Var/Win/Clen Any Suggestions?

[cmagdy119]

Any suggestions?

I've been using HGH for the last 5 months, I have 7 weeks left and I’m thinking on adding var/cle/winn to the last 6 weeks. I know 2 orals can be really hard on my liver but with injecting hgh twice a day for the last 5 months, I really don't want to add any TEST right now.

HGH 5iu injected twice 5 days on 2 days off
Anavar 45mg ed weeks 1-6
Winstrol 40mg ed weeks 1-6 (it should be 50mg ed but don't have enough)
Clen up to 120mcg weeks 3-6
Ketotifen 2mg every night weeks 4-6
Proviron 25mg ed weeks 2-6
Liv.52 twice ed (2 pills twice) week 1-6 and pct
R+Ala 400mg ed weeks 1-6 and pct
NAC 1000mg ed weeks 1-6 and pct
Milk Thistle 600mg weeks 1-5 and pct

Pct I have Clomid/Nolva, can I get help with PCT? Below what I was thinking on doing.

Clomid
50/50/25/25
Nolva
40/20/10/10

I'm 5.11, 230lbs and would like to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 200-210. Train 6 days a week early mornings. Diet is in check (1 cheating meal and dessert weekly) 500 deficit calories and cardio daily, sometimes twice a day. Below is a sample of my diet.

5:30am On whey/8oz skim milk/On BCAAs
5:30am 3 hard boiled white eggs
5:30am 1/2 banana

9:30am On whey/8oz water/On Glutamine
10:00am 3 hard boiled white eggs
10:00am 1/2 banana

1:00pm 8oz chicken breast or Tuna Pasta
1:00pm 1 whole wheat bun

3:30pm On whey/8oz water

6:00pm 8oz chicken breast
6:00pm 1/2 cup rice
6:00pm 1cup fat free black beans

9:00pm On casein/8oz skim milk/4oz water/ On BCAAs

If you guys have any suggestions, I will definitely listen to and make the changes where I can.
Thanks.
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[d_rson]

Do you macros on your diet. Just looking at it, looks much lower than simply 500 calorie deficit.

 

[cmagdy119]

It was kind of like a sample of my daily diet. 5.11 230lbs maintanance calories are about 3100, doing 2500-2600. I track everything i eat so i should be able to adjust if i am running low on calories.
Thanks!!!

 

[RADAR]

Any suggestions?

I've been using HGH for the last 5 months, I have 7 weeks left and I’m thinking on adding var/cle/winn to the last 6 weeks. I know 2 orals can be really hard on my liver but with injecting hgh twice a day for the last 5 months, I really don't want to add any TEST right now.

Pct I have Clomid/Nolva, can I get help with PCT? Below what I was thinking on doing.

Clomid
50/50/25/25
Nolva
40/20/10/10

Thanks.
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Drop The clomid

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I have discount codes on these via pm

Also Personally 2 orals are not a good idea but if you insist on running them add lots of water,ALA, Milk thistle and cranberry extract

 

[cmagdy119]

I know 2 orals are not recomended, i did my blood this morning, will wait for the results and i will do it again after cycle. I'm being as careful as possible with liv.52, nac, na-rala and milk thistle. Clomid is not needed it? Would it work better if i do 6 weeks anavar and follow with 4 weeks winstrol, or should i keep them together and be over with 6 weeks? Thanks for your help.

 

[RADAR]

Keep them together and run short as possible

 

[d_rson]

Duration is harder on the liver than total mg's per day (to a point), so do them together and short if you must. Personally, I'd pick one and stick with it.

 

[wootoom]

Var and Winstrol together?

 

[RADAR]

Var and Winstrol together?

I agree if he is running both it should be as short as possible

 

[joe d]

just drop the winny down to 30mg and you will be fine.

clen sucks. its verry hard on the body and its results can be matched with something far less bad for you. id much rather cycle eca 2 weaks on 2 weaks off.

 

[cmagdy119]

Duration is harder on the liver than total mg's per day (to a point), so do them together and short if you must. Personally, I'd pick one and stick with it.

Thanks
Would it be better to run Var 6 weeks and add winstrol in the last 4 weeks of var? but instead of winstrol 40mg, only 20mg? I should be able to run Var longer and heavier since is less toxic than winn. I may just up the mgs in var and just run it solo 6-8 weeks.

 

[cmagdy119]

just drop the winny down to 30mg and you will be fine.

clen sucks. its verry hard on the body and its results can be matched with something far less bad for you. id much rather cycle eca 2 weaks on 2 weaks off.

I tought about just using an otc fat burner to get the results i want instead of clen. Any suggestion on any fat burner?

 

[cmagdy119]

I've made some changes to be safer in the health department, any suggestion would be appreciated.

HGH 5iu injected twice 5 days on 2 days off CHANGED 4IU ED
ANAVAR 45mg ed weeks 1-6 CHANGED 60MG ED
WINSTROL 40mg ed weeks 1-6 DROPPED
CLEN up to 120mcg weeks 3-6
KETOTIFEN 2mg every night weeks 4-6
Proviron 25mg ed weeks 2-6
Liv.52 twice ed (2 pills twice) week 1-6 and PCT
R+Ala 400mg ed weeks 1-6 and PCT
NAC 1000mg ed weeks 1-6 and PCT
Milk Thistle 600mg weeks 1-5 and PCT

CLOMID
50/50/25/25 DROPPED
NOLVA
40/20/10/10 CHANGED TO 40/40/20/20