War Protests.....

[Citruscide]

I don't understand people... it is a bit "late" to protest this thing. Now it is a time for the country to kinda get together? Support our troops over there? I mean, they are OUR guys over there... fighting... for whatever reason... I don't like the message that people are sending that our guys are going to die for something that is bullshit...

If they are going to die, let's support the fucking thing they are fighting for...

If someone knows a protest that is going on in Chicago, and the address... give me the fucking address, I will go down there and fucking tell the Goddam wackos to go the fuck home...

C-ditty

 

[theoak01]

I totally agree,There are Iraqi's and activists at my work who bitch about this daily,last night I told them to shut the fuck up

 

[MrMuscle]

doesnt it remind you of something?
i really hope the vets that get back arent threated as the vietnam vets!

 

[theoak01]

would you be suprised?

 

[Citruscide]

doesnt it remind you of something?
i really hope the vets that get back arent threated as the vietnam vets!

I really hope not too dude....

But I mean... shit. We are going to LOSE some guys this time... not like the 50 guys who died in Desert Storm because water heaters blew up or helicopters crashed... we are going to lose guys because they are blown up by artillery, missles, God-awful shit...

Believe it or not... those guys belive in what America stands for... they are over there fighting for it. They are over there FIGHTING for us... whether you believe in it or not... they believe in America. I'm going to be damned if I'm not going to support them 100%...

C-ditty

 

[gettinlarger]

Good fuckin post man. I'm tired of seeing these assholes all over protesting. If you find any, kick some ass for me.

 

[The Ranger]

There were two fights in my club last night due to three college students protesting the war....rather loud and vulgar....a few good ole boyz showed them the light, before we could *hustle* and break it up....<wink>

Ranger

 

[Sinistar]

much like with the war, i think our support means dick. but yea, they arent over there cause they want to be.

 

[Citruscide]

Our support means everything to our soilders.

C-ditty

 

[Bikini Mod]

I am greatly saddened by war and feel that it is STUPID... I don't have words to express what I feel. I have children and NEVER EVER thought that I would be faced with such feelings....

BUT - I would never EVER degrade, insult or shame a serviceman or woman. It is because of them that I have not had to have such feelings... It was because of them that I have been able to grow up in a bubble... I have nothing but the most intense respect for anyone who is unafraid and selfless... and my heart bleeds for all the mothers that will not see their children "whole" again because of the insanity of war. Whether it be loss of life or physical disability or that part of their soul has been forever removed.... I am a mother and I can not comprehend the pain.

I'm sorry... I sound so stupid.

I hate politics.

I hate stupidity.

I hate it that people can't just get the fuck over themselves and co-exist.

 

[JohnyJuice]

There are douche bag protesters on the corner of 13th and university drive here by U.F. Fuckinghippies with there signs and playinh bongo drums and shit. I make sure to throw whats left of my prtein drink at them after i leave the gym. When i am walking by these hippies i also like to tell them off. I think it is the least i can do. And i swear to God, if some of these fuckers start laying in the streets, i will get out of my truck and powerbomb them. So i swear.

 

[Sinistar]

sorry Bikini, your in the wrong thread. your in the kill em first let god sort them out crew right now. some of these ppl enjoy seeing female protesters getting manhandled by jacked up asshole cops.

 

[Frackal]

I totally agree,There are Iraqi's [] at my work who bitch about this daily,last night I told them to shut the fuck up

Maybe you should.

 

[JohnyJuice]

sorry Bikini, your in the wrong thread. your in the kill em first let god sort them out crew right now. some of these ppl enjoy seeing female protesters getting manhandled by jacked up asshole cops.

You are right. Females are incapable of resisting arrest. Have you ever bounced at a club? Some of the most vicious people i have come across are women. Getting manhandled by some jacked up asshole cops? Yeah, we should get pip squeeks out there to talk to them about their feelings instead of getting them out of the street. Do that, and watch citizens startt getting pissed and removing them by themseoves. Dont hate on cops. They are just doing the dirty work that people dont want to do themselves. Then they get shitty comments like the ones you just through out there.

P.S. dont take this as me giving you shit. You seem like a good guy, so i dont want you to get the idea i dont have an "internet hard on " for you or something. lol. Peace man.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Personally whenever anyone, man or female resists arrest I think they look foolish.

Why on earth would I NEED to get accosted by someone who not only has the ability to do physical harm BUT LAW TO BACK THEM?

I agree, that some women can be far bigger doofus idiot retards when it come to these situations and if a cop need to pop 'em in the head to get them to "see the light" then I say, "Bring it on."

 

[JohnyJuice]

Personally whenever anyone, man or female resists arrest I think they look foolish.

Why on earth would I NEED to get accosted by someone who not only has the ability to do physical harm BUT LAW TO BACK THEM?

I agree, that some women can be far bigger doofus idiot retards when it come to these situations and if a cop need to pop 'em in the head to get them to "see the light" then I say, "Bring it on."

