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vet grade b12

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Why is vet grade b12 so much cheaper than human grade? It's not half price, or quarter price.

I can get human grade b12 for like $2/1ml @ 1000ug/ml, but vet grade is around $10 for 250 ml bottle.

Is it the ampule that costs so much? Is it that vet grade has fewer safety/health requirements?

Why the huge price difference?
 
this is a very stupid question that can be answered if i did research but i am going to sleep and would love an answer in the morning if someone doesnt mind. I want to know the difference between b5 and b12 what are each.. i dont knwo anythign about them (well i do about b5). good night guys.. you post whores can get a easy one right here.. help me out lata
 
i use the vet stuff without problems. im not gonna pay top dollar just so the box it comes in has a human on it instead of a hourse.
 
this is my take...its my body -my choice!
human grade!


RADAR
 
whats the difference between levis and tommy hilfiger jeans? i picked up a 100ml bottle of b12 1000mcg per ml for 6.99 which is way cheaper than the pharmacy sells the human grade stuff for-plus the human grade requires a script. Look at it this way-if you trust mex vet steroids enough to inject it-then why not trust american-made vet injectables?
 
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RADAR, I'm in agreement with you here. To human grade, my body says "yes," but my wallet says "no."

Why is vet grade so much cheaper?
 
I have used both human and vet grade, and have found absolutely no difference. Therefore, I concluded that the human grade was a waste of money. Sterility was no issue, and efficacy seemed the same.

And yes, I get the 100ml for $6.99 or less.

DrG
 
Okay, here's some really stupid questions.

What do you guys use B-12 for? What are its effects? Is is anabolic? Does it help with recovery? Any sides?

Thanks very much
 
I shouldn't do this, but I will. NEXT TIME USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.

Introduction

Vitamin B12 is a member of the vitamin B complex. It contains cobalt, and so is also known as cobalamin. It is exclusively synthesised by bacteria and is found primarily in meat, eggs and dairy products. There has been considerable research into proposed plant sources of vitamin B12. Fermented soya products, seaweeds, and algae such as spirulina have all been suggested as containing significant B12. However, the present consensus is that any B12 present in plant foods is likely to be unavailable to humans and so these foods should not be relied upon as safe sources. Many vegan foods are supplemented with B12. Vitamin B12 is necessary for the synthesis of red blood cells, the maintenance of the nervous system, and growth and development in children. Deficiency can cause anaemia. Vitamin B12 neuropathy, involving the degeneration of nerve fibres and irreversible neurological damage, can also occur.

Functions

Vitamin B12's primary functions are in the formation of red blood cells and the maintenence of a healthy nervous system. B12 is necessary for the rapid synthesis of DNA during cell division.

This is especially important in tissues where cells are dividing rapidly, particularly the bone marrow tissues responsible for red blood cell formation. This is important for muscle tissue growth.

If B12 deficiency occurs, DNA production is disrupted and abnormal cells called megaloblasts occur. This results in anaemia. Symptoms include excessive tiredness, breathlessness, listlessness, pallor, and poor resistance to infection. Other symptoms can include a smooth, sore tongue and menstrual disorders. Anaemia may also be due to folic acid deficiency, folic acid also being necessary for DNA synthesis.

B12 is also important in maintaining the nervous system. Nerves are surrounded by an insulating fatty sheath comprised of a complex protein called myelin. B12 plays a vital role in the metabolism of fatty acids essential for the maintainence of myelin. Prolonged B12 deficiency can lead to nerve degeneration and irreversible neurological damage.

When deficiency occurs, it is more commonly linked to a failure to effectively absorb B12 from the intestine rather than a dietary deficiency. Absorption of B12 requires the secretion from the cells lining the stomach of a glycoprotein, known as intrinsic factor. The B12-intrinsic factor complex is then absorbed in the ileum (part of the small intestine) in the presence of calcium. Certain people are unable to produce intrinsic factor and the subsequent pernicious anaemia is treated with injections of B12.
Vitamin B12 can be stored in small amounts by the body. Total body store is 2-5mg in adults. Around 80% of this is stored in the liver.

Vitamin B12 is excreted in the bile and is effectively reabsorbed. This is known as enterohepatic circulation. The amount of B12 excreted in the bile can vary from 1 to 10ug (micrograms) a day. People on diets low in B12, including vegans and some vegetarians, may be obtaining more B12 from reabsorption than from dietary sources. Reabsorption is the reason it can take over 20 years for deficiency disease to develop in people changing to diets absent in B12. In comparison, if B12 deficiency is due to a failure in absorption it can take only 3 years for deficiency disease to occur.

B12 has very low toxicity and high intakes are not thought to be dangerous.
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DrG
 
I got mine from calvet. It's a vedco 100ml, and it's awesome stuff. The customer service there blows dick, so be aware of that.
 
So you guys say that b12 is working, and that is nice to know.

However, I wonder why the price is so much lower? If it's the same shit, it should cost about the same price, no?
 
It's all about branding, labeling and making a buck. For example, I grow the same whether I shoot a gram of vet gear or a gram of human gear - I've compared, trust me (QV vs. Organon, Zambon vs. Stanozolic, etc). But the vet is soo much cheaper that now I pretty much stick to it or UG gear, unless the human grade is a bargain or I want something special (like Primo). No more $8/ml for 250mg. Same goes for B12 - I've done the back to back, and I think human grade is just marketing hype.

Others may disagree based on their experience. This is JMHO.

DrG
 
i did a search but dont get any good results.. why do you shoot b12? what is the significance of this? Is it bad to have too much B in your body? I started taken 600mg pills of b5 for my skin.
 
drgoodbody said:
It's all about branding, labeling and making a buck. For example, I grow the same whether I shoot a gram of vet gear or a gram of human gear - I've compared, trust me (QV vs. Organon, Zambon vs. Stanozolic, etc). But the vet is soo much cheaper that now I pretty much stick to it or UG gear, unless the human grade is a bargain or I want something special (like Primo). No more $8/ml for 250mg. Same goes for B12 - I've done the back to back, and I think human grade is just marketing hype.

Others may disagree based on their experience. This is JMHO.

DrG

You are not looking at the whole picture.

Human and Vet Grade from respectable countries is fine. Vet grade B-12 from the US is just as good as human grade. You are right.

But, with UG gear you are taking a risk, it could be good, but it could be bad. Same thing goes with Mexico

I will admit Mexico cleaned up there act this last year and a half but at one point it was absolute garbage. That's why the UG labs took off in the first place. Now QV is the best mexican stuff but who knows how long it will last. We are lucky and spoiled. A few years ago, it was very hard to locate low price quality gear
 
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