Was this to much?

[Creepusmaximus]

Little asshole 9 year old was in my yard today playing with my son and others younger then himself. The kid is a bully around little kids so he was putting on his show while I was shoveling up dog pop. He had a hard plastic bat in his hands attacking the trees and beating a sand bucket to death. I walk by him and he takes a swing at me missing by maybe an inch or two. I say, "hit me with that bat and I will hit you with this shovel". About a minute later I walk by him and he takes a full swing at me. Hits me in the arm so I turned the shovel over and hit him in the ass about as hard as I could. He starts crying and runs towards home.

Was that to much? I guess I could have grabbed him and had a talk with dad but I'm not really geared for that. BTW dad realizes his son is an asshole.

 

[javaguru]

Little asshole 9 year old was in my yard today playing with my son and others younger then himself. The kid is a bully around little kids so he was putting on his show while I was shoveling up dog pop. He had a hard plastic bat in his hands attacking the trees and beating a sand bucket to death. I walk by him and he takes a swing at me missing by maybe an inch or two. I say, "hit me with that bat and I will hit you with this shovel". About a minute later I walk by him and he takes a full swing at me. Hits me in the arm so I turned the shovel over and hit him in the ass about as hard as I could. He starts crying and runs towards home.

Was that to much? I guess I could have grabbed him and had a talk with dad but I'm not really geared for that. BTW dad realizes his son is an asshole.

Awesome... Instant karma is a bitch....

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Well, I think you taught him a great lesson. I hope you don't get thrown in jail.

 

[borris]

too much, that's how kids are, it's not your right to try and teach kids a lesson with eye for an eye (violence), that's his/her parents job

 

[nefertiti]

too much, that's how kids are, it's not your right to try and teach kids a lesson with eye for an eye (violence), that's his/her parents job

exactly...not your job. and a bitch move, honestly...

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Well, I think you taught him a great lesson. I hope you don't get thrown in jail.

That's what is making me think it was a little to much. I'm sure I didn't leave marks. LOL.

Want to hear another story? Will call bad kid Z. Well Z had a bad habit of kicking balls in peoples faces. Z kicked a ball and hit C in the face with it. C calmly gets the ball walks up to Z and throws it right in his face. Z then goes to punch C. C grabbed Z arm twisting it till Z was on the ground with tears coming out of his eyes. Z figuring he was defeated then comes whining to me. I said "you kicked him the face with a ball right?" Yes. "He then hit you in the face with the ball, right?" yes.You were mad so you were going to punch him, right?" Yes. Then he twisted your arm to stop you from punching him, right?" Yes. "You got what you deserved, what do you think I'm going to do?" He went off told his Dad who said the same thing as me.

The kid is just an asshole. His Mom was on a swim team so she signed him up for a swim team and became a coach. He was kicked off the team and she was stuck still coaching. LOL.

It goes on and on.

 

[borris]

I don't have kids, but if i'd ever see someone violently laying their hands on my dog because she scratched someone by accident, I would be the shit outta that person.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Forgot about a couple others. He threw his younger brother down a flight of stairs. He almost drowned his younger cousin in a pool. Pushed her down in the deep part of a hot tube and she couldn't swim. Relative grabbed her out. He pushed her down and she didn't come back up. He didn't care one bit. Every dog in the neighbor has bitten him. Nice dogs but he does bad things to them. His own dogs have bitten him many times for reason.

 

[borris]

so talk to his parents then and if you're really upset about those things, then get in their face about it

 

[Creepusmaximus]

I don't have kids, but if i'd ever see someone violently laying their hands on my dog because she scratched someone by accident, I would be the shit outta that person.

What do you mean accident? He hit me on purpose and had time to think it out.

I once saw him look around and he thought no one was watching. Him and his brother were moving a small table and some chairs. When he thought no was watching, he hit his brother over the head with the table and then kicked while he was on the ground. The best part is he then ran about 10 feet a way from his brother and acted like he had know idea what happened to his brother.

This kid thinks this shit out.

