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blackbull

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hey guys, I need your help.

I'm 28 y.o. I have been training for about 12 years. I just finished a natural bulk training phase, and am beginning week 4 on my dieting. I am 6'4 " 249 lbs. @11% b.f. right now.

I have been offered the opportunity to go in on a 10 week supply of Deca, and frankly I am curious to try it. However, I do not have any direct experience with steroids, but I believe I have more than enough of a muscular foundation for me to get some pretty good results from it, and perhaps break some longstanding plateaus...

My questions to the forum are:

1. Can I still continue cutting up on Deca? Or do I have to go back to a mass type diet?
Right now I am at 2600 (375p - 200c- 34f) cals w/ 20 mins. of high intensity cardio 3-4 x a week. (BTW I train 3 days on - one day off - two days on - one day off.. repeat )
What modifications if any would I have to make to my diet and training routine ?

2. I had gyno surgery back when I was 13 so obviously "bitch tits" is a concern. Will I have to worry about this with Deca ? I am told that Biotest's M6 (I think) has the same properties as Clomid.

3. Do I take the Deca alone or do I have to stack it with other drugs? (I was only told of Deca, nothing else so far, although I'm sure my source can hook me up)

4. Is 1c a week enough for a guy my size and with my background? Please suggest any dosage or changes...

5. Can you recommend a good book I can read so I can learn more about this area?

Thanks in advance,
-the bull
 
1. Can I still continue cutting up on Deca? Or do I have to go back to a mass type diet?
Right now I am at 2600 (375p - 200c- 34f) cals w/ 20 mins. of high intensity cardio 3-4 x a week. (BTW I train 3 days on - one day off - two days on - one day off.. repeat )
What modifications if any would I have to make to my diet and training routine ?
You can continue to cut up on deca.. It will cause significant bloating and it is more of a mass drug, but you can cut or bulk with any combination of steroids....
2. I had gyno surgery back when I was 13 so obviously "bitch tits" is a concern. Will I have to worry about this with Deca ? I am told that Biotest's M6 (I think) has the same properties as Clomid.
You will not have to worry about estrogen aromitization gyno with deca, since it is progesterone based... Progesterone based gyno is what you will have to worry about, but cases are few and far between and you probably wont be taking high enough doses of deca to have to worry about that unless you are abnormally sensetive to that type of gyno, which I can't say if you are or aren't... If you add testosterone I would certainly use an anti estrogen such as arimidex/liquidex or femara... Clomid should be used post cycle to help bring your hpta back to good working order
3. Do I take the Deca alone or do I have to stack it with other drugs? (I was only told of Deca, nothing else so far, although I'm sure my source can hook me up)
Personally, I wouldn't take deca alone... I'd stack it with another injectable such as testosterone...
4. Is 1c a week enough for a guy my size and with my background? Please suggest any dosage or changes...
It depends on the concentration of the deca... If it is 300mg/ml deca, then I would say that's a good amount to take... 1ml = 1cc, so if the bottle says that your deca is 300mg/ml then you can draw 1cc and you will have 300mg in the syringe...
5. Can you recommend a good book I can read so I can learn more about this area?
You can Check out websites rather than spend money on a book... Take a look over at www.anabolicreview.com/drugprof.htm - lot's of good drug profiles there...
Hope this helps...

YUM
 
blackbull said:
hey guys, I need your help.

I'm 28 y.o. I have been training for about 12 years. I just finished a natural bulk training phase, and am beginning week 4 on my dieting. I am 6'4 " 249 lbs. @11% b.f. right now.

I have been offered the opportunity to go in on a 10 week supply of Deca, and frankly I am curious to try it. However, I do not have any direct experience with steroids, but I believe I have more than enough of a muscular foundation for me to get some pretty good results from it, and perhaps break some longstanding plateaus...

My questions to the forum are:

1. Can I still continue cutting up on Deca? Or do I have to go back to a mass type diet?

Yes. No.

Right now I am at 2600 (375p - 200c- 34f) cals w/ 20 mins. of high intensity cardio 3-4 x a week. (BTW I train 3 days on - one day off - two days on - one day off.. repeat )
What modifications if any would I have to make to my diet and training routine ?

Up the cals by 300 when cutting for drugs, add more cardio length

2. I had gyno surgery back when I was 13 so obviously "bitch tits" is a concern. Will I have to worry about this with Deca ? I am told that Biotest's M6 (I think) has the same properties as Clomid.

Biotest products have no such properties. If you use > 400 mg, it may be a concern, though it rarely causes problems.

3. Do I take the Deca alone or do I have to stack it with other drugs? (I was only told of Deca, nothing else so far, although I'm sure my source can hook me up)

Stack with 250 mg to 500 mg of testosterone

4. Is 1c a week enough for a guy my size and with my background? Please suggest any dosage or changes...

400 mg a week if used with 250 mg test, 600 otherwise

5. Can you recommend a good book I can read so I can learn more about this area?

www.yumyumknowsaboutgear.com

Thanks in advance,
-the bull
 
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