a preworkout type pump without getting me really wired feeling or making my stomach upset. I was just curious as to if it'd be of any benefit to take it postworkout with cellmass because it alleges to get to the blood faster and figured I'd try it out and see what happened.
I've never taken any dextrose, my post so far has just been a scoop or 2 of cellmass then a shake or meal 30 mins later. I know cellmass is pretty much just creatine but I'm not a fan of muscle tech really and thought it was worth a shot
I've never taken any dextrose, my post so far has just been a scoop or 2 of cellmass then a shake or meal 30 mins later. I know cellmass is pretty much just creatine but I'm not a fan of muscle tech really and thought it was worth a shot
needtogetaas
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Bro all the post work out you will ever need all in one
Muscle Replenisher
Muscle Replenisher
3.3lb 20 servings per container
Per serving
35 grams of Protein isolate
41 grams of Amino acids
22 grams of carbs
3g of creatine monohydrate
950 mg of Taurine
super electrolytes and Vitamin E complex mix
8 gm L-Glutamine
200mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
Introducing Needtobuildmuscle's latest product, Muscle Replenisher, the complete post-workout shake for maximum recovery after a hardcore, heart pounding work out. Post-workout nutrition is vital for muscle recovery and anabolism (muscle building). Getting the right nutrition at the right time could mean the difference in good results and great results.
Muscle Replenisher has all of the key ingredients to deliver muscle-building aminos and glycogen replenishment. Pure, high-quality whey protein isolate supplies the building blocks for strong, dense muscles while the fast-acting carbohydrate mix stimulates insulin response to trigger nutrition absorption into the muscles for optimum recovery and muscle fullness.
Muscle Replenisher comes in two great tasting flavors: Orange and Berry Blast.
What's in it?
Whey Protein Isolate
Whey Protein Isolate is the purest, highest quality form of whey available on the market that comes with great taste and affordability. Whey Protein Isolate is one step further purified beyond whey concentrate for pure high quality protein with virtually zero carbohydrate and fat traces. Needtobuildmuscle always uses the highest quality ingredients, and we have not sold you short with our Muscle Replenisher. With 35 high quality grams of protein per serving, you will get plenty of muscle building protein power to achieve your fitness goals.
Protein is composed of different amino acid chains. Whey is a "complete" protein, which means that the protein is composed of all of the different amino acids that the body needs to repair and build muscle tissue, as well as all other soft tissues in the body. All food contains amino acids, but not all of them are complete proteins. The most common sources of complete protein sources are meats and dairy.
Whey is derived from milk, which contains this complete protein source. The protein in milk is the substance that all new bones use for the body to fully develop and strengthen, and is also great for grown bodies to grow and strengthen as well. The supplementation of a quality protein source immediately following exercise will drastically amplify your weight training and exercise results. You need lots of bricks to build a big house, Muscle Replenisher is a nutritional foundation of stone. Get Muscle Replenisher and start building your brick house.
Carbohydrates
The carbohydrate blend in Muscle Replenisher is composed of glucose and maltodextrin. These two carbohydrates stimulate a immense response of insulin production which is key to nutrition uptake into the muscles following exercise. Insulin is the hormone responsible for opening the gates of your cells to accept nutrients for repair and growth. Inducing an insulin spike following exercise will dramatically improve strength, muscle size, muscle fullness and muscle recovery.
BCAA's
Muscle Replenisher has a generous amount of BCAA's in each serving. BCAA's, Branch Chain Amino Acids, are key amino acids that trigger anabolism and fight against catabolism. BCAA's are found in most protein chains. Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine are the three amino acids that have been shown to enhance muscle strength and recovery when supplemented in higher amounts. Muscle Replenisher contains 11 grams of these key muscle-building amino acids per serving.
Creatine
Needtobuildmuscle has included 3 grams of creatine monohyrdate per serving. If you are at all familiar with supplementation, you are aware of the benefits of taking creatine monohydrate for muscle cell volumization and strength. Creatine will increase your performance in high intensity training whether it is cardiovascular and endurance training or heavy weight training. Increased muscle size, body mass and recovery are all benefits of creatine supplementation. Natural food sources do not provide enough creatine to significantly increase performance, therefore, creatine supplementation is necessary, which is exactly why we included creatine in our Muscle Replenisher. Creatine supplementation is a virtually side-effect free way to noticeably increase performance. Creatine is non-hormonal and is completely safe to use for anyone of any age and gender in good health. The negative attention and reports of creatine use being harmful to the body in any way are completely untrue.
