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Wonder what deal he got??? Fucking fuck!
I'm pretty sure he won't. Any team that took him would have a huge PR backlash to deal with - season ticket holder cancellations, PETA strikes, etc. Why bother for a guy that hasn't gotten it done so far and by then won't have played a down in two years. I think he's looking at AFL at best. It depends how much money he really has in the bank as to whether that'd be worth his time.
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So now what did this guy do again that was so awful? Run illegal dogfights? Was that it?
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BIKINIMOM said:
ya thats about it.. no big deal to most people.. but when you have his kindof power and money why even do it.. oh ya because you're brain is the size of this . <- .. anyhow i hope he gets fucked up in prison.
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I hope no one looks at him!
Fucking anaimals!
Fucking anaimals!
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Phaded said:
Yea the guy was pretty fucking stoopid to be involved in that sort of activity because it is ILLEGAL. I mean, damn, didn't the guy have enough sense to fill his free time with more *socially acceptable* illegal activities like recreational drugs and hos? LOL
To be honest, I would NEVER harm an animal or any living thing, HOWEVER, I dont find such activity THAT terrible. I'm sorry but the suffering/neglect/torture of children and elderly is a far greater crime in my eyes. Yet few people seem to be outraged anymore. But you see people picketting for ducks and dogs and chickens and guinea pigs.... Just seems that this country has its values a little screwed up.
Everyone is free to have their own opinions and we can just agree to disagree.
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Y_lifter said:
OUCH... so wrong, yet so funny.
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He is a piece of shit just like his younger brother. First the dumb fuck gets caught for weed at an airport. When he isn't giving females herpes, he is busy getting high, and when he isn't doing that, he is hanging dogs and then drowning them in a bucket of water if they don't die from the hanging. I would love to take a bat to his fucking face. You can have more loyality from a dog than you will ever get from a person. Anybody who defends him is even a bigger piece of shit.
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he'll probly find a way to skate on any time, that mf'er
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good riddance. . .what a dipshit. . .
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CMarc said:
I am DEAD serious.
They are dogs. If they were PEOPLE I would be outraged. But they are not.
I think it's fucked up and he should be jailed for his crime for being so FREAKING DUMB but I know of crimes that are far worse that go unpunished every single day so I am not so moved over this one.
As I said, we can agree to disagree.
Killing dogs = not such a big deal.
Killing/raping/fucking up people = VERY BIG DEAL.
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HumanTarget said:
I dont disagree with this sentiment.
Your first statement though sounds like you are blaming the victim. An elderly person who is bedridden and abused in a home doesn't exactly CHOOSE to be a victim anymore than a small child who gets sexually assaulted by a parent/care-giver/trusted adult.... do they?
And there are still others who TRY to fight back and move on, but it is easier said than done sometimes. Not everyone can fight...
I really don't understand human beings sometimes. They get their underoos in a bind over a dog being killed but when they hear of human beings getting killed it is not such a big deal....
The dude deserves to be punished for his crime and should receive no special treatment for his *celebrity* status. When are people going to realize that athletes are NOT role models but highly paid entertainers?
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Random things happen to people and it really is unfortunate. People aren't bred into the lives these dogs were bred into. From when they were born, they were raised to fight and kill or be tortured and killed. These are animals that will do nothing but love unconditionally if their most basic needs are met. To do that to something is horribly evil and sadistic. I'm not disagreeing that it's bad when it happens to people. It's just that these dogs never had a chance and that it really takes a bad fucking person to do this to a creature.
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Lestat said:
you must be living under a rock
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PICK3 said:simmer down
that's just Lestat's attempt at sarcasm.
go detail your yaris
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HumanTarget said:
You know as odd as that point of view is, it seems sound.
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In the CFL we dont have this type of problem
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PICK3 said:The Yaris' days are numbered.
It's a great car ... if you're a teenaged girl
told ya to get the VW Beetle instead
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PICK3 said:
And since you brought it up he also has legal and physical custody of his kids, not like he killed their mother or anything....
Oh wait a minute.... lemme shut the fuck up.
The glove didn't fit...
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PICK3 said:
LOL He is actually the one who does the kooking.
Although, he promised to let me help.
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Lestat said:
Well, don't the people that hunt animals actually eat their meat? Although, I am certain that people eat dog meat too....
If they electrocuted the dogs, wasn't that a relatively swift death? Drowning sounds bad but how else would you dispose of the animals quickly and without a firearm? You think these guys would have just shot them in the head to make it quick.
As I said, I don't think that it is a GOOD thing that there are people who do this sort of thing to animals but in the grand scheme of things I can think of far worse things that happen to innocent HUMANS all the time and nobody really gives a fat rat's ass, matter of fact some board members LAUGH at the suffering of HUMANS so the board will forgive me if I dont shed too many tears.
I suppose that I just dont have the luxury of caring too much about animals right now....
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Lestat said:
Let's see... shooting something with a high powered rifle when you're licensed to do it to control the population vs. hanging, electrocuting, and beating something to death. You really made a sound argument. As usual. People go to jail for poaching animals. If they were in a management position at a financial institution they'd lose their job. You're an idiot.
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PICK3 said:Pic of you with said chef's hat and 7" platform acrylic stiletto heels.
I'll get right on that lfmao
Rabbits are hunted with a .22 caliber rifle frequently.jnevin said:
Large bears can take shots from a high powered rifle and still live.
people go to jail for poaching, not because its inhumane, but because it increases the risk of the population of the animal being poached dropping to dangerous levels.
Again, I'm not arguing that what Vick did should be legal, I'm arguing that it is not deserving of prison time.
