var stacker??

[wootoom]

hey everyone i have started to do research on a stack with var. i have heard that enthanate would be good. what are your guys opinions on a stack with var. i would be bulking also. my stats are 6 foot 212lbs about 12-13% body fat. let me know. thanks

 

[JoBu]

Any test will do very nicely...I'm goig to use sust myself in a couple weeks...minimizr injections. Var, test and creatine...you should be golden

 

[Mavy]

Ya probably sust for bulking. There are better CHEAPER choices out there for bulking like dbol.

 

[tboy72]

look in to masterbol!

 

[JoBu]

Try this on for size...

Sust 250mg E3D wks 1-6
Prop 100mg EOD wks 7-10
D-Bol 30mg ED wks 1-3
Var 40mg ED wks 4-10

Might want to adjust the doses based on your experience but the idea is to start off with sust and dbol which would be nice to bulk and then move to prop near the end so you can start PCT immediately after your last shot and swap var in for the dbol to boost your strength and harden up the earlier gains. Of cource you'll need your anti-e's and PCT supplies.

just a thought

Ya probably sust for bulking. There are better CHEAPER choices out there for bulking like dbol.

 

[glennds]

wootoom looks you are going in a similar direction as me. first cycle, var only. second cycle for me anyways, var only. third cycle: trying sus only.

now that i have been on this board a while it seems a lot of us go in this direction. var seems to be the gateway drug of steroids. i am a lean guy and in retrospect i think var may be overrated at least by itself. my fear of needles has lessened considerably and i am not sure the high price of var is worth it.

another thing. i did not want to admit this to myself but i think var shut me down badly after my last cycle ended. for almost two weeks my libido was virtually nonexistent and i felt kinda down in the down in the dumps. i am happy to say i am 100% back to normal mood and libido wise but this was a lesson in the importance of PCT. EVEN FOR VAR.

 

[dr0832]

glennds what did you use for pct, and how long was your cycle and what dose did you take?

 

[glennds]

6 week cycle of var only, 50 mg/day. NO PCT, and i think i paid the price. live and learn.

 

[jubei]

I'd go with:

Week 1-12 var 40mg/day
Week 1-10 eq 500mg/week
anastrazole .5mg eod
>100mg test prop eod if you feel the need<

Should get some very nice bloat free lbm from that one.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I'd go with:

Week 1-12 var 40mg/day
Week 1-10 eq 500mg/week
anastrazole .5mg eod
>100mg test prop eod if you feel the need<

Should get some very nice bloat free lbm from that one.

Agreed! I would also add in 20grams a day of Creatine through out your use of the Var. The strength gains and pumps from that cycle should be increadable.

M18

 

[jubei]

Yup, i was gonna say creatine too. The only reason I omitted it was many ppl on here say they get massive bloat from it. Also I like using creatine POST CYCLE to hold onto strength gains.

 

[wootoom]

has anyone seen any side effects from test enthanate???? i would like to keep the injections down to 1 or 2 times a week. preferabbly just one. i wont do a cycle with test for about a year. want to do a little more research.

 

[jubei]

I don't understand your question about test enth. Of course ppl have noticed side effects from it. Water retention, acne, gyno, etc.

 

[wootoom]

well thats all i was wondering. i just wanted to know if anyone has been on it without any sides.

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

I got to agree with Jubei, I'm running Var, Deca and Eq right now. I'm using IP var which doesnt seem to be working all that well, but the Eq is on point. I will definately run Eq and quality Var again. Vascularity and strength are coming along nicely. The only change I would make is running some test instead of Deca.

 

[glennds]

IThe only change I would make is running some test instead of Deca.

why?

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

I like how I felt on the Test, and the Deca is givin me night sweats. Plus the size factor.

 

[glennds]

I like how I felt on the Test...Plus the size factor.

WPC, can you please elaborate. ever do sus? if yes, what did you think. i am starting my third cycle in a few days and will be my first nonoral one.

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

Sus is what I used for my first 2 cycles, the first I ran 250mg on Monday and Thursday. The second I ran 325mg every Monday and Thursday. If you are going to continue to do juice, Sus is a great way to build a decent base. I gaine nearly 30 pounds off the 1st 7 week cycle. I ended up keeping only about 15, but it was pretty good quality gain after losing the bloat. Which I have to add was plentiful. My main reason for starting to juice was because I am genetically small (I graduated H.S. back in '94 at a whopping 140 pounds) after lifting heavily in the Corps (up until I tore my ACl) I plateaued at 165. I'm now sitting at 185 plus or minus 2 or 3 pounds. After my 1st cycle I was at 193 but like I said it was alot of water. At first I didn't really care so much about strength, but more about size which I definately got from Sus. Now I want the quality, which is why I turned to Eq and Var. My next cycle will include Test, Tren, Var, and Eq. I am by no means an expert nor do I have a vast knowledge about AAS, but I do know my personal experiences and results from the ones I've used thus far. Hope this helped!

 

[wootoom]

good post wolfpack. thanks for the reply

 

[jubei]

IP does not make var, or more accurately oxandrolone. Var/eq/prop is a great cycle IMHO. Great gains with minimal sides, although depending on where you get your gear from it could get expensive. Its all who you know I guess.

 

[Juice Authority]

IP doesnt make var?

 

[Mavy]

IP "offers" a few different mg var products ... but it could be dbol, drol, clomid, cialis, or SARS. Test your luck!

 

[Mavy]

I shouldnt bash that chinaman to bad I guess ... I will be running his winny soon. I know its good though, as I have already used some from the same batch. Very good actually.

 

[Juice Authority]

IP "offers" a few different mg var products ... but it could be dbol, drol, clomid, cialis, or SARS. Test your luck!

lol, I'll take 3 bottles on that SARS stuff.

 

[Mavy]

lmfao!!! You will probably get 1 free. I think its buy 3 bottles ... and if you live .. get another one free!

 

[jubei]

Okay, I know IP makes "var" but how much oxandrolone do you think ever made it into the bath tub...er I mean lab.

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

Buy 3 bottles of IP gear? 2 bottles from my old source practically broke the bank!!

 

[glennds]

very helpful wolfpack. karma to you.

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

Which part, and you're welcome. And Karma 2 u 2! And Jubei, I dont think of it as underdose Var, I think of it as a schmorgesh board or juice, for instance, I am running Testa-Poise, and Diana-Var from IP. So where as most people benefit from 1 type of AS I actually get more for my money. See also Equisterone, and Var-Bol.

 

[glennds]

i was referring to your comments about sus and bloat.

 

[WolfPack Charlie]

Ah....No prob. Like I said, since I'm not an expert I can only speak from my personal experience. But I gots to admit, I did look much stronger than I do now although I am MUCH stronger now. I love Test so I think from now on I'll only run Enanthate or Prop, a little Test is managable but Sus and SuperTest IMHO is a little too much.

 

[Mavy]

Which part, and you're welcome. And Karma 2 u 2! And Jubei, I dont think of it as underdose Var, I think of it as a schmorgesh board or juice, for instance, I am running Testa-Poise, and Diana-Var from IP. So where as most people benefit from 1 type of AS I actually get more for my money. See also Equisterone, and Var-Bol.

lmfao! haha to funny bro!