 

[javaguru]

so talk to his parents then and if you're really upset about those things, then get in their face about it

Sure, one should always approach the parents about bad behavior but if the previous post is true then the kid needs some serious intervention or the parents don't give a shit.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Sounds like the kid is on the road to becoming a serial killer. Counciling might help if implemented soon.
I wouldn't let that bastard on my property.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

so talk to his parents then and if you're really upset about those things, then get in their face about it

Realtives have said they were not invited to parties because of the way their kids act. I have banned Z many times from my yard but he lives next door.

 

[borris]

it might be where I come from or whatever bro, but putting your hands on someone elses kids is a big no no

 

[javaguru]

Realtives have said they were not invited to parties because of the way their kids act. I have banned Z many times from my yard but he lives next door.

You could always call the cops for trespassing but I don't know how that would go over.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Sounds like the kid is on the road to becoming a serial killer. Counciling might help if implemented soon.
I wouldn't let that bastard on my property.

I seriously think he is headed for jail. He has always been a little asshole. He also has no respect for anything.

 

[borris]

Sure, one should always approach the parents about bad behavior but if the previous post is true then the kid needs some serious intervention or the parents don't give a shit.

putting a kid in a discipline program is still the parents job not the neighbors and if the parents don't care and the 9 yo's behavior is THAT out of hand then you should contact the police

 

[Creepusmaximus]

You could always call the cops for trespassing but I don't know how that would go over.

Can't do that. Younger brother is the same age and plays with my son all the time. Z does know he is not welcome in my yard and usually stays away.

 

[nefertiti]

im with borris....dont care out of hand the kid is, putting your hands on another person's child is not cool.

 

[javaguru]

putting a kid in a discipline program is still the parents job not the neighbors

It doesn't sound like the parents don't give a shit. If he has been diggered then a few calls to the authorities might get a mediation but nothing will probably come of it. I'm a libertarian, if you're a douchebag on my property and I ask you nicely to behave or leave and you don't then I should have the right to kick your ass.

 

[borris]

It doesn't sound like the parents don't give a shit. If he has been diggered then a few calls to the authorities might get a mediation but nothing will probably come of it. I'm a libertarian, if you're a douchebag on my property and I ask you nicely to behave or leave and you don't then I should have the right to kick your ass.

he's 9

 

[nefertiti]

he's 9

exactly....gimme a break...

 

[javaguru]

he's 9

Jeffrey Dahmer was 9 once......

 

[Creepusmaximus]

it might be where I come from or whatever bro, but putting your hands on someone elses kids is a big no no

Where I come from someone hits you with a bat and your holding a shovel. You kill them with the shovel and then piss on them just to make sure everyone knows not to try that again.

Problem is that would be among equals. That's trouble part. Why on Earth would a 9 year old have the balls to go after an adult like that. Like I said he had time to think it out and he wasn't playing.

What would you do?

 

[nefertiti]

Where I come from someone hits you with a bat and your holding a shovel. You kill them with the shovel and then piss on them just to make sure everyone knows not to try that again.

Problem is that would be among equals. That's trouble part. Why on Earth would a 9 year old have the balls to go after an adult like that. Like I said he had time to think it out and he wasn't playing.

What would you do?

lol dude it was a plastic bat.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

It doesn't sound like the parents don't give a shit. If he has been diggered then a few calls to the authorities might get a mediation but nothing will probably come of it. I'm a libertarian, if you're a douchebag on my property and I ask you nicely to behave or leave and you don't then I should have the right to kick your ass.

The parents do care but he is not controlable. He just does this shit all the time. His two younger brothers don't act like that at all.

 

[javaguru]

Where I come from someone hits you with a bat and your holding a shovel. You kill them with the shovel and then piss on them just to make sure everyone knows not to try that again.

Problem is that would be among equals. That's trouble part. Why on Earth would a 9 year old have the balls to go after an adult like that. Like I said he had time to think it out and he wasn't playing.

What would you do?

He would smoke a blunt with the dad and everything would be ok.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

He would smoke a blunt with the dad and everything would be ok.

Z's Dad smokes a bunch of dope. Dad is a really mellow guy except he freaks out once in a while when the kids are going nuts. Once in a while you just hear screaming. It's kind of funny. "What did I just say".

BTW plastic bat or not it's the thought that counts.

