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Wanting to quit drugs and lift again, please help.......

2BeSwoleAgain

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Man, I've really went downhill guys. I was doing so well in the gym, trained hard for three years. Started when I was 19 and went from 175 to 215 and pretty ripped(I'm 5'10") for the last 3 years.The last few months I've went so far downhill I can't believe it. I started injecting Oxycontins. I've messed w/ them the past couple years on occasion but this time I got hooked. Then I started messing with Heroin. Heroin is much cheaper so I kinda switched to Heroin and have been injecting it 1-2 times a day for the past couple months. I feel like shit everyday until I get my fix. I've with from 215 to about 185 quick. I feel shitty about myself, I lost my gym membership and havent lifted in months. I'm not sure why I'm posting this, I guess I'm just looking for some support and encouragement to help me get off this shit and back into the gym.Has anyone else ever been here? If so can you give me some advice on getting off this and back into the gym. Should I just slowly ween myself off the "H" or should I try to get Methadone. I don't wanna get professional help, I wanna try to quit myself. Any encouragement right now will really be appreciated guys. Thanks for listening and hopefully one day I'll be back on here with an update telling you how I straightened out and am back in the gym growing again.
 
First off...

First off, I want to wish you the best of luck. No, I haven't been down that road and I don't exactly know how you feel or what you are going through so i am not going to sit here and lie to you and say that I have. As barnidge mention earlier the first step is to admit you have a problem, which you have done. I honestly wish you the best bro. Just do what you have to do and straighten yourself and your life out. I mean lifting for me has definately help my life in different ways then yours, but it definately helped me live a better life. Not just in the physical aspect. But also mentally. Once again, Good Luck.

John G.
 
Hey bro hang in there its just a obstacle in life your gonna have to overcome. No matter what you need to quit, its gonna be hard, but you have to. There is no way around it. Good luck bro if you have any questions post em up and I will help.
 
you can wean yourself off, but there's gonna come a point where you have to put it down and you're gonna feel like shit for a while... and it's tough... and not everyone can do it... my little brother couldn't... he died in March of a heroin OD...

get in the gym and sweat it out!!!! and don't be affraid to seek professional help!!!

be strong,

Forrest
 
yes I hope you can find something else to become involved with other than heroin. Haven't you ever seen trainspotting?

Good luck and try to stay around the people who love you and DONT hang around with those that have these bad habits.
 
no worries

get some help with close friends or family who don't use drugs, and don't worry bro muscle has memory. One of my buddies use to be crackhead for 5 years he cleaned his act up couple years back and you should see him know!!! he look fantastic!! keep your head up soldier!
 
One of my best friends is doing this right now. Literally. He's my roommate, I've known him for 14 years. He goes through about $2400/week in OC's.

He quite, cold, back in early June. That was a complete disaster, I had to sit here and babysit for weeks. He was so depressed. Intensely suicidal. He didn't sleep for 9 days. I've never admitted this, but there were times I secretly wish he would just finally kill himself. It's tough to spend 12+ hours a day, days on end, with someone who does nothing other than cry, vomit and stare at the wall. I watched him go from 184# to 137#, took him to the ER three times due to kidney issues. He improved to "just staring" (ie depressed but no suicidal talk) by early July. He seemed all fixed by early September.

Now he has started agian, continuously fuk'd up since the 14th of this month. I hate him now. I'll be here when he falls apart though.

GO GET HELP. If you want your life back GO GET HELP.
 
thx9000 said:
One of my best friends is doing this right now. Literally. He's my roommate, I've known him for 14 years. He goes through about $2400/week in OC's.

He quite, cold, back in early June. That was a complete disaster, I had to sit here and babysit for weeks. He was so depressed. Intensely suicidal. He didn't sleep for 9 days. I've never admitted this, but there were times I secretly wish he would just finally kill himself. It's tough to spend 12+ hours a day, days on end, with someone who does nothing other than cry, vomit and stare at the wall. I watched him go from 184# to 137#, took him to the ER three times due to kidney issues. He improved to "just staring" (ie depressed but no suicidal talk) by early July. He seemed all fixed by early September.

