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great fuckin worldwide international display
our fat ass "poor" people behaving in such a manner
our fat ass "poor" people behaving in such a manner
needtogetas said:THANKS BUT IT SEEMS WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY DONT MEAN SHIT AROUND HERE.I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU CALL ME DUMB.IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER EVRY TIME I HERE IT.IT SHOWS JUST HOW STOPID AND NIEVE YOU ARE TO THINK THAT SPELLING AND GRAMMER IS THE ONLY WAY TO MUSHER INTELLAGENCE.GET A FUCKEN CLUE YOU ARE THE DUMB ONE.YOUR BRAIN CAN ONLY SEE THINGS ONE WAY.YOU SEE SOMETHING AT FIRST GLANCE AND CALL IT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT.ALOTE OF THINGS IN LIFE ARNT ALLWAYS WHAT THEY SEEM BUT I DONT THINK YOURE SMALL MIND CAN COMPREHEND THAT.
lololololjustyxxxx said:Oh my God - ALL CAPS - that went out years ago. You need to get up with the times boy. ALL CAPS are way out of style.
And to respond to your comment, funny - I sure have gotten quite a bit of green karma lately if my posts don't mean shit . . . now, depress that CAPS LOCK key immediately need-to-get-gassed.
jacked clown said:Need to get gassed?? Sorta funny? So what you like gassing people now...HITLER!!!
Hengst said:I bet New Orleans was a dangerous hell hole even before the hurricane struck. And the evacuation of it's citizens (except the very bottom of the black underclass) exposed the already existing lawlessness for all to see.
http://www.americanprowler.com/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8684
"New Orleans was ripe for collapse. Its dangerous geography, combined with a dangerous culture, made it susceptible to an unfolding catastrophe. Currents of chaos and lawlessness were running through the city long before this week, and they were bound to come to the surface under the pressure of natural disaster and explode in a scene of looting and mayhem."
And apologies to all my pollitically correct brothers on this site, but to ignore the racial aspects of modern urban society is sucidal for most white folk. Why do you think there were no whites looting? They left the city because they knew their lives would be in danger if they stayed. Sorry, but that's the truth. The press tries to cover up the truth in euphemisms and pollitically correct speach, but folks know. white folks and black folks.
pintoca said:no whites looting???
you haven't seen enough reports... you missed that famous piece on "blacks loot and whites find"?
Hengst said:That's the only thing, I've written, that you can refute.
pintoca said:Actually I somewhat agree with the rest, but you cannot give a whole "it's only blacks who are responsible" tint to it, then you lose credibility.
The issue of social difference is there for all to see and every segment knows their place, once you have a disruption like this, the "established order" is simply no more.
Hengst said:I bet New Orleans was a dangerous hell hole even before the hurricane struck. And the evacuation of it's citizens (except the very bottom of the black underclass) exposed the already existing lawlessness for all to see.
http://www.americanprowler.com/dsp_article.asp?art_id=8684
"New Orleans was ripe for collapse. Its dangerous geography, combined with a dangerous culture, made it susceptible to an unfolding catastrophe. Currents of chaos and lawlessness were running through the city long before this week, and they were bound to come to the surface under the pressure of natural disaster and explode in a scene of looting and mayhem."
And apologies to all my pollitically correct brothers on this site, but to ignore the racial aspects of modern urban society is sucidal for most white folk. Why do you think there were no whites looting? They left the city because they knew their lives would be in danger if they stayed. Sorry, but that's the truth. The press tries to cover up the truth in euphemisms and pollitically correct speach, but folks know. white folks and black folks.
I got a chuckle out of thatrsnoble-im-back said:I would def. steal food. I don't think I would be able to carry anything else. So.......while im on top a rooftop eating a PB sandwich with the mosquitos you'll be running around town trying to find a hot 120v outlet for your new big screen and dvd system and ruin your new nikes in the mud. And you'll expend all your energy doing so.
rsnoble-im-back said:I would def. steal food. I don't think I would be able to carry anything else. So.......while im on top a rooftop eating a PB sandwich with the mosquitos you'll be running around town trying to find a hot 120v outlet for your new big screen and dvd system and ruin your new nikes in the mud. And you'll expend all your energy doing so.
justyxxxx said:ha ha ha - funny how you little white dumb asses don't see the racism of this thread - I made my point very clear - it's you that needs to soak it up - spongebob.