Thank you!!! Jesus Christ, someone makes some sense. I have had a couple chicks take swings at me while working for trhrowing their boyfriends out and shit. The cop isnt punching her in the face, just subdueing her so she cant flail about like a lunatic if she so desirved. Safer for him, safer for her, better all around.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I don't believe in violence. Yes, sometimes I know that it is necessary. I am just not a violent individual. I would NEVER raise my hand to hit a man for two reasons:

A) If that man was doing something so despicable that I should feel the need to hit him then he has obviously degraded himself to the level of SHIT and MY HANDS ARE TOO GOOD TO TOUCH SHIT.

B) I fully expect to get hit back.

You only have to be hit once by a man to know that you never want to be hit again.

Also - If I were to be publicly arrested I would feel like dying from the humiliation (unless it was for a REALLY fucked up reason ie - breastfeeding in public - DOH!) of the event itself. Why on earth would I want to further call attention to the act by degrading myself further to the level of an animal by kicking, screaming, clawing whatever? It isn't a rape.... It is a fucking arrest. Go quietly and wait for your day in court where INTELLIGENCE *MIGHT* prevail.

 

[ariolanine]

These people aren't human. They hate Dubya and that's the ONLY thing they are protesting. They don't give a fuck about Iraqis just like they didn't give a fuck about Serbs, Sudanese, Afgani's. Clinton bombed those countries and killed civilians. No leftist puke ever raised their voice. These assholes are rioting and causing trouble because they hate our president. I think they are traitors and if they disrupt civilian life for us they should be shot. I honestly mean that.

 

[Frackal]

Well you're referring to the more hippie-fied protestors and I agree....but there were alot of regular folks out before the war...tens of thousands

 

[joack]

much like with the war, i think our support means dick. but yea, they arent over there cause they want to be.

Actually our support means alot. The soldiers do hear about the political climate at home. If the support is low then it might affect their morale. Are you sayin we should demoralize our troops?

Also, these troops were not DRAFTED. They enlisted. Therefore, they accept the fact that they could be sent anywhere in the world to fight.

 

[joack]

sorry Bikini, your in the wrong thread. your in the kill em first let god sort them out crew right now. some of these ppl enjoy seeing female protesters getting manhandled by jacked up asshole cops.

First of all not all the protestors are women. Secondly, these protestors have been throwing bottles at the police, and vandalizing property. SO MUCH FOR A PEACEFUL PROTEST!

 

[danielson]

Well you're referring to the more hippie-fied protestors and I agree....but there were alot of regular folks out before the war...tens of thousands

yup

politicians are using the 'serviceman and women' arguement to avoid a wave of anti-war sentiment during invasion day

while i dont think protests against soldiers are appropriate during war time, vigils for those in iraq and our soldiers would be nice. i think they should switch to these types of demonstrations

and afterwards successful or not i think there should be an investigation as to whether this was all necessary in this time frame

 

[Frackal]

I'm still concerned about the occupation...there is alot of history, alot of bad blood there as I understand it and our guys are going to be in the middle of it all.

 

[danielson]

the scary thing is if the extremists do their suicide shit on the bases we are likely to set up in their cities...

on the one hand blair wants to get the EU involved in post iraq rebuilding, bush wants america to handle it all (and the costs!)

 

[Sinistar]

these bushies have a hell of a problem with there eyes evidently. lincoln says the other night that all hippies were spitting on soldiers, which is obviously a crock of shit. did some of them? sure what are they? peices of shit.

by the above post, i got the impression that all the protesters were throwing bottles. no, they werent. you wanna know how i know? cause if the cops were being assualted en masse, theyd break out the tear gas. no tear gas mans that the bottle throwing was limited to a few twerps, and damn sure doesnt need to be accredited to a whole group of ppl.

dont you agree?

 

[Citruscide]

Like I said, no problem with protests BEFORE the war starts...

Shut up and support once it's going... not a big issue.

Not to mention... of the "massive" college-protests that went on.... 95% of most schools populating students did not participate ... at UC Berkely... 99.7% of the students did NOT participate in any of the protests ... I think there was like 200 people... so... around 5% of our nations students came out to show disapproval of the war.

Frackal -- we are going to need to occupy Iraq to set up our attack of Saudi Arabia... mark it here... we will go after them next...

C-ditty

 

[BangedUp]

This makes me sick.

 

[skaman607]

Here are two quotes I saved from other threads:

It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protestor to burn the flag



To the peace-at-all-costs crowd, I say: peace was given a chance, and peace failed. So, rest up. There will be plenty of protests for you to attend in the near future. That's because we're fortunate enough to have a president who recognizes the lurking dangers that you choose to ignore. As you savor the freedoms, comforts, and luxuries of the American existence, remember the Iraqi people, who have none of these things thanks to Saddam Hussein. And think of our kids in the Gulf, the ones you probably view as offspring of rednecks and other unsophisticates. They've pledged their lives to secure your right to scream yourself hoarse about the evil United States. They're the ones who are about to liberate the Iraqi people. And when they do, they'll be making a far greater contribution to humanity than has ever been made by antiquated actresses bellowing stale sixties slogans into bullhorns at peace protests."