 

[borris]

Jeffrey Dahmer was 9 once......

bad analogy, you can't predict kids at that age, many kids are interested in disecting animals and the anatomy of things. Most turn out to be docters, vets, dentists, ect. not serial killers

and if you could predict the future for 9yo's, then lil jeffrey should've went to a ditention home, not taking disciplinary shots from his neighbor

 

[nefertiti]

Z's Dad smokes a bunch of dope. Dad is a really mellow guy except he freaks out once in a while when the kids are going nuts. Once in a while you just hear screaming. It's kind of funny. "What did I just say".

BTW plastic bat or not it's the thought that counts.

Not really....obviously the kid knows its plastic and will do minimal damage...no doubt he's got issues but frankly I think you do, too....physically disciplining a kid that isnt your own is not acceptable behavior from an adult. Doesn't matter what a terror he is, it's simply not within your rights.

 

[javaguru]

bad analogy, you can't predict kids at that age, many kids are interested in disecting animals and the anatomy of things. Most turn out to be docters, vets, dentists, ect. not serial killers

and if you could predict the future for 9yo's, then lil jeffrey should've went to a ditention home, not taking shots from his neighbor for discipline

All the shady bully types I went to high school with went on to be shady bully adults; I don't think it was a coincidence. I've never met anyone that enjoyed torturing animals that grew up to be a vet, quite the opposite. They found the dissection part of vet school the most disturbing.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Not really....obviously the kid knows its plastic and will do minimal damage...no doubt he's got issues but frankly I think you do, too....physically disciplining a kid that isnt your own is not acceptable behavior from an adult. Doesn't matter what a terror he is, it's simply not within your rights.

Your probably right. You have to understand that I really don't like being touch by anyone I'm not planning to fuck. I am aware of that probably being not a great trait to have. My mind does click into a bad mode when I'm touched or worse yet hit with something. I once was given gas at the dentist for a filling and you should have seen that. All of a sudden I was fucked up and people were hanging over me with stuff going on in my mouth. End result was I freaked, reached up grabbed the hygeneist by the throat, tossed the dentist across the room and headed out the door. Came back to my senses in the hallway and let go of the chick. No gas for me because that seriously scared me. I really could of hurt someone because i simply had to go and I was going to do whatever it took to leave.

Plastic bat or not something clicked in my mind. That's why I posted this to see what all you think.

I don't come from the best hood BTW.

 

[borris]

All the shady bully types I went to high school with went on to be shady bully adults; I don't think it was a coincidence. I've never met anyone that enjoyed torturing animals that grew up to be a vet, quite the opposite. They found the dissection part of vet school the most disturbing.

Funny, most of the bully's from my old school are still are living with their parents in my highschool hometown working just above minimum wage. Maybe due to lack of parenting skills? Maybe due to lack of parenting ignorance? Maybe due to lack of the parents pushing them to get good grades and be successful? Most likely one of those three.. But to me it's irrelevant if they are still bully's nowadays because I am successful and they are not. Success is the best revenge.

And still there are millions of children that don't know how to act around animals, this is also due to bad parenting or the parents being completely ignorant to the signs and not doing anything about it.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

bad analogy, you can't predict kids at that age, many kids are interested in disecting animals and the anatomy of things. Most turn out to be docters, vets, dentists, ect. not serial killers

and if you could predict the future for 9yo's, then lil jeffrey should've went to a ditention home, not taking disciplinary shots from his neighbor

I think your dead wrong. We have another kid B on my street. He's 5 and has violent events about once a week. The thing there is B just has a temper and he is young. He gets pissed off and he'll kick or punch someone. The thing with Z is he thinks out what he is going to do ahead of time. He looks at every situation as what can I destory or who can I beat up. He has a plan. He has no respect for anyone or anything.

Big difference between B and Z.

 

[javaguru]

Not really....obviously the kid knows its plastic and will do minimal damage...no doubt he's got issues but frankly I think you do, too....physically disciplining a kid that isnt your own is not acceptable behavior from an adult. Doesn't matter what a terror he is, it's simply not within your rights.

When you're the only adult on your property then it is.

 

[borris]

I think your dead wrong. We have another kid B on my street. He's 5 and has violent events about once a week. The thing there is B just has a temper and he is young. He gets pissed off and he'll kick or punch someone. The thing with Z is he thinks out what he is going to do ahead of time. He looks at every situation as what can I destory or who can I beat up. He has a plan. He has no respect for anyone or anything.