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Lestat said:
Shooting a rabbit with a .22 is like shooting a person with a round from an airplane. Pretty quick.
And what about the tax evasion for the money earned on the fights? I'm sure that would have been part of the big picture charges wise, so just look at it that way. What he did was criminal on a number of levels.
not if you hit that rabit in the hind leg.jnevin said:
I find hunting to be inhumane. I think that anyone who enjoys it has an underlying psychological issue. Why do you think Cheney is a fan of shooting defenseless quail!
I don't think anyone should go to prison for it though, no matter how much pleasure they derive from it.
Also, just as a side point, bow hunting is quite popular and there are many non lethal injuries to animals as a result.
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We as humans are at the top of the food chain when in our environment.
We should be OK with killing animals if it is indeed to get food.
Regardless of how.
Different people feel the need for or not re: the humane death of the animal
Killing "animals" for sport, capital gain or pleasure is what I personally have issues with regardless of what kind of animal it is.
We should be OK with killing animals if it is indeed to get food.
Regardless of how.
Different people feel the need for or not re: the humane death of the animal
Killing "animals" for sport, capital gain or pleasure is what I personally have issues with regardless of what kind of animal it is.
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Lestat said:
As opposed to community service? A large fine? Hunting is nowhere near inhumane unless you are baiting to lure animals.
This is pretty graphic....but these are the lucky one B....they are starved...beaten...left tied to poles...and then forced to fight. Bears, Moose, Deer...they rarely see it coming.
http://www.usanimalprotection.org/gypsy100.jpg
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lestat wtf?
BIKINIMOM said:
There are two issues here. The cruelty he expressed towards animals most assuredly expressed itsself in his dealings with humans.
I agree to an extent that more people care about a dumb dog than an unborn child or a kid on the streets or in an abusive home, but for me the equation is this;
Killing dogs = very big deal.
Killing/raping/fucking up people = DEATH PENALTY MATERIAL
I think one can be both upset with Vick and his killing of innocent dogs and STILL hate the animals that prey on children and women.
I am as hard-core as it comes to crimes against children, but I can still be angry with Vick's brutality and I hate PETA and animal rights whack jobs, bt Vick's crimes were especially heinous.
Again many people who abuse animals will abuse humans.
Who knows who his next victim may have been, PLUS a big factor here is the man was so blessed and yet he continued to live the thug life and maintained his arrogant disregard for the law all while being paid over ONE HUNDRED MILLION dollars to play a sport that he really wasn't the top dog in (no pun intended)
You need to factor that in as part of the rage that a man who had it all would stoop to such barbaric behavior.
At least that's my view of the issue
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Lestat said:
You really shouldn't talk on subjects about which you obviously have no clue.
I am a hunter. I must have underlying issues.
Lestat, do you own any leather? Do you eat meat? Do much hunting? Ever even shot a bow?
Then STFU about hunting, you really are just coming off as ignorant.
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Cal_21 said:
lol
imagine him sapp (if moss was still there)
lol get pacman too
go ahead and get bent out of shape if you want, but I think hunting is cruel and fucked up. my opinion.mountain muscle said:
I also know that killing animals as a child is a precursor for serial killers and other deviant behavior.
I'm ignorant on the subject? I've been on enough hunts to know that it makes me feel sick. I can't describe the feeling, its like my mind gets stuck around the image of a wounded animal and replays for hours after the hunt is over.
Very similar to once in high school when I was in a bronco and my friend ran over a dog (an accident) but I was traumatized, couldn't stop thinking about the poor thing.
Same feeling I get from hunting. If you want to take offense at that, go ahead, but keep your ignorant comments to yourself.
Yes I have hunted. Yes I have shot a compound bow.
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Lestat said:
I am not getting bent out of shape. I didn't claim people had some mental problem if they hunt.
If you don't like to, don't do it then. You did say you went on a "hunt" and none of the meat was eaten? That wasn't a hunt.
Torturing and mutilating animals is one possible trait of a serial killer. I am amazed that you feign such compassion and intelligence, yet you lack basic reasoning skills.
Do us all a favor and stick to picture and good bro threads junior.
1st hunt was a rabbit hunt. People kept the pelts, the sold for 2 bucks at the farmers market. Feet sold well too. Most rabbits shot in the side though, sort of ruined the pelts, cutting off the feet was a treat though. I count that as mutilation myself, but I guess if there is a purpose then its not?mountain muscle said:
2nd hunt was for deer, none taken, but if they had I can imagine it would have been eaten, people were looking for a trophy head or a set of horns thought primarily. Saw at least one male get hit but take off running never to be seen again that day. Can only imagine what the rest of that magnificent animal's life was like.
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Lestat said:
Like I said, you have never been on a real hunt and do not know what you are talking about. If you did you would know that the hunt is not about killing.
First off I think it was a bonding/social event for all participants. The idea was to have a good time with the other three people, and practice skills, tracking, marksmanship, etc.mountain muscle said:
When it came to the actually killing/shooting it seemed to be about the spoils (nice pelt, feet, or antlers) or bragging rights, good tracking, nice shot.
I agree with you, the guy is an idiot (Vick). That is not enough to throw someone in jail, its how he behaves that determines that. My whole point is that I do not think his stupid beavior, even though it touches a nerve with many, is not enough to put someone in Prison.BigRupe said:
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Lestat said:
stat, you do realize that you attempted to equate someone who hunts with having some kind of mental disorder and it being an indicator of a serial killer, while at the same time excusing vick, after having tortured and abused dogs and bankrolling fights and raising and sponsoring this abuse as being an offense that he should be punished with fines?
Care to rethink?
Care to think at all?
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