video game tools (hansel, etc)

[binö]

will games ever get this in depth and real?
like during madden, if you are bored playing the game, you can walk in the stands, assault the audience members, then go in the parking lot and steal a car then go trash the city
maybe even jump on the highway and go fug up the next city.

will this ever happen?

 

[binö]

will games ever get this in depth and real?
like during madden, if you are bored playing the game, you can walk in the stands, assault the audience members, then go in the parking lot and steal a car then go trash the city
maybe even jump on the highway and go fug up the next city.

will this ever happen?

lol, or like grand theft, verison america.
all of america is on the game, if your bored in NYC, you can steal a car and gas and go your way to northern michigan, rape and pillage hansel's family (every town/city/person would be on the game, info could be got from census)...then duck down to WI and kill of samote's family and such.
will this ever be a possibility?

 

[nimbus]

sounds kind of like postal. i don't think it would ever be legal to put actual people in a game though without permission/compensation

 

[binö]

sounds kind of like postal. i don't think it would ever be legal to put actual people in a game though without permission/compensation

maybe not put there names in the game, but have the general lay out of every town/city/county.
all available online, so i don't think that'd be sketchy.
wouldn't that be fun? i hated how grand theft auto has a stop to the city
or how in madden you can't go in the locker room and trash it.
i wonder if these barriers will gradually fade has tech gets better?

 

[nimbus]

i hate to admit it but yes that sounds awesome. or like if in the game you could just chill on a highway overpass and toss barrels into the road and watch chaos ensue

 

[Basic_wonder]

game engine + google maps + 3D map builder = what you want ....

 

[binö]

i hate to admit it but yes that sounds awesome. or like if in the game you could just chill on a highway overpass and toss barrels into the road and watch chaos ensue

yeah exactly
fug it not even play the football game, head immediatly into the stands and starting fighting with people.
then when the cops come have them shoot you and game over
i just want restriction free play, if it can happen irl, then it should happen in the game.
if i wanna steal a audience member's purse and rape her daughter, then so be it

 

[binö]

bump

 

[xrsist]

maybe not put there names in the game, but have the general lay out of every town/city/county.
all available online, so i don't think that'd be sketchy.
wouldn't that be fun? i hated how grand theft auto has a stop to the city
or how in madden you can't go in the locker room and trash it.
i wonder if these barriers will gradually fade has tech gets better?

it would be good

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

will games ever get this in depth and real?
like during madden, if you are bored playing the game, you can walk in the stands, assault the audience members, then go in the parking lot and steal a car then go trash the city
maybe even jump on the highway and go fug up the next city.

will this ever happen?

If you want free-roaming, open-ended gameplay, that's pretty much what GTA IV is. Typical scenario: After you leave the internet cafe with info on the latest car to jack and perhaps to also pick up the chic you emailed to meet up with, you run into some bad traffic, with the one in front being particularly irksome.
Rather than practicing real life suppression techniques, you decide to take that person out of the seat and teach him how to drive...but he puts up a fight and starts driving off before you can, so you take out your shotgun and and blast a few holes in his engine bay (perhaps too many) and oh no! his car catches fire and is rolling towards an intersection! That explodes, setting off a chain reaction of other cars exploding. Meanwhile your fleeing the scene because you got a chic waiting and a new car to pick up. Looking back you see an ambulance show up to provide assistance to victims of your carnage. And the cops are looking for you. You decide to pull over, get out and duck down an alley before they can spot you....or maybe you can make it to the nearest pay n spray to clean up your ride to help shake them. It's all up to you. An entire city to be obedient in, or wreak havoc in.

It still boils down to whether you like interactive entertainment, or passive entertainment. Interactive is making far greater strides though.

 

[binö]

If you want free-roaming, open-ended gameplay, that's pretty much what GTA IV is. Typical scenario: After you leave the internet cafe with info on the latest car to jack and perhaps to also pick up the chic you emailed to meet up with, you run into some bad traffic, with the one in front being particularly irksome.
Rather than practicing real life suppression techniques, you decide to take that person out of the seat and teach him how to drive...but he puts up a fight and starts driving off before you can, so you take out your shotgun and and blast a few holes in his engine bay (perhaps too many) and oh no! his car catches fire and is rolling towards an intersection! That explodes, setting off a chain reaction of other cars exploding. Meanwhile your fleeing the scene because you got a chic waiting and a new car to pick up. Looking back you see an ambulance show up to provide assistance to victims of your carnage. And the cops are looking for you. You decide to pull over, get out and duck down an alley before they can spot you....or maybe you can make it to the nearest pay n spray to clean up your ride to help shake them. It's all up to you. An entire city to be obedient in, or wreak havoc in.