Big difference between B and Z.

Most of it has to do with parenting bro, it's that simple.... If the parents don't get envolved then the kid should be put in DH so somebody can put a legal disciplinary action on them. It's not the job of neighbors to get physical, that won't do anything, because if a kid is that bad he's not going to change just because one pedestrian put him in his place one time

 

[crazyjoe]

Little bastard sounds like he needs to be put in some type of boot camp.

 

[ceo]

I think if his parents want to press charges, you're heading to jail. I think they sound like the kind of people that might see an opportunity to cash in and sue your ass. They are probably in the ER with their kid now. And believe me, you'll go to jail. Your "he hit me first" 5 yr. old defense will NOT work in a court of law. I don't care what neighborhood you came from either.

You didn't just "flip" either, otherwise you wouldn't have had the sense to turn the shovel over and hit him on the ass. Does the kid need to be beat? Yeah, definitely! Is it your job? Hell fuckin no dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? You should've taken him to his parents right away. What they do is their business. Obviously the kid isn't "banned" from your yard as you say, because he was IN IT! Nice. The ONLY time it is ok to discipline a kid who is not yours is if you have the parents' permission to do so while the child is in your care, AND you know god damn well beyond a shadow that the parents made sure the kid knows this, AND they're not the type to EVER call the cops or sue you as long as you are disciplining their kid in the manner they have said is acceptable (in other words, you pretty much never will have these circumstances anymore these days).

The only thing you should've done a LONG time ago was call CPS on his neglegent parents. If his parents aren't going to discipline him and he has done all these things you say, then CPS should get involved and take the little fucker away.

Quite frankly, this little shit sounds like so many of the spoiled little shits you see running around today, and it's all thanks to their neglegent dipshit parents who never should've procreated in the first place.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

This is where it gets more twisted. The reason I know they weren't invited to family events was because I was. I'm a friend of the neighbors grandfather and my family and I were invited to a family outing which the neighbors weren't invited. Grandfather has 6 childern and is rich. One of his houses is worth about 6 million up on the ocean in Hilton Head. He owns something like 10 planes. i know one of his favorites is a WWII bomber. Why is this important? He is the only reason my neighbors can afford to live in my neighborhood. He paid a large down payment for the house, pays for daycare and many other things. I'm I going to jail? Don't think so. Grandfather saw Z try to drown cousin and was not happy about that. Vocally not happy. This isn't some radom family next door, about an 8 year history at this point. We also get invited to the other 5 childerns party etc.

Gets a little more tricky along the way.

 

[ceo]

This is where it gets more twisted. The reason I know they weren't invited to family events was because I was. I'm a friend of the neighbors grandfather and my family and I were invited to a family outing which the neighbors weren't invited. Grandfather has 6 childern and is rich. One of his houses is worth about 6 million up on the ocean in Hilton Head. He owns something like 10 planes. i know one of his favorites is a WWII bomber. Why is this important? He is the only reason my neighbors can afford to live in my neighborhood. He paid a large down payment for the house, pays for daycare and many other things. I'm I going to jail? Don't think so. Grandfather saw Z try to drown cousin and was not happy about that. Vocally not happy. This isn't some radom family next door, about an 8 year history at this point. We also get invited to the other 5 childerns party etc.

Gets a little more tricky along the way.

All the parents have to do is call the cops bro. Can the grandfather persuade them to not press charges? Yeah, probably. Could you be arrested in the meantime? Yeah, probably.

All in all, even though it felt good to do it...probably not the smartest thing to do. I wouldn't recommend making a habit of these kinds of things.

 

[Cutiebaby]

Dude he is only 9 years old. Not that I am making excuses for this kid, cause I would kick my sons ass if he ever disrespected someone like that. However you are a grown man lead by example. What example were you trying to set, that it is ok to hit with a shovel and not a plastic bat?!? Basically u just brought yourself down to a lil bastards level, and honestly he probably cried for a few minutes and then found satisfaction in it all!! Another thing is that children that age get their behaviors from somewhere whether it be parents, or television shows. It is their parents job to discipline that child. If you ever hit my child on the ass with a shovel I would chop you up into little pieces and serve you in a stew to homeless people!!!!! With that being said best thing would have been to ask the kid to go home in a stern serious tone, then went ahead to his house and had a word with his father meanwhile telling daddy that the bastard is no longer allowed on your property or legal action would begin! Better to have gone to an adult and acted as an adult rather than to act 9 years old and have a fight under an elm tree with a child...Get my point?