 

[Frackal]

WTF

 

[the nature boy]

those dopes in SF are out of line. disrupting peoples livelyhood and safety is just plain wrong, I don't care which side of the fence you lie in terms of the war.

 

[skaman607]

WTF

These were just illustrating how the protestors should respect the soldiers, I didn't expect anyone to have a problem with respecitng our soldiers.

 

[TxArmyGuy]

I really hope not too dude....

But I mean... shit. We are going to LOSE some guys this time... not like the 50 guys who died in Desert Storm because water heaters blew up or helicopters crashed... we are going to lose guys because they are blown up by artillery, missles, God-awful shit...

Believe it or not... those guys belive in what America stands for... they are over there fighting for it. They are over there FIGHTING for us... whether you believe in it or not... they believe in America. I'm going to be damned if I'm not going to support them 100%...

C-ditty

Hey thanks Citruscide. Though I haven't been sent to the middle east yet there is alot of fighting going on in Asia as well and with as much training my units doing I can't help but think we will get sent somewhere sooner or later. I appreciate reading supportive comments like this and I bet my brothers and sisters in arm would too

 

[Frackal]

These were just illustrating how the protestors should respect the soldiers, I didn't expect anyone to have a problem with respecitng our soldiers.

I was saying WTF to the pic of the protestors calling the soldiers to shoot their officers....don't they know where the orders originate?

 

[theoak01]

I dont think I should shut up Frack,Im not pro government but these people are fighting for freedoms we take for granted and the fucking protestors spit on it,if they dont like it fucking move somewhere else,anbd please if you respond prove me wrong,no one sentence answers

have a nice day

 

[Citruscide]

BTW... the Chicago downtown protests mobbed onto Lake Shore Drive tonight during rush hour... effectively causing hours of delays (yay free speech) ... several protesters caused damage to motorists who honked THEIR protests of being delayed from getting home to watch Smackdown... which, ironically, was not shown....

C-ditty

 

[PHATchik]

I think that right now, we are beyond the time of anyone protesting this war. We're there, there's nothing that will change that. I think that right now is when this nation needs to come together whether you agree with the war or not. THat needs to be put aside, and we need to all come together as one to show the men and women who are fighting for this country that we support them and believe in what they are doing. ANd that we are praying they get their job done and come home quickly and safely.

 

[Frackal]

I dont think I should shut up Frack,Im not pro government but these people are fighting for freedoms we take for granted and the fucking protestors spit on it,if they dont like it fucking move somewhere else,anbd please if you respond prove me wrong,no one sentence answers

have a nice day

Distinguish between a soldier, who is always a hero when doing his job, and the Politician, who controls the soldier, often less than honorably....also, I was referring to the fact that I think former Iraqi citizens have a right to voice their disagreements, as they likely have family members in harms way.

 

[casualbb]

at UC Berkely... 99.7% of the students did NOT participate in any of the protests ... I think there was like 200 people...

That was today in Sproul Plaza. And you're correct, it looked like around 200 people. But that's at any given time. I stopped by for a half hour, but moved on because I had to attend lecture and prepare for my midterm. UC Berkeley has obviously decreased in activism since the late 60's, but it's still pretty active. Most of us have either left for spring break or were going to class in preparation for our last round of midterms. Doesn't leave a lot left for protesting.

As to soldiers, I agree. I think a distinction needs to be made though. I fully support our armed services and have the utmost respect for them. The armed forces is a tool, and I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is the wielder of that tool. I can protest the war and the reasons for it while maintaining respect for those who are doing the fighting.

-casualbb

 

[Hengst]

Actually, the ACT of protesting is very important to our democratic society. Regardless of the view point being taken (i.e. - pro/anti war)

Protesting is a process that allows differing segments of society to "vent their steam". It is a legitimate and valid form of expression - even in these difficult times.

A question for thought.........
Where are the PRO-WAR demonstrations?

To those of you who see the anti-war demonstrations as anti-American, why don't you organize a counter demonstration in support of the war? At least the people who feel passionate about thier convictions against the war are doing something.

(I'm trying to stay neutral here)

 

[casualbb]

Good point. America seems split between active protest of the war and arm-chair approval of it. Haven't seen a single pro-war protest.

-casualbb

 

[casualbb]

Just thought of a quote...

"'I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
-Voltaire


-casualbb

 

[WODIN]

"We're not going to Protest!"
"We're not going to Protest!"
"We're not going to Protest!"
"We're not going to Protest!"

---- PCU

 

[maximized]

from experience, your support is so charished by soldiers! someone commented about the vietname war/vets. im not sure if this was meant to be a comparison to this war with iraq or not, and soldiers dying for no reason, but if it was, then i disagree. there is a point to this war. there is a definate threat from saddam to the US, unlike in korea where there was none. if i was mistaken by your post, my appologies.

-max

 

[Citruscide]

pro-war protest??!? We don't NEED one... LOL --- We are at war!

That's like getting a raise at your job and then throwing a protest.

c-ditty

 

[theoak01]

I definatly feel for anyone who has any relative friend or aquaintence in harms way but to get into it to the degree she was had me sick