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Vets: HCG help

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Running a LONG Test Enth Cycle 750 EW

Should I run HCG:

M,W,F @ 500 IU's every week

or

One week out of the month

or

???
 
Whacked said:
Running a LONG Test Enth Cycle 750 EW

Should I run HCG:

M,W,F @ 500 IU's every week

or

One week out of the month

or

???

250IU once or twice a week should do it.
 
How long is LONG? This is an excellent question....I've often wondered the same thing. I would think every week would be over kill. I like every 3-4 weeks at 500/500/500 M,W,F.
 
500iu's EVERY WEEK

Split them up in two different Subq shots.
Ex. 250iu's EVERY Sat/Sun

This really make a difference during long cycles.
 
False.......HCG keeps androgen levels elavated, so therefore you do no want to run it during pct as it will hinder recovery....HCG is best used when "On" as your androgen levels are already through the roof, and the HCG just gets you ready for recovery.

Clomid and Nolva are best used for PCT.
AMGETR said:
500i.u every week throughout. Then in your PCT, you should run 1500i.u's m/w/f for 3 weeks.
 
Muscleup is correct. IF you use HCG during a cycle, your testes should already be up to size and ready for action at the end of your cycle....in other words, there is no reason to take HCG post cycle to wake them up. If you use HCG during a cycle and continue to use it post cycle, all you are doing is increasing the ability of your testes to aromatize androgens.....exactly what you don't want. Remember, HCG mimics LH to stimulate the Leydig cells in the testes. However, it also increases aromatase activity in your Leydig cells.
 
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1-10 would be HCG@250iu's, Sat and Sunday.,,,wait 3 weeks and then start clomid therapy.
Neo22 said:
So how would the hcg cycle go on a 10 week 250-500mg enanthate cycle? I'm curious.
 
ok now im confused as hell. im doing PCT right now because i recently finished my first cycle (a little over four months of about 1g a week of test). my pct is 10,000IU of choriomon HCG a week and 1 20mg nolvadex everyday- was gonna do this for three weeks. so im doing this wrong?
 
muscleup said:
weeks
1-10 would be HCG@250iu's, Sat and Sunday.,,,wait 3 weeks and then start clomid therapy.

So on week 11 you wouldn't want to do hcg 500iu mwf since you would already have been doing the hcg during the cycle? Then you would just do your nolvadex or clomid starting on week 14?
 
Neo22....correct. You either do HCG during a cycle or at the end of a cycle, not both.

a-f-x...no you're not doing anything wrong. Either use HCG during your cycle or after for PCT...but not both during and after. You chose to do it after...that's fine. Try HCG during a cycle next time and see what works better for you. I must say, however, 1 gram of test/week for a first cycle is a little extreme IMO. So is 10,000 iu per week of HCG (post cycle). Your sides effects must have been fairly high, no?
 
no side effects at all. seriously. i got acne but i can deal with that- but i always get acne when i go to the gym four or five times a week and sweat like a pig... the only complaint i have about my first cycle is that i didnt run it for longer than 4 months...
 
a-f-x said:
no side effects at all. seriously. i got acne but i can deal with that- but i always get acne when i go to the gym four or five times a week and sweat like a pig... the only complaint i have about my first cycle is that i didnt run it for longer than 4 months...

I'm curious....what kind of gains did you get? The reason I ask is that usually on a first cycle your gains will be the about the same whether it's 500mg/week or 1000mg/week. The side effects usually increase though.
 
i got "massive" compared to how i looked before the cycle. i packed on a lot of fuckin pounds too... i ate proper, slept proper, and trained proper. my body actually has good definition but i still got a lot of body fat, but im not too worried about that because ive always been a big guy... ive got a huge frame but im pretty well proportioned. before my cycle, i clocked in at around 315 on the doctors scale, then four months later at the end of my cycle i maxed it out at 350 (it doesnt go any higher, so i have no idea what my exact weight is). im 6"3, i had 19.5" arms before my cycle and you couldnt "pinch an inch" of fat, i didnt measure them afterward yet. i look like im about 275, and people find it hard to believe that im over 300... but anyway, ill post some pics after my second cycle, i dropped a little fat but i look a lot leaner then when i started even though it was a "bulking" cycle. i owe a lot to my genetics... of course i didnt do 1 whole g the entire cycle, i started at 500 and ended at 500mg, i just had much more of a drive when i used more juice. i just didnt seem to get the bad side effects.. no noticable gyno, i was the usual angry bastard, i usually have acne but i figure its from sweating at the gym often, and i was hungry as hell. nothing really changed man, it wasnt the extreme problems other people reported, and the "problems" i did have didnt bother me at all.
 
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