Clearly, with all the uses of the word "fuck" - I hit a hostile nerve. Yeah, I tend to do that when the truth has been spoken . . . I'm waiting for your explanation as to why this thread isn't racist.
justyxxxx said:SHITTY HUH? Yes, your post is a true example of an intelligent response. Let's see, I remember this - FUCK . . . FUCK . . . FUCK . . . can't you do better than that spongeypoo?
Also - spongey - aren't you a devout Catholic? Hmmm - with all your uses of the word FUCK I'm wondering if you've not fallen from grace . . . or perhaps you're too stupid to see that too . . .
2ez said:Are you saying there were no whites looting nor left behind ? Please explain what it is that the press is covering up.
Also, what are your feelings on Bush's and FEMA's response time. Any thoughts on why up to 1/3 of the Police force would leave as well ?
spongebob said:yea whites looted, ofcourse they did. and im sure they looted unneccesary items. whether its the fact that NO is made of mostly blacks or if the news media chose to focus only on blacks, from what the country see's on tv a large percentage if not all of the unnecesary looting was being done by blacks.
if its for food, water, clothing and shit like that its not looting. period.
the response time was slow by any agency if you ask me. why? i dont know. everyone is pointing fingers right now and it seems conflicting on who is exactly to blame. i do feel that the mayor and govoner should be blamed first. then the fed govt.
the US military should have been put in charge the very first day. period.
the police left because they too have families to take care of, they were being shot at and outmanned and outgunned, they left because shit like this can drive a person insane. theyve already had several suicides now by police officers.
2ez said:hmmm ?
you seem to have exempt the Police from not so favorable actions....but the same has not been extended to Black citizens. Why is it ok for the police to go insance and not the people of color. Do the Blacks not have families to care for too ?
Maybe they should have followed the person or persons that "looted" the TV. Just so we can get a better understanding on how the story plays out. Not l ike they had any power....maybe, just maybe it can be used to barter or trade later. But something like this is never considered..especially even after ATMs do not work and one can not use a credit card for at least 100 miles away according to the news.
Those people are not just dealing with hunger and dehyradration....but the fact that people are actually dying in front of them as a result of being ignored. This is 3rd World stuff and not something they are prepared for. I live in NY. After 9/11 we have things are not the same. It bothers me to see military personnel walking in the trains with dogs and assault rifles. Not the best way to start a day nor something i would think i would see.
I have lived in poor communities (Philadelphia, Palo Alto, St Louis, Barbados) ...and I will tell you the mindset is not like that in other communities. If i had to compare...i would say it was as if they were in jail. I sensed a feeling of being held captive, like not being able to go anywhere so they will make t he best of their envirnoment. In many cases...all they knew where the fe block radius from their homes.
It's sad that it took possibly thousands to die for someone to finally pay attention to the conditions in this area.
it saddens me further to read some of the threads as if these people are subhuman or even refugees. No one can say what drives people to do what they do. I think that is the main problem. Everyone is looking to put a label on something rather than treating it as a unique issue.
spongebob said:the police left because they too have families to take care of, they were being shot at and outmanned and outgunned, they left because shit like this can drive a person insane. theyve already had several suicides now by police officers.
spongebob said:well first off i dont consider the actions by the police(leaving or committing suicide) unfavorable, so no, i havent given them exemption. they dont need it.
secondly, if your comparring the actions of the police to people looting tvs, jewelery, etc. i disagree. i would not compare the two at all.
if a looter wants food, medicine, water, anythiong to do with a baby or any type of clothing then that is fine with me. and i will say this, from the start ive said, outside of EF, that if i were in charge i would let them take whatever they want. as long as its not from someones home with that person there. looting would have been the least of my worries after seeing the complete destructiona nd dispair on tv.
as far as using it to barter, sorry i dont buy it. is it possible some were thinking that, i guess. but for the most part i dont buy it.
do i think that people can and have went nuts in this situation, ofcourse. but dont tell me that is what drove the looters to take tvs and etc.
as far as thousands dieing in order for people to start noticing the conditions. sorry, but that wont even last a year. it needs to be understood that you should never ever rely on the govt to do a damn thing for you. you will only be disappointed. it will not change a thing, never has and never will.
and i will add that the looting and other crimianl activity was only a small percentage of people i think. but a small group gets all the attention and makes the news.
