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Hacksquats

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Got some pretty bad facial bloat going on. Is .25 Armidex enough or should I increase to .50. Also will a diuretic really do anything - or will it just throw my system out of wack. I have already reduced sodium, and have started postasium suppliments.
Test at 100 and Equi at 200
Let me know if you have any suggestions, or if its just an unpleasant side effect that I'll have to deal with.
 
100mg of test a week? WTF? Why bother....once you remove the ester weight, you're back where you started almost.
 
Dont do ANYTHING if you got bloat.

This could and will have extrem sideeffects!
This is a needed chemical reaction so dont stop it.

THESE KIND OF MEDICINE IS FOR HEARTHILL PEOPLE, NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE.

IF YOU GOT BLOAT, then reduce your steroids. nothing else.

Hope youve done alot of cardio before, you know what kind of extrem it is to transport a few kilo blood more through your venes?

If it gets to hard, go to a doc and tell him.

Hope youll do this!


greetings
 
Hacksquats said:
Got some pretty bad facial bloat going on. Is .25 Armidex enough or should I increase to .50. Also will a diuretic really do anything - or will it just throw my system out of wack. I have already reduced sodium, and have started postasium suppliments.
Test at 100 and Equi at 200
Let me know if you have any suggestions, or if its just an unpleasant side effect that I'll have to deal with.

:rolleyes:
 
organic said:
Dont do ANYTHING if you got bloat.

This could and will have extrem sideeffects!
This is a needed chemical reaction so dont stop it.

THESE KIND OF MEDICINE IS FOR HEARTHILL PEOPLE, NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE.

IF YOU GOT BLOAT, then reduce your steroids. nothing else.

Hope youve done alot of cardio before, you know what kind of extrem it is to transport a few kilo blood more through your venes?

If it gets to hard, go to a doc and tell him.

Hope youll do this!


greetings

lol
 
organic said:
More than we, yes.

In most cases this is not true. Most doctors know very little about steroids and usage/effects. They tend to know the general information and not specifics.
 
Equi at 2 and Test Entan at 1 is pleanty and the results are great.
I think saying Test is suffienct enough for an intelligent answer.
That is if you're intelligent enough to give one.
What the hell are Hearthill People?
 
organic said:
More than we, yes.

Bwahahahahahaha!!!! Your average doctor doesn't know shit about steroids. Only that they are hormones! LOL that's like saying doctors know the best ways to put on lean muscle mass and lose bodyfat because they took a basic nutrition course. You're a tool. But it's ok we all started off ignorant and stupid from the start. You shall learn newbie. Welcome to the wonderful world of underground fitness. You're in for the ride of your life. :)
 
organic said:
Dont do ANYTHING if you got bloat.

This could and will have extrem sideeffects!
This is a needed chemical reaction so dont stop it.

THESE KIND OF MEDICINE IS FOR HEARTHILL PEOPLE, NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE.

IF YOU GOT BLOAT, then reduce your steroids. nothing else.

Hope youve done alot of cardio before, you know what kind of extrem it is to transport a few kilo blood more through your venes?

If it gets to hard, go to a doc and tell him.

Hope youll do this!


greetings

LMAO, you have to be kidding me...:FRlol:
 
bicepts101 said:


that guy would have so much red karma if i could keep blasting him

I hit him yesterday and it went from "some postive karma" to "only a little postive" :evil: , I like to be the one who throws a guy into the red lol...:D

It could be that he is actually amaf/uou/stfu mofo (the old timers will know what I mean ;) )
 
Hacksquats said:
Equi at 2 and Test Entan at 1 is pleanty and the results are great.
I think saying Test is suffienct enough for an intelligent answer.
That is if you're intelligent enough to give one.
What the hell are Hearthill People?
Bud, I've been doing this a long time. I have no idea of what "Equi at 2" means. "Test Entan at 1"?

2 What? 2cc? How many mg/ml is the product your using? How often are you using it?

Same for the test. I comes in many different mg/ml ratios.

You have no idea of what you're doing. Instead of being a smart ass look at the bottle in front of you and post what it says. Maybe someone will help you out.
 
Its easy to be a smart ass on the internet. I shouldn't write replies when I'm at work, my perception of critism tends to be a bit sensitive after a long day of eatting truckloads of shit. Anyways my apologies for distracting from the original question and for a wise ass response genarr3.
So lets return to a normal discussion after the crappy start. And the even crappier non-sensical reply about Hearthill People - wtf.
Situation----
Face is puffing like a chipmunk, water retaining on my gut - its differant than fat because its really really lose - like water. But I could be mistaken - maybe it is fat.
In referance to the test at 1 equi at 2, I was being brief and speaking my own language. Its Equipose 200mg/ml - shoot one ml, Test Etanthate 200mg/ml shoot half ml. I'll be upping the test as I conclude the Equipose.
I introduced Armidex about a week ago at .25mg, and to be honest with you I think it may be starting to work- though slightly.
Questions----
So basically want to know if I should up the armidex, or if .25 is generally assumed to be effective. In addtion to that, does anyone have any other suggestions for fighting water retention e.g,Cardio, Cutting Carbs - again I've cut back on sodium and have added potasium. I'm not going to consider cutting back on AS dosage I think its conservative enough.
At a loss here.
Thanks
 