Creatine in the body is used to rapidly convert ADP (adenosine diphosphate) back to ATP (adenosine triphos-phate). Like ATP, creatine is essential for short duration, high intensity exercise. When muscles are used to lift weights or to perform any kind of work, ATP is broken down to ADP and energy is released. The amount of ATP stored in the muscle will only fuel a maximum effort such as lifting a weight for 10 to 15 seconds. After that, the muscle must rely on creatine to restock its supply of ATP. Creatine promotes intense lifting by replenishing the necessary energy molecule ATP. Another benefit is that creatine buffers the development of lactic acid allowing for a more enduring workout. In conclusion: by supplementing creatine, you will be able to do more reps with a given weight, or the same number with a heavier weight.
Glutamine
Glutamine is the most abundant amnio acid found in the body. It's also the most important one to supplement for various reasons. Glutamine compromises of about 65% of of the amino acids in your cells. When you get sick, your body's glutamine levels drop and causes catabolism. Supplementing with glutamine with keep your glutamine levels high, which supports maximum muscle cell size, immune system function and over all well being. Glutamine supplementation does not significantly increase anabolism or strength, but it does maximize what you already have. Glutamine deficiency will cause muscle wasting, and ensuring proper glutamine levels through supplementation will pretty much avoid this altogether.
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Alpha Lipoic Acid is a very useful compound to supplement with food. Alpha Lipoic Acid mimics the action of insulin as well as increases insulin sensitivity. It enhances nutrient uptake (amino acids and creatine too) into the muscle cells as well as decreases fat storage. All of the important factors of building a strong, lean body as far as post-workout nutrition is
concerned, Alpha Lipoic Acid enhances it. It's also a strong anti-oxidant which is good for the cardiovascular system.
Taurine
In preventing muscle fatigue and atrophy, research shows that when taurine levels in muscle fibers are decreased, as happens during exercise, so too, is the strength of those muscle fibers. Other studies show that when taurine is added to muscle fibers, muscle strength increases. In addition to increasing muscle strength, studies show that taurine supplementation can increase endurance by up to 50%, as well as reduce oxidative stress that accompanies intense exercise. In fact, taurine appears to be crucial to protect muscle cells from atrophy (reduction in size). Taurine appears to reduce fatigue by reducing levels of lactic acid in muscle and increases strength by enhancing the ability of muscle to contract faster and with more force. On top of all those benefits, taurine can also enhance muscle-cell volume by drawing water into the muscle cells, somewhat like creatine.
As you can see NTBM's Muscle Replenisher has everything you need for pre and or post work out nutrition. Everything your muscles need to Kill that sh*t and fully recover.
"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA). This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
Muscle Replenisher
Muscle Replenisher
3.3lb 20 servings per container
Per serving
35 grams of Protein isolate
41 grams of Amino acids
22 grams of carbs
3g of creatine monohydrate
950 mg of Taurine
super electrolytes and Vitamin E complex mix
8 gm L-Glutamine
200mg Alpha Lipoic Acid
Introducing Needtobuildmuscle's latest product, Muscle Replenisher, the complete post-workout shake for maximum recovery after a hardcore, heart pounding work out. Post-workout nutrition is vital for muscle recovery and anabolism (muscle building). Getting the right nutrition at the right time could mean the difference in good results and great results.
Muscle Replenisher has all of the key ingredients to deliver muscle-building aminos and glycogen replenishment. Pure, high-quality whey protein isolate supplies the building blocks for strong, dense muscles while the fast-acting carbohydrate mix stimulates insulin response to trigger nutrition absorption into the muscles for optimum recovery and muscle fullness.
Muscle Replenisher comes in two great tasting flavors: Orange and Berry Blast.
What's in it?
Whey Protein Isolate
Whey Protein Isolate is the purest, highest quality form of whey available on the market that comes with great taste and affordability. Whey Protein Isolate is one step further purified beyond whey concentrate for pure high quality protein with virtually zero carbohydrate and fat traces. Needtobuildmuscle always uses the highest quality ingredients, and we have not sold you short with our Muscle Replenisher. With 35 high quality grams of protein per serving, you will get plenty of muscle building protein power to achieve your fitness goals.
Protein is composed of different amino acid chains. Whey is a "complete" protein, which means that the protein is composed of all of the different amino acids that the body needs to repair and build muscle tissue, as well as all other soft tissues in the body. All food contains amino acids, but not all of them are complete proteins. The most common sources of complete protein sources are meats and dairy.