 

[nefertiti]

When you're the only adult on your property then it is.

No java...it really isn't. You're the adult. You should have more restraint and control over yourself than that. It's a child. Not another adult. A child. it's never your place, ever, to put your hands on another person's kid unless you are perhaps restraining the child from hurting someone. But restraint does not equal hitting a child with a shovel. Under no circumstances is that actually ok.

 

[nefertiti]

Dude he is only 9 years old. Not that I am making excuses for this kid, cause I would kick my sons ass if he ever disrespected someone like that. However you are a grown man lead by example. What example were you trying to set, that it is ok to hit with a shovel and not a plastic bat?!? Basically u just brought yourself down to a lil bastards level, and honestly he probably cried for a few minutes and then found satisfaction in it all!! Another thing is that children that age get their behaviors from somewhere whether it be parents, or television shows. It is their parents job to discipline that child. If you ever hit my child on the ass with a shovel I would chop you up into little pieces and serve you in a stew to homeless people!!!!! With that being said best thing would have been to ask the kid to go home in a stern serious tone, then went ahead to his house and had a word with his father meanwhile telling daddy that the bastard is no longer allowed on your property or legal action would begin! Better to have gone to an adult and acted as an adult rather than to act 9 years old and have a fight under an elm tree with a child...Get my point?

Exactly...he behaved like a kid with no control himself. it's frankly embarrassing for him, in my opinion, that he couldn't behave better than a nine year old troublemaker. Big tough guy over here.

 

[silverstar1025]

too much, that's how kids are, it's not your right to try and teach kids a lesson with eye for an eye (violence), that's his/her parents job

Exactly! I am surprised his dad has not come over to hit you with a shovel yet.

 

[jack sparrow]

Oh cool, silverstar has entered the thread

 

[silverstar1025]

Oh cool, silverstar has entered the thread

wtf is your problem? I have a shovel here waiting for you!

 

[redshirt27se]

kid sounds like a little bastard



that said i would never hit another persons kid, let alone with a shovel. thats just asking for trouble.


if i had kids, and my child came running into my home crying and said "xxx's dad just hit me with a shovel" I'd be REALLY pissed off, and probably fuck up said person.

 

[gettin_big]

I'd be pretty pissed if someone hit my kid, but my kid knows better to not be swinging a bat at someone. And if they did and i knew/saw/heard about it. I'd beat my kids ass.

I would prefer the parent to talk to me about it.

If it was someone elses kid who did it to me. I would talk to the parent and tell the parent there kid isn't allowed at my home unless he can act in a responsible manner.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Z update. Talked to dad. I said Z was running around out of control and this is what happened. Dad said" I knew he made up a story to make himself look good." Then Dad went on to say that Z had gone nuts at his cousins house that night at a sleep over and ended up locked in a room for an hour. Cousins father did that. The constructive part of this is his Dad noticed something. When cousin D is around Z, Z goes into a violent rampage. D is not violent but something happens to Z when he's around. Once Dad said that i do notice the pattern so at least there is something to work on.

Sorry people who were going to send me hate mail in jail but this kid is a bad one and everyone knows it.

Z story of the day. Big kids, Z hides. My son and a couple of his friends wanted to try and climb the magnolia in my front yard. I said yes because that's why I planted them. Good climbing tree, birds love them too. Well that attracted a crowd. All of a sudden there are 10 kids in my front yard to climb the tree and here comes Z. Don't know what Z said or did but J who is bigger then him jump right on top of Z and didn't let him up. Think I saved Z? Hell no. J let him up after a good face in the dirt pin down. Nice. Z then went to hang out by himself in some trees in his yard. Everything is fine if some bigger kids are around, they smack him down when ever he gets out of line.