It still boils down to whether you like interactive entertainment, or passive entertainment. Interactive is making far greater strides though.

what about my madden scenario,will that ever come to fruitation?
my gamer dork friend says never, they won't program it into the game

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

what about my madden scenario,will that ever come to fruitation?
my gamer dork friend says never, they won't program it into the game

Like nimbus said, even if it were possible, there's no company alive that would be able to get away with coding all that stuff into a game. Haven't you heard of the stink the libs raised over GTA: San Andreas and the "hidden" sex mini game? That was like Sesame St. compared to what you're looking for lol.
There has to still be at least some method to the madness.

 

[xrsist]

world wide exploring is what you would want
say you played shit in madden one game and after trashing the locker room you head to the airport catch a plane to another country for a coke fueled weekend away before back to training again on monday morning..

 

[binö]

world wide exploring is what you would want
say you played shit in madden one game and after trashing the locker room you head to the airport catch a plane to another country for a coke fueled weekend away before back to training again on monday morning..

lol that's what i have in mind
at first i was just thinking america but fug it make it earth and make it real time
so if you're catching a flight to madrid, it's gonna take real time hours of you flying...so if you get bored you can trash the plane and wrestle with the pilot.
when "earth" comes out i'm buying a system regardless of cost

 

[nimbus]

lol that's what i have in mind
at first i was just thinking america but fug it make it earth and make it real time
so if you're catching a flight to madrid, it's gonna take real time hours of you flying...so if you get bored you can trash the plane and wrestle with the pilot.
when "earth" comes out i'm buying a system regardless of cost

lol i would give myself about two days of playing earth in a respectable fashion, before i made it my goal to kill every single person

 

[binö]

lol i would give myself about two days of playing earth in a respectable fashion, before i made it my goal to kill every single person

but the odds are you'd be gunned down by police before you got too carried away...for mass destruction you'd have to play for a long time, fug proly yrs, before you developed the connects and could put a scheme together.
i'm thinking real time game, so trying to buy nukes or something like that would be just as difficult as in real life.
proly take a lifetime to get a nuke put together...and if you wanted to construct your own, you'd have to enroll in a nuclear program and get your phd, all in the game.
lol the thought of this game gives me big belly lolz

 

[xrsist]

but the odds are you'd be gunned down by police before you got too carried away...for mass destruction you'd have to play for a long time, fug proly yrs, before you developed the connects and could put a scheme together.
i'm thinking real time game, so trying to buy nukes or something like that would be just as difficult as in real life.
proly take a lifetime to get a nuke put together...and if you wanted to construct your own, you'd have to enroll in a nuclear program and get your phd, all in the game.
lol the thought of this game gives me big belly lolz

real time is a must
endless possibilities with a game like this
the problem is where do you start in life? early teens?

 

[Razorguns]

It can be done. But it requires more manpower to develop an 'expanded universe'. And if it's irrelevent to the gameplay and no one will ever explore it -- most gaming companies will not expand the universe.

Warcraft type games are hard to make on consoles. You only have so much memory available to hold maps, dynamics, particle rules, physics, sounds, textures, etc. needed for a zillion character/environment interactions.

r

 

[75th]

If you want free-roaming, open-ended gameplay, that's pretty much what GTA IV is. Typical scenario: After you leave the internet cafe with info on the latest car to jack and perhaps to also pick up the chic you emailed to meet up with, you run into some bad traffic, with the one in front being particularly irksome.
Rather than practicing real life suppression techniques, you decide to take that person out of the seat and teach him how to drive...but he puts up a fight and starts driving off before you can, so you take out your shotgun and and blast a few holes in his engine bay (perhaps too many) and oh no! his car catches fire and is rolling towards an intersection! That explodes, setting off a chain reaction of other cars exploding. Meanwhile your fleeing the scene because you got a chic waiting and a new car to pick up. Looking back you see an ambulance show up to provide assistance to victims of your carnage. And the cops are looking for you. You decide to pull over, get out and duck down an alley before they can spot you....or maybe you can make it to the nearest pay n spray to clean up your ride to help shake them. It's all up to you. An entire city to be obedient in, or wreak havoc in.

It still boils down to whether you like interactive entertainment, or passive entertainment. Interactive is making far greater strides though.

And my wife asks me why I laugh so much while playing GTA IV.

 

[stosstruppe]

Like Nimbus said, maybe try Postal 2 Bino? It's as close to the "sandbox" mayhem environment you crave. The game is a little dated - which is a bonus if you're running a not so uptodate PC - but it's still mad fun

I personally love pouring petrol over people and setting them alight, or immolating people with Molotov cocktails. Fire cleanses all!11

 

[binö]

real time is a must
endless possibilities with a game like this
the problem is where do you start in life? early teens?

lol you could start off as a baby, but that'd be pretty boring.
proly have to start off as a young adult