Now he has started agian, continuously fuk'd up since the 14th of this month. I hate him now. I'll be here when he falls apart though.

GO GET HELP. If you want your life back GO GET HELP.

if you really care for this person, it sounds like it is time for some type of intervention. where is his family? he needs some help from the sounds of it.
 
PatBateman said:


if you really care for this person, it sounds like it is time for some type of intervention. where is his family? he needs some help from the sounds of it.

They couldn't care less. Well, maybe they do but you would think not. He hasn't spoken to his dad since he was 15, he's seen his mom a total of maybe two weeks since he started college and that was 10 years ago. He visits her for exactly one day every year or two, and she lives 1400 miles from here. That's it for his family. He was one other friend, other than me, and that dude's just as fucked up as he is.

The biggest problem: he thinks everything is just fine. He says, "this is exactly what I want to be doing with the rest of my life." He only stopped back in June b/c his buddy's wife threatened to leave with their two kids. So they both cleaned up for a few months. Making matters worse, he has basically unlimited money. To be honest, this is actually very stressful for me...Oh well.
 
thx9000 said:


They couldn't care less. Well, maybe they do but you would think not. He hasn't spoken to his dad since he was 15, he's seen his mom a total of maybe two weeks since he started college and that was 10 years ago. He visits her for exactly one day every year or two, and she lives 1400 miles from here. That's it for his family. He was one other friend, other than me, and that dude's just as fucked up as he is.

The biggest problem: he thinks everything is just fine. He says, "this is exactly what I want to be doing with the rest of my life." He only stopped back in June b/c his buddy's wife threatened to leave with their two kids. So they both cleaned up for a few months. Making matters worse, he has basically unlimited money. To be honest, this is actually very stressful for me...Oh well.

short of beating the guy senseless so he goes to the hospital and has to give up drugs and recover for a month, I would move far away from these two guys fast. they sound like they are bringing you down, and really, from what you describe, what do they bring to the table?
 
2BeSwoleAgain

Not getting professional help is the worst thing you can do. My ex girl got into H my first year in college. Too much money combined with too much time on her hands led to a quick downfall. It got to the point where I couldn't watch her treat herself like that. So I called her parents and told them what was happening. They came the next day and took her back home and checked her into rehab the next day. Almost two months later she came out a new person, totally full of life, and ready to take control of her life. I honestly believe that without rehab, eventually she would have overdosed. Heroin has the ability to sink its claws in so deep, you can only pull them out with the help of others. You think you have control, but you don't. Dont fuck around with Methadone, its just going from one addiction to the other. Dont be ashamed! Check yourself into rehab, and focus your new found energy on something positive, like lifting. You've got the strength to do it. NOW is the time to seize the day, cause there might not be another....
 
it's good that you realized that you have a problem. it may sound stupid, but i've found prison or jail to be a good way to force yourself to quit any addiction you have. i've known a couple of alcoholics to have sobered up after doing some time. just a thought...
 
Bro you're gonna make it. I can feel it. First of all you have admitted to yourself that you do have a problem. This is the first step to making a full recovery. Second, you beleive that you can quit on your own which is the truth. If you feel you can do it, then you can. It's gonna be a rough road for the next year or two but no matter how bad you feel just remember that you can't go on living like this forever. If methadone will help, then get it. As far as professional help goes, I cannot advise but I can tell you that if you believe in yourself, you can pull through it. You're going to find out really soon that 95% of your friends are really not your friends. You need to ditch them now or they will just cause you to relapse and bring you down. Throughout the days to come there will be many oportunities to "bang the bang" but you hafta be a man and walk away. You're gonna feel like shit but thats just part of recovery. It only gets better. The longer you've been clean, the better you will feel. You body will regrow and so will your true friends and family. In the end, if you stay clean you will be proud of yourself and will look back in disbelief at the old you. You can make it, I know this. Hang in there....
 
