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Just a side-note on the CLA thing... I noticed that I was a tiny bit "tighter" while taking it, but nothing to brag about... not worth the money. You can get the same result eating clean. But people don't like to hear that, LOL.
Want to try Clen. Need all the info i can get.
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xenasky
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Hi everyone!
I am new to the board and was thinking of using Clen myself. Thanks for all this info! Does anyone know how Clen compares to Ephedrine? I used Eph when it first came out and it worked really well but had not so great side effects.
Also, what kind of ECA stack do ya'll recommend? Preferably one with no caffeine.
Thanks!
I am new to the board and was thinking of using Clen myself. Thanks for all this info! Does anyone know how Clen compares to Ephedrine? I used Eph when it first came out and it worked really well but had not so great side effects.
Also, what kind of ECA stack do ya'll recommend? Preferably one with no caffeine.
Thanks!
If you don't like the sides of Ephedra, you won't like the sides of Clen. They are very similar. I get MUCH more jitters on Clen than ECA. I feel like I have Parkinsons.
To get a true ECA, you have to have caffeine. It is the 'C' in ECA. ECA stacks are Ephedra, Caffeine, and Asprin.
Why no caffeine? You are going have a hard time finding a 'fat burner' with no caffeine, esp. since Ephedra is banned now.
To get a true ECA, you have to have caffeine. It is the 'C' in ECA. ECA stacks are Ephedra, Caffeine, and Asprin.
Why no caffeine? You are going have a hard time finding a 'fat burner' with no caffeine, esp. since Ephedra is banned now.
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The Shadow
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yeah...worring about the jitters from the asprin in an ECA stack is like being concerned that its raining when you are scuba diving
xenasky
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Daisy_Girl said:If you don't like the sides of Ephedrine, you won't like the sides of Clen. They are very similar. I get MUCH more jitters on Clen than ECA. I feel like I have Parkinsons.
To get a true ECA, you have to have caffeine. It is the 'C' in ECA. ECA stacks are Ephedra, Caffeine, and Asprin.
Why no caffeine? You are going have a hard time finding a 'fat burner' with no caffeine, esp. since Ephedra is banned now.
Thanks for the info.! Yeah, I just learned what it stood for..lol..I'm a little slow today
The sides for eph that I didn't really like was the moodiness, loss of memory and insomnia but other than that I loved it...lol...! I was happy, could work out hard and long and had tons of energy. I can see how it can be addictive!
I just didn't like caff. because it gave me headaches, didn't last very long and the come down was the worst. I had the best luck with Eph. but it is not around anymore and being in school, I need my memory
So, my boyfriend recommended Clen but I read through this thread and see it is used more for getting over plateaus. I think I want to start on something else first to get back into my diet and workout and then use it to get over a plateau when I'm faced with it. I just didn't know which one was best? I still have some Stacker's 2 I use which is great but has the eph still and then sometime the Xenadrine Eph. free.
What do you recommend as a starting energy/weight loss pill to get me going?
Thanks again for your help!
Xenasky
Stacker 2, Xenadrine, almost ALL 'fat-burners' have caffeine in them. You are going to have a VERY hard time finding an "energy" supplement that has no caffeine.
You got headaches while taking caffeine? I bet you $100 you were dehydrated. How much water do you drink everyday?
You got headaches while taking caffeine? I bet you $100 you were dehydrated. How much water do you drink everyday?
xenasky
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Yeah, I bet you are right. I get dehydrated so easy and plus I am very prone to migraines and caffeine triggers them. I was just wondering if there was something out there without caff. but there's not so no big deal. I can deal with headaches.
So what do you recommend? Xenadrine?
So what do you recommend? Xenadrine?
MuscleTech has a Hydroxycut version now without caffeine. But I cannot vouch for it's effectiveness, having never taken it. You could try it.
Prone to dehydration? I think that is code for "I need to drink a lot more water" How much do you drink every day? You need about 1 gallon - which sounds daunting, but it is only 4 liters (a liter is roughly 32 oz). Spread throughout the day, it breaks down easily.
Prone to dehydration? I think that is code for "I need to drink a lot more water"
How much do you drink every day? You need about 1 gallon - which sounds daunting, but it is only 4 liters (a liter is roughly 32 oz). Spread throughout the day, it breaks down easily. 
wend
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Just in case anyone had skimmed Maj's post, I wanted to highlight his statement that stimulants, such as "crystal", diet pills, cocaine or abuse of over the counter cold-preps, in conjunction with clen, can cause deterioration of heart tissue, even leading to sudden death. Clearly, clen in moderate doses for short cycles can be helpful for competitors who've already gotten their bodyfat very low and have the discipline to avoid such contraindicated substances, but should be avoided by those who don't fall into that description.
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*MissFit*
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the point and this is an important point.. There is alot of evidence to suggest that these items can cause negative effects.
When taking anything one should educate one selve and take it responsibly. There are many instances where ppl have taken thm and no severe side effects occur.
I do not beleive on jumping on the band wagon of all stimulants, but i also do not see the need to instil fear in all those who desire to use them RESPONSIBLY!
When taking anything one should educate one selve and take it responsibly. There are many instances where ppl have taken thm and no severe side effects occur.
I do not beleive on jumping on the band wagon of all stimulants, but i also do not see the need to instil fear in all those who desire to use them RESPONSIBLY!
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