Z is a classic bully with I have know idea what else goes on in his mind.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Before you feel bad for poor Z you need to know one thing. I watched as Z took a thomas the train ( metal, train) and threw it in J's face. Hit him right between the eyes. J has some pay back in mind I think. That was from about 3 years ago. Z has wronged everyone and every animal on this street.

 

[Smurfy]

Little asshole 9 year old was in my yard today playing with my son and others younger then himself. The kid is a bully around little kids so he was putting on his show while I was shoveling up dog pop. He had a hard plastic bat in his hands attacking the trees and beating a sand bucket to death. I walk by him and he takes a swing at me missing by maybe an inch or two. I say, "hit me with that bat and I will hit you with this shovel". About a minute later I walk by him and he takes a full swing at me. Hits me in the arm so I turned the shovel over and hit him in the ass about as hard as I could. He starts crying and runs towards home.

Was that to much? I guess I could have grabbed him and had a talk with dad but I'm not really geared for that. BTW dad realizes his son is an asshole.

a grown man hitting a child with a shovel? uh, yeah Id call that inappropriate and an over reaction

 

[Smurfy]

Sure, one should always approach the parents about bad behavior but if the previous post is true then the kid needs some serious intervention or the parents don't give a shit.

again, although you may be right, it's not his place to do the "intervention" and especially in hitting him with a shovel. if the kid is as bad as he says, Id not allow him near or on my property. that solves the problem.

 

[javaguru]

again, although you may be right, it's not his place to do the "intervention" and especially in hitting him with a shovel. if the kid is as bad as he says, Id not allow him near or on my property. that solves the problem.

Sure, I would definitely ban him but that's not to say he would respect a banning and he sounds like the kind of kid that wouldn't.

 

[nefertiti]

Before you feel bad for poor Z you need to know one thing. I watched as Z took a thomas the train ( metal, train) and threw it in J's face. Hit him right between the eyes. J has some pay back in mind I think. That was from about 3 years ago. Z has wronged everyone and every animal on this street.

I don't think anyone's disputing the kid having issues...it's still not your kid, and hitting him with a shovel is still a bitch move. You're the adult, act like it.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

I don't think anyone's disputing the kid having issues...it's still not your kid, and hitting him with a shovel is still a bitch move. You're the adult, act like it.

I know it was over the top and that's why I asked what you all thought. Bitch move? I don't know about that. You haven't had to deal with this asshole for the last 9 years. When I see him I seriously can't do anything but watch the kids, my yard or not. When the older kids show up I don't have to watch any more. Have you ever watched kids for years on end? It sucks. There is no fucking reason I should have to watch the kids every minute because of this little dangerous asshole.

 

[Cal_21]

im with borris....dont care out of hand the kid is, putting your hands on another person's child is not cool.

Someone on my street was shot dead in their yard a few years back, nearly identical situation. The parents of that kid weren't as understanding apparently. Not some weird threat or judgment on my end; I think someone needed to teach the kid a lesson. Just saying you might want to think twice about guess putting hands on another's little ones.

 

[javaguru]

Someone on my street was shot dead in their yard a few years back, nearly identical situation. The parents of that kid weren't as understanding apparently. Not some weird threat or judgment on my end; I think someone needed to teach the kid a lesson. Just saying you might want to think twice about guess putting hands on another's little ones.

Sounds like a stand up parent right there.

 

[LuluDeren]

I think if his parents want to press charges, you're heading to jail. I think they sound like the kind of people that might see an opportunity to cash in and sue your ass. They are probably in the ER with their kid now. And believe me, you'll go to jail. Your "he hit me first" 5 yr. old defense will NOT work in a court of law. I don't care what neighborhood you came from either.

You didn't just "flip" either, otherwise you wouldn't have had the sense to turn the shovel over and hit him on the ass. Does the kid need to be beat? Yeah, definitely! Is it your job? Hell fuckin no dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? You should've taken him to his parents right away. What they do is their business. Obviously the kid isn't "banned" from your yard as you say, because he was IN IT! Nice. The ONLY time it is ok to discipline a kid who is not yours is if you have the parents' permission to do so while the child is in your care, AND you know god damn well beyond a shadow that the parents made sure the kid knows this, AND they're not the type to EVER call the cops or sue you as long as you are disciplining their kid in the manner they have said is acceptable (in other words, you pretty much never will have these circumstances anymore these days).