Whey is derived from milk, which contains this complete protein source. The protein in milk is the substance that all new bones use for the body to fully develop and strengthen, and is also great for grown bodies to grow and strengthen as well. The supplementation of a quality protein source immediately following exercise will drastically amplify your weight training and exercise results. You need lots of bricks to build a big house, Muscle Replenisher is a nutritional foundation of stone. Get Muscle Replenisher and start building your brick house.
Carbohydrates
The carbohydrate blend in Muscle Replenisher is composed of glucose and maltodextrin. These two carbohydrates stimulate a immense response of insulin production which is key to nutrition uptake into the muscles following exercise. Insulin is the hormone responsible for opening the gates of your cells to accept nutrients for repair and growth. Inducing an insulin spike following exercise will dramatically improve strength, muscle size, muscle fullness and muscle recovery.
BCAA's
Muscle Replenisher has a generous amount of BCAA's in each serving. BCAA's, Branch Chain Amino Acids, are key amino acids that trigger anabolism and fight against catabolism. BCAA's are found in most protein chains. Leucine, Isoleucine and Valine are the three amino acids that have been shown to enhance muscle strength and recovery when supplemented in higher amounts. Muscle Replenisher contains 11 grams of these key muscle-building amino acids per serving.
Creatine
Needtobuildmuscle has included 3 grams of creatine monohyrdate per serving. If you are at all familiar with supplementation, you are aware of the benefits of taking creatine monohydrate for muscle cell volumization and strength. Creatine will increase your performance in high intensity training whether it is cardiovascular and endurance training or heavy weight training. Increased muscle size, body mass and recovery are all benefits of creatine supplementation. Natural food sources do not provide enough creatine to significantly increase performance, therefore, creatine supplementation is necessary, which is exactly why we included creatine in our Muscle Replenisher. Creatine supplementation is a virtually side-effect free way to noticeably increase performance. Creatine is non-hormonal and is completely safe to use for anyone of any age and gender in good health. The negative attention and reports of creatine use being harmful to the body in any way are completely untrue.
Creatine in the body is used to rapidly convert ADP (adenosine diphosphate) back to ATP (adenosine triphos-phate). Like ATP, creatine is essential for short duration, high intensity exercise. When muscles are used to lift weights or to perform any kind of work, ATP is broken down to ADP and energy is released. The amount of ATP stored in the muscle will only fuel a maximum effort such as lifting a weight for 10 to 15 seconds. After that, the muscle must rely on creatine to restock its supply of ATP. Creatine promotes intense lifting by replenishing the necessary energy molecule ATP. Another benefit is that creatine buffers the development of lactic acid allowing for a more enduring workout. In conclusion: by supplementing creatine, you will be able to do more reps with a given weight, or the same number with a heavier weight.
Glutamine
Glutamine is the most abundant amnio acid found in the body. It's also the most important one to supplement for various reasons. Glutamine compromises of about 65% of of the amino acids in your cells. When you get sick, your body's glutamine levels drop and causes catabolism. Supplementing with glutamine with keep your glutamine levels high, which supports maximum muscle cell size, immune system function and over all well being. Glutamine supplementation does not significantly increase anabolism or strength, but it does maximize what you already have. Glutamine deficiency will cause muscle wasting, and ensuring proper glutamine levels through supplementation will pretty much avoid this altogether.
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Alpha Lipoic Acid is a very useful compound to supplement with food. Alpha Lipoic Acid mimics the action of insulin as well as increases insulin sensitivity. It enhances nutrient uptake (amino acids and creatine too) into the muscle cells as well as decreases fat storage. All of the important factors of building a strong, lean body as far as post-workout nutrition is
concerned, Alpha Lipoic Acid enhances it. It's also a strong anti-oxidant which is good for the cardiovascular system.
Taurine
In preventing muscle fatigue and atrophy, research shows that when taurine levels in muscle fibers are decreased, as happens during exercise, so too, is the strength of those muscle fibers. Other studies show that when taurine is added to muscle fibers, muscle strength increases. In addition to increasing muscle strength, studies show that taurine supplementation can increase endurance by up to 50%, as well as reduce oxidative stress that accompanies intense exercise. In fact, taurine appears to be crucial to protect muscle cells from atrophy (reduction in size). Taurine appears to reduce fatigue by reducing levels of lactic acid in muscle and increases strength by enhancing the ability of muscle to contract faster and with more force. On top of all those benefits, taurine can also enhance muscle-cell volume by drawing water into the muscle cells, somewhat like creatine.
As you can see NTBM's Muscle Replenisher has everything you need for pre and or post work out nutrition. Everything your muscles need to Kill that sh*t and fully recover.
"These statements have not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA). This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