You need professional help big time bro, getting off is one thing - staying off is another. Just ask my wife. She is in Hazelden treatment center right now. This is the place where many of the celebrities go. Hazelden and the Betty Ford clinic are the two best treatment facilities in the world. This is the number for Hazelden: 651-257-4010

My wife is alcoholic and had been relapsing for the past two months until I caught her and got her into treatment. She had been sober for 3 1/2 years then out of the blue she started again - she is 5'7" tall, weighs 130 lbs and was drinking a quart of vodka per day - AND NOBODY KNEW!!! Not me, not our daughter or her parents or friends. People that see her everyday and none of us knew until I took a sip out of her soda bottle and tasted the vodka in it. If she continued this for much longer she probably would have killed herself. Get some pro help, they'll help you stay off!!! She did a cheesy outpatient program the first time and it didn't work obviously, that's why she's now in Hazelden.
 
My brother got real bad w/this and battled for 10 years. In my house my brother stole everything from my parents. Funny cause my parents still lock everything to this day out of old habit. The longer you go the harder it will be to break free. Best bet is to seak professional help if possible. Will be a constant battle but you have only been using for 2 months. Don't wait any longer because it will only get worse and your 185 will become 145. Good luck.
 
interesting enough one of my good friends whent trough your ordeal , he fist got hooked with oxy, then he moved on Heroin, he is your age, big kit and with a good heart , his problem is he has an adictive personality. he went form beign 230 lbs to 187 in about six months, his girlfriend dumped him he had tow jobs , one he lost. so he did the this: he got two of his best friend to take four days off from work with him ( they watch over him) he whent at it cold turkey- I know it takes some guts to do this ,but never the less he did, it needs to be done, it is your life we talking about here, you got to love your self first, you know this , you just admitted-- you realy have two choises here 1. you keep doing this and feeling soory for your self and keep hoping that soem day you get out of this( thsi may take you the rest of your life wich may not be too long) 2. you take four days of your life get rid of it cold turkey-and live the rest of it happy
your choise, you decide let me know!
 
f**k bro, I am sorry to hear about your situation. You have already admitted you have a problem - that good - most people never even make it that far. I don't know anything about coming off of h. You will definently need to get some help and support. I have friends with severe drinking problems and cocaine. The key to their recovery was self motivation, professional help and support, and occupying their free time. The 3rd part( occupying your free time) is the most critical. Most people start using because of boardom. If you are not bored you won't think about using. Get back to the gym, start a new hobby and get some help. Good luck with your recovery.
 
From me to you

You have admitted the problem. That is the first step. You need to seek out a solid support system to help you through this time. Whether it be friends or family or maybe both. You do need to have someone there for you. To talk to you and most importantly, listen to you. N/A meetings happen every night of the week in local houses of worship. Seek them out, there free, and there are people there for you. Remember that it is your life and only you can take the steps to change it. An ear is more than you may think. I have never known anyone to do it alone.
Addictions of any kind are serious and take huge tolls on the soul. They can drain our bodies but they can not take our minds. You are strong for taking the first steps into this. you will succeed as long as you remain consistent. It will be difficult and at times seem impossible. Hang in there.

After my career as an athlete I worked as a counselor in a mentally ill chemically addicted residential center. I have seen this situation before, assuming all information is correct. Keep a daily log of all your activities and dosages. Make sure you document everything, even the way you feel. What triggers you to want to use as well as what triggers you to not want to use. Keep those factors with you all the time, 24/7/365. Do not forget why you are doing what your doing. Be consistent. My heart is with you brother. Win the battle and the world is yours.
 