The only thing you should've done a LONG time ago was call CPS on his neglegent parents. If his parents aren't going to discipline him and he has done all these things you say, then CPS should get involved and take the little fucker away.

Quite frankly, this little shit sounds like so many of the spoiled little shits you see running around today, and it's all thanks to their neglegent dipshit parents who never should've procreated in the first place.

I concur. I also think you will be damn lucky to avoid charges.

 

[Cal_21]

Sounds like a stand up parent right there.

lol, I'm not advocating "busting caps" & what not. Just saying, this is something that happens. It's just another reason to avoid said behavior.

 

[mountain muscle]

lmao at everyone saying it is a no no. You should have hit the little shit in the head. Obviously the parents aren't doing enough.

He just needs a few good beatings.

Good work.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Sure, I would definitely ban him but that's not to say he would respect a banning and he sounds like the kind of kid that wouldn't.

I've banned him a couple of times but he comes back down the road sometime. Like I said my son plays with his brother and the other kids on my street. We counted up the kids up and we have 22 kids 12 and under. That's what we do in my hood. There are no old people and there are no single people. Lots are 3/4 to 1 acre and people move here to raise childern. What happens on the weekend is all the kids roam around until they find where the other kids are and something is going on. Like today. The kids saw tree climbing going on so in they came. Next weekend someone may get out fishing poles and they'll be off to fish.

When 10-12 kids show up in a matter of minutes it's hard to pick one out and say "you have to leave because your an asshole". Can't say that if the group happens to end up in someone elses yard which happens all the time. They simply look up and down the street looking for action then they head for it. Set up a ramp to jump over and they will all show up. LOL.

 

[billfred]

Creeps - here is my take. I am 44 and a father of 3.

1) Nobody should touch my kids for ANY reason. It they have a problem, please come see me. I am happy to beat their little asses when needed but again that is my job and nobody elses.

2) Nobody should ever verbally repremand my kids in front of me. It is ok if I am not around but you do it in front of me and you are disrespecting me as a parent - we would have words.

The Father obviously has issues. Stoner from a rich family - go figure. The fact that he has not come to chew your ass out already speaks volumes for his parenting ability.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Creeps - here is my take. I am 44 and a father of 3.

1) Nobody should touch my kids for ANY reason. It they have a problem, please come see me. I am happy to beat their little asses when needed but again that is my job and nobody elses.

2) Nobody should ever verbally repremand my kids in front of me. It is ok if I am not around but you do it in front of me and you are disrespecting me as a paran - we would have words.

The Father obviously has issues. Stoner from a rich family - go figure. The fact that he has not come to chew your ass out already speaks volumes for his parenting ability.

I went to him. He's a hillbilly from West Virginia. Wife is from the rich side. The rich side made their money in questionable ways BTW.

 

[mountain muscle]

Creeps - here is my take. I am 44 and a father of 3.

1) Nobody should touch my kids for ANY reason. It they have a problem, please come see me. I am happy to beat their little asses when needed but again that is my job and nobody elses.

2) Nobody should ever verbally repremand my kids in front of me. It is ok if I am not around but you do it in front of me and you are disrespecting me as a parent - we would have words.

The Father obviously has issues. Stoner from a rich family - go figure. The fact that he has not come to chew your ass out already speaks volumes for his parenting ability.

I understand your point and I have trouble believing your kids act anywhere near this kid's behavior.

However, part of learning to respect people and play nice is knowing that you are responsible to to more than just your parents.

The little shit in question needs some serious work and the parents aren't providing it.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

I understand your point and I have trouble believing your kids act anywhere near this kid's behavior.

However, part of learning to respect people and play nice is knowing that you are responsible to to more than just your parents.

The little shit in question needs some serious work and the parents aren't providing it.

Z once told me to shut up in front of his father and mother. I was talking to them about whatever and he decided to tell me to shut up. Think he was probably half beaten to death over that. Z was all yes sir, no sir for a few months. No idea why he would say that. i think he just has it out for me. LOL.

No one has said one word of how to deal with this kid. That's because you don't have to deal with him. If you were here I'm sure your ass kissing tude would go away fast.

