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Very new, just started 1st crappy cycle. advice?

wayneboard1 said:
I would forget the above "advice" all together because it is a perfect EGGzample of a bad first cycle. Running 4 compounds for your first go round is just ignorant. When you are new to the game you need to have a solid base, and should have been lifting for a considerable time frame. Also, your diet needs to be in pretty good shape (the diet forum has a ton of very healthy meals depending on your goal). However you are already running something, but you should just run test e for 10-12 weeks. Running so many compounds at once when you are as new as you appear to be can just cause problems. If you start having gyno issues, or bloat, what compound is causing it? You don't know, and will start scrambling to fix the problem. If you start with one compound, then your next cycle add another, then 2 others, or try a new compound alltogether, it's much easier to know what is causing the problem, how your body reacts to each compound, etc. However, you obviously need to learn a LOT more about this game and you have come to the right place. If I were you I would stop this cycle and educate yourself on the PROPER way to do this, what PCT is (in my oopinion PCT is just as if not more important than the cycle itself) proper diet, lifting routine, etc and THEN cycle. Whatever you decide, good luck bro.

I agree with wayne as he brings up a lot of good points.
 
24EggsADay said:
Ok to carry on........ you need to go and do a lot of reading, on this site there is much useful info about PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) as well as a host of stuff one should know before just injecting and popping pills into your body...There is a lot of info all over the internet...go read and learn......or order some useful books on the ins and outs of using steroids.....there are links onthis site where youcan order these books...(nice site huh :>)

Anyway here is a useful hypothetical cycle for your first time.......but i cant beheld liable for any complications......

Test Enantate - Go at about 500mg for 12 weeks
Sustanon - Go with 500mg for 12 weeks simultaneously
D-Bol - Go with 40mg daily for 12 weeks

Into week 10 you can throw in 20 mg per day of Winstrol (stanazol) for 4 weeks from then.

In week 12 you can commence with clomid 5 days on5 days off 5days on......followed up with pregnil after the clomid....

Combine with extra meals during the day.... 5 boiled eggs / tuna / canned fish etc......... and kill it at the gym....

hey presto...you on the way to lookin like an animal.........

but you said you dont want to gain weight etc......so in that case forget all this mission and go run around the block until exhausted everyday....much cheaper...much safer.......4 u!

lastly if you are playing any sport, especially rugby forget Deca.....its detecable for a long long time in the urine etc.....so you will get busted......

Good luck!..

now back to my eggs.....

Talk about blind leading the blind...

Have fun scraping your liver off the ground after 12 weeks of Dbol @ 40mg/day.

500mg of Sust AND 500mg of Test E at the same time? For a 1st cycle?

And WTF kind of PCT is clomid 5 on, 5 off?

Egad.


Bluesman
 
Re: Very new, just started 1st cycle. advice?

Like I said I didnt think it was the best cycle to do but it sounded like a good beginner cycle. But this was the only thing available to me at the time. So I guess ill just stop and keep lifting untill I have a chance to do something better. But I also dont know who to believe on here because it seems like everyone has their own advice and someone else disagrees with then.
Ill just quit this cycle and see what happens
 
tommy2tone said:
welcome to class folks

u've just been schooled by wayneboard


guys research things first and be smart. lots of people will help you after you've helped your self to some knowledge.

good posts wayneboard


Thank you my good man. It's so rare when I know what I'm talking about I have to jump all over it when I do! lol
 
wayneboard1 said:
Thank you my good man. It's so rare when I know what I'm talking about I have to jump all over it when I do! lol

there's a few things i've found to be certain in this world

1. there's always someone smarter and someone dumber than you are
2. there's always someone richer and someone poorer than you are
3. there's always someone bigger and someone smaller than you are
 
Well opinions opinions..... i know that is a staunch cycle, but hey thats what he wants huh, i did say he would be on the road to lookin like an animal....so i wasnt pretending it was pretty. Anyways i have given many a person that as a first cycle and results have been awesome, especially the ones who followed thru right up until the end of the pct. "Clomid 5 days on 5 days off 5 days on is 1 tablet a day for 5 days, then a 5 day break , then 1 tablet a day for 5 days. thats what that means....but i agree...no need to go so large on your first time./....but i always find the people who cum to me for jungle juice...want radical effects...as do i so its my own free opinion to give out. I wasnt misleading or incorrect, so.......but i do agree d-bol for 12 weeks would indeed be over kill....i run it like that, with plentyu of milk thistle, pro hep / and other liver purifying aids....and i can say especially milk thistle aleviates any aches and pains from the liver......again basics...lots of water blah blah......
 
24EggsADay said:
Well opinions opinions..... i know that is a staunch cycle, but hey thats what he wants huh, i did say he would be on the road to lookin like an animal....so i wasnt pretending it was pretty. Anyways i have given many a person that as a first cycle and results have been awesome, especially the ones who followed thru right up until the end of the pct. "Clomid 5 days on 5 days off 5 days on is 1 tablet a day for 5 days, then a 5 day break , then 1 tablet a day for 5 days. thats what that means....but i agree...no need to go so large on your first time./....but i always find the people who cum to me for jungle juice...want radical effects...as do i so its my own free opinion to give out. I wasnt misleading or incorrect, so.......but i do agree d-bol for 12 weeks would indeed be over kill....i run it like that, with plentyu of milk thistle, pro hep / and other liver purifying aids....and i can say especially milk thistle aleviates any aches and pains from the liver......again basics...lots of water blah blah......


Bro,
If you thought that this was a bad idea, why the fuck are you telling a newbie to use it? You need to to shut the fuck up before some ignorant dumb fuck gets hurt using your advice! Now go eat your fucking eggs! :evil:
 
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