2BeSwoleAgain said:
Man, I've really went downhill guys. I was doing so well in the gym, trained hard for three years. Started when I was 19 and went from 175 to 215 and pretty ripped(I'm 5'10") for the last 3 years.The last few months I've went so far downhill I can't believe it. I started injecting Oxycontins. I've messed w/ them the past couple years on occasion but this time I got hooked. Then I started messing with Heroin. Heroin is much cheaper so I kinda switched to Heroin and have been injecting it 1-2 times a day for the past couple months. I feel like shit everyday until I get my fix. I've with from 215 to about 185 quick. I feel shitty about myself, I lost my gym membership and havent lifted in months. I'm not sure why I'm posting this, I guess I'm just looking for some support and encouragement to help me get off this shit and back into the gym.Has anyone else ever been here? If so can you give me some advice on getting off this and back into the gym. Should I just slowly ween myself off the "H" or should I try to get Methadone. I don't wanna get professional help, I wanna try to quit myself. Any encouragement right now will really be appreciated guys. Thanks for listening and hopefully one day I'll be back on here with an update telling you how I straightened out and am back in the gym growing again.

Okay, well I know a little bit about this subject because I come from a family of drug addicts and alcoholics. What you need to do is go to NA and/or AA. If you are serious about this the 12 steps can help you kick you habit. My friend did not seek professional help and he was smoking and shooting “H” for a number of years. You can get all the professional help you want but if you do not want to quit nothing is going to help you. Robert Downey Jr. is a perfect example of that, Scott Wyland is another. Rehabs and sober living facilities do help but again it is something that you must want to do. You can do this without methadone and without paying bundles of cash, just get your ass to NA. Here in LA most people do both NA and AA sorry to tell you this but you will probably have to quit drinking too, because the bottle always leads back to the syringe in my opinion and I have many examples of this so I am not going to debate it. Good luck bro.
 
I'm a former alcoholic. I know people say once you are, you always are. But I believe there are various degrees to the disease and addiction. A year ago this past july, I checked into rehab, not by choice but because I landed in the ER after passing out from just dehydrating myself so much because of alcohol. I spent 9 days in rehab, went through hell from withdrawal for a few days, but i'm fine now. I was drinking for 6 months, about a fifth a day of vodka. I did some outpatient counseling after, but realized I could beat this thing myself without AA. It just wasn't for me. Now I can actually drink moderatly because I know I was depressed and shyed away from people when I was drinking before. The one thing I make sure I try not to do is drink by myself. And everyone is right when they say don't worry about the muscle, I didn't workout for 6 months, and once I started working out again it only took a few weeks and it was all back. I would say get some friends that will support you in quitting and you can do it on your own. Go to a methadone clinic if you need it. But all the professional help in the world can't help unless YOU want to quit and get back on track. Any help or questions you need just email, I've been to hell and back from addiction so I know. Good luck!
 
2BeSwoleAgain said:
Man, I've really went downhill guys. I was doing so well in the gym, trained hard for three years. Started when I was 19 and went from 175 to 215 and pretty ripped(I'm 5'10") for the last 3 years.The last few months I've went so far downhill I can't believe it. I started injecting Oxycontins. I've messed w/ them the past couple years on occasion but this time I got hooked. Then I started messing with Heroin. Heroin is much cheaper so I kinda switched to Heroin and have been injecting it 1-2 times a day for the past couple months. I feel like shit everyday until I get my fix. I've with from 215 to about 185 quick. I feel shitty about myself, I lost my gym membership and havent lifted in months. I'm not sure why I'm posting this, I guess I'm just looking for some support and encouragement to help me get off this shit and back into the gym.Has anyone else ever been here? If so can you give me some advice on getting off this and back into the gym. Should I just slowly ween myself off the "H" or should I try to get Methadone. I don't wanna get professional help, I wanna try to quit myself. Any encouragement right now will really be appreciated guys. Thanks for listening and hopefully one day I'll be back on here with an update telling you how I straightened out and am back in the gym growing again.
Stay strong bro. I sort of got hooked on pain killers a while back, but not as bad as you it sounds. I'd say get professional help bro. H is not an easy drug to get off of, don't know from first hand experience. I just found out about a week ago that a kid I was really good friends with in grammar school died the other week by overdose on oxycotin's. Get off that shit bro. Don't ween off, it will never happen. There was a good thread a while back that detailed how to get off oxycontin. Do a search for oxycontin addiction. The first week or two will be the hardest bro. One thing *I* found helped me get off the pain killers was pot, sure it isn't great for you either, but I found it helped.
 
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