 

[mountain muscle]

Z once told me to shut up in front of his father and mother. I was talking to them about whatever and he decided to tell me to shut up. Think he was probably half beaten to death over that. Z was all yes sir, no sir for a few months. No idea why he would say that. i think he just has it out for me. LOL.

No one has said one word of how to deal with this kid. That's because you don't have to deal with him. If you were here I'm sure your ass kissing tude would go away fast.

I seriously doubt it. wait, ass kissing tude?

 

[Creepusmaximus]

I seriously doubt it. wait, ass kissing tude?

No, for real. Same reason school officals came by their house to have Z's Mom sign a handbook about school policy. Yes they showed up to make sure that Z's family was aware of school policy and actions that will be takening.

Back to Z was thrown off the swim team while his mom was a coach.

 

[Lestat]

i'm not gonna get condecending on you, but I wouldn't have done that. I don't think physical violence (even when it proves a really good point) is a healthy thing for children.

But then again, I'm not a parent, so I do not speak from any sort of real world experience.

 

[ceo]

No one has said one word of how to deal with this kid. That's because you don't have to deal with him. If you were here I'm sure your ass kissing tude would go away fast.

Um, yeah actually...I think a couple of us have. I KNOW I did. Go read my post again. I said what would've been best way to deal with him right then and there, and then I said what you should've done a long time ago (call CPS).

You also just said how "Z's" dad beat him half to death when the kid told you to shut up in front of his dad. So, it sounds like "Z" does get some form of discipline, but it is obviously not effective on this kid. As a matter of fact, maybe "Z" gets beaten regularly "half to death" by his stoner dad and that's why "Z" thinks any kind of violence is perfectly acceptable in any situation. Hmm...think maybe it might be a good time to call CPS?

 

[billfred]

Z once told me to shut up in front of his father and mother. I was talking to them about whatever and he decided to tell me to shut up. Think he was probably half beaten to death over that. Z was all yes sir, no sir for a few months. No idea why he would say that. i think he just has it out for me. LOL.

No one has said one word of how to deal with this kid. That's because you don't have to deal with him. If you were here I'm sure your ass kissing tude would go away fast.

For how you should have dealt with this, I think it always goes back to how you would have wanted your child treated in the same situation. I think your answer would be, if it was your son, you would have wanted to be notified and would not want him harmed in any way, regardless of the situation.

What do you think?

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Um, yeah actually...I think a couple of us have. I KNOW I did. Go read my post again. I said what would've been best way to deal with him right then and there, and then I said what you should've done a long time ago (call CPS).

You also just said how "Z's" dad beat him half to death when the kid told you to shut up in front of his dad. So, it sounds like "Z" does get some form of discipline, but it is obviously not effective on this kid. As a matter of fact, maybe "Z" gets beaten regularly "half to death" by his stoner dad and that's why "Z" thinks any kind of violence is perfectly acceptable in any situation. Hmm...think maybe it might be a good time to call CPS?

What is CPS? I had no contact with a child for probably 30 years until they handed me my first one. Don't be using initials becuase I have no idea what they are. My kids aren't in school yet so I have no idea about school terms either.

 

[LuluDeren]

Child Protective Services.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

So I call CPS and tell them what? I think the maid, lanscaper, pool guy and handyman are doing a bad job? Also the houses are big here and spaced far apart there is no way to tell anything about what goes on inside. Short of someone firing up a chainsaw in the living room you could never tell what is going on. The only reason I know they smoke dope over there is if the wind is blowing my way and I happen to be letting the dogs out.

 

[ceo]

So I call CPS and tell them what? I think the maid, lanscaper, pool guy and handyman are doing a bad job? Also the houses are big here and spaced far apart there is no way to tell anything about what goes on inside. Short of someone firing up a chainsaw in the living room you could never tell what is going on. The only reason I know they smoke dope over there is if the wind is blowing my way and I happen to be letting the dogs out.

Well you sure told us a whole hell of a lot...unless it was bullshit? Anything like that (kid possibly getting beaten half to death, kid tormenting other kids and animals, parents smoking weed in presence of kid, just plain negligent parents, etc.), CPS would be interested in any of that. They should at least investigate it.