Hengst said:Oh, hell..... those New Orleans cops that deserted were probably affirmative action hires and incompetent anyway.
Razorguns said:Yep.
Your house has been destroyed. Your agency is in awry. Your family is out of the city, or lost or dead. People already hate you. You are in the line of fire everywhere u go. You're making a lousy $40k/year. You're going to have to move out of the city and get a new job anyways wherever you relocate to.
Fuck the job. Family's more important.
2ez said:Affirmative Action ?
So they were white police officers that left ?
I am asking this since 90% of the population were black...making caucasians the minority group.
Many are talking about the looting.......what about the hotels in the surrounding areas doubling the cost to get a room ?
2ez said:You say that one should never rely on the Govt, to do anything, but are you saying that the Govt should have not fund the Levee project ?
with respect to the police, they not only left, but some even participated in looting and according to the news....guns were fired. some are saying that for the money they make and the current events, that they are justified to leave, because family is first.....but what are your thoughts on that young soldier who just married, yet was sent over to Iraq to fight. He makes even less money than the NO police and he too has a family. Should he too, just up and leave or honor the committment he made to protect and serve this country.
hehRazorguns said:Yep.
Your house has been destroyed. Your agency is in awry. Your family is out of the city, or lost or dead. People already hate you. You are in the line of fire everywhere u go. You're making a lousy $40k/year. You're going to have to move out of the city and get a new job anyways wherever you relocate to.
Fuck the job. Family's more important.
spongebob said:you seem to intertwine a lot of things that im not intending you to.
what im saying is very simple, if you rely on the govt to help you in situations, you might be disappointed.
i dont know who should have rebuilt those levees, but someone should have. and it just proves my point, the govt failed and therefore disappointed alot of people.
these two statements can be made independently of each other.
like i said i dont condone looting that doesnt involve food, water, baby items, clothing, medicine etc. so if a cop looted items other than that, then i look at him as a criminal too, although at this point like i said, that would be the least of my worries. extremely small percentage. not high on the priorty list.
your comparrison between the soldier and the police sticking to commitments doesnt work imo. a soldier is highly trained for war, a police officer is not highly trained for a hurricane disaster. our soldiers are not highly disadvantaged. the NO police were outmanned and outgunned. i just dont compare the two but good question.
gjohnson5 said:This is the focus of your post. Do you understand that by using the term "black community" is a generalization. You are taking a whole group of people and applying an conclusion of peoples attitudes towards a whole community. Do you now see the error in this? You are basically making a general conclusion based on skin color.
2ez said:All soldiers are not highly trained for war my friend.
spongebob said:lol, you have a bad habit of drifting away from the main topic of conversation my friend.
mrhoon said:I've seen countless times on the news people say they thought Katrina wasn't gonna be so bad. Dennis wasn't so bad, Ivan wasn't so bad, etc. I lived in New Orleans, No one I knew thought twice about hurricanes. They bragged about how many they rode out. "I'm not leaving my home, I'm safe here." My point is this. With so many who choose to stay despite warnings, knowing that there is a chance things may not be so bad, Why is it so hard to believe, that a theif, which is a profession of opportunity, would not think they could stay and steal with so many people away from their homes? I've read things like rediculous, ludicrus, stupid, ignorant. People will stay for many reasons. Financially unable, physically unable, whatever. There are people NOW that don't want to leave their homes. When you survive by taking from others, and profiting from misfortune or ignorance, spotting oportunity is your means of daily survival. Thousands away from their homes for any period of time could mean a financial windfall for many who choose to take advantage, and risk the consequences.
2ez said:Are you a cop ?
2ez said:not really, i had to put my daughter to bed and this was the only thing I was able to write.
Still not sure what you mean by one should not rely on the Govt. I am one to believe that if the Govt Giveth...he too will someday ask for it backeth. And it does not have to be monetarily. There is no such thing as a free ride...IMO
so what exactly are you saying here.chefbone said:Has anyone else seen this shit on TV? The majority(at least 95%) of the people that stayed behind waiting for the hurricane to pass were Black. They filled up everything they could find with goods from Walmart and any store they could get into. Hasn't Marshall Law been declared and, if so, why aren't they being shot on the spot?
I'm sure everyone paying attention to the news has seen it. They'd risk their lives just to loot through stores to get free shit. Those people make the rest of their people look bad.![]()
Banned.jnevin said:bump for reflections' sake
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