"I was being brief and speaking my own language. Its Equipose 200mg/ml - shoot one ml, Test Etanthate 200mg/ml shoot half ml."
:confused:

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

Welcome to the wonderful world of underground fitness. You're in for the ride of your life. I am not trying to be a dick but read past post and learn. Do some searches you can go to any search engine for facial bloating and find the answer your looking for. Good luck
 
If you're retaining water it's not from 100mgs of test. That's basically a replacement dose. It's not going to armoatize to any noticable degree IMO.
.25mgs of Arimidex is typically used at doses up to 500mgs/week of test.
I would not up the Arimidex. I don't even think you need it at all.
You certainly don't need to cut back on the gear dose.

You might want to get your bodyfat tested. This could easily be fat, you may be consuming more calories then usual. EQ has an effect we call "EQ hunger".

The doses you're taking are not going to give great muscle gains, the cycle you're on would typically be used to conserve muscle on a calorie restricted diet, and it's even a light one at that. Not really much of an Anabolic effect at that low dose to justify increasing caloric intake.

You may want to post your diet for critique. If I was to take a guess, your problem lies there.
 
organic said:
Dont do ANYTHING if you got bloat.

This could and will have extrem sideeffects!
This is a needed chemical reaction so dont stop it.

THESE KIND OF MEDICINE IS FOR HEARTHILL PEOPLE, NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE.

IF YOU GOT BLOAT, then reduce your steroids. nothing else.

Hope youve done alot of cardio before, you know what kind of extrem it is to transport a few kilo blood more through your venes?

If it gets to hard, go to a doc and tell him.

Hope youll do this!

WTF???????????????
greetings

see it is info like this that confuses the shit out of newbies like me this sounds like compleate fucking bullshit.
 
Testopro one said:


see it is info like this that confuses the shit out of newbies like me this sounds like compleate fucking bullshit.
It's half truth, and doesn't apply in this situation.
 
tapoutm said:
"I was being brief and speaking my own language. Its Equipose 200mg/ml - shoot one ml, Test Etanthate 200mg/ml shoot half ml."
:confused:

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

Do some searches you can go to any search engine for facial bloating and find the answer your looking for. Good luck
the time it took you to write that, u coulda wrote this man some advice...he came here, why be pushed to a search engine?
 
I think setting the clocks back is getting us pissy. Its all good - arguments are said to boost testosterone levels. Bring it on assholes!! jk
Anyways genarr3 I gotta admit I think you're right. I'm in fat denial. I figured I should eat a ton while on this. What I've done is over ate, confused water retention for fat gain, whild simutaneously underdosing myself and taking unessary anti-estrogen medication. What a shitty perdicament to be in ehhh.
This is the whole reason I come on here - for another perspective - sure you risk having your pants pulled down and your puny dick laughed at - but you get some good shit. Plus it provides for cheap entertainment for fellow readers.

I will get my diet into shape ( don't want to post it - its awful)
Increase the test and save the Armidex for when I really need it.

Thanks for the advice - problem solved (I think).
 
Organic you have to be one of the funniest guys on here...I hope you and your entertaining posts are around for a long time. LOL heartwill people... LMFAO. Is this Fez from the 70's show?

Hacksquats, you're a dumb shit and asking others for advice because you are too lazy to figure it out for yourself. How the fuck would any one know what 2 of eq means? You think Genarr's post was a flame? Stick around.
 
Hacksquat, did you just try and give me red karma? LOL too bad you can't give me red you dipshit. Here is how its done.
 
Young lady?? LOL, good one. Oh no, not more of that potent "red" karma. Hahahahahahaha.

Next time learn about AAS before you stick yourself with 2 of eq and 1 of test.
 
yeah...fuckhead who do you think you are giving me red karma, as well as some other bros whose company i happen to enjoy! i tried sticking up for you as well...newbies complain they cant get solid info, and its cuz of little shits like you being fuckin ignorant!
 
See that was a much more tactful way of calling me a dipshit without actually saying it. Anyways sorry to the members who are seeking actual info - I should not have posted an argument on a board. You guys come here looking for info and don't need to scroll through gay arguments.
My final post on this subject -
Well just when I thought I had the problem identified as fat- I suddenly noticed a change in appearance. I stuck with the armidex and noticed my face was slimmer and my pants fit better. Turns out I'm just sensitive to test. I'm sticking with the Armidex - weighed myself for the first time in two weeks and found I dropped 5 lbs without dieting or increasing exercise.
Lesson learned - if you put on a lot water weight (regardless of AS dosage)- then you're sensitive to estrogen. My newbie conclusion is that Armidex does the trick, just need to give it two weeks.
 
Hacksquats said:
My newbie conclusion is that Armidex does the trick, just need to give it two weeks.

another great conclusion! drugs do the trick...no need to worry bout diet or exercise...nice hypothesis einstein!
 
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