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Var or Tbol?

This is the third thread I have seen started by you. Take the Tbol if you must for orals although I recommend the stronger compound Dbol.
 
I fight as well bro and theres no substitute for EQ,,Increase red blood cells and help u big time....Dball is an anti respitory it will fuk u up..What weight class are u???I hope im not giving u the edge if we ever fight lol...Where r u from??
 
chaquito said:
none of them, both sucks! use tes, deca, dianabol and you will get huge!
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I completely disagree! They do not suck, your mom does though!

LOL, kidding about the Var!

LOL again!
 
I am also an mma fighter bro. Nothing wrong with test e 250mgs/EW along with 40-60mgs of turinabol the first 4 wks. The only probly I had with turinabol were shin pumps durring cardio.
 
Cool thanks guys...Im 185 and from LA pumacorp...I am mainly a BJJ guy but i like mma too. Anyway thanks guys for the input Im cycling EQ right now...just was wondering what would be good to add along with that...I think ill go with the var
 
Stryker1992 said:
I completely disagree! They do not suck, your mom does though!
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Cant you disagree without insults? I mean common, put up a reason you disagree, or some personnal experience to make your point.
 
KD1 said:
Cant you disagree without insults? I mean common, put up a reason you disagree, or some personnal experience to make your point.
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Dude, it is not an insult. It is a complete joke, you know, busting ballz. Locker room talk, etc. Banter amongst bro's.

I K ' d the dude for taking it like a man and knwoing I was totally kidding!

Are you taking too much estrogen???
 
I also fight, bro. Try running Test E (250mgs ew sounds good), but kick start it with T-bol for 4 weeks. Good cycle, good gains, shouldn't affect you cardio (T-bol usually helps mine a little). That said, Var is my favorite, but I don't think it is worth running alone, at least not for what your looking for.
 
Stryker1992 said:
Dude, it is not an insult. It is a complete joke, you know, busting ballz. Locker room talk, etc. Banter amongst bro's.

I K ' d the dude for taking it like a man and knwoing I was totally kidding!

Are you taking too much estrogen???
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Thats what the wink smiley is for - so people know its a joke. Otherwise who knows...

I didnt know estrogen makes you want to stand up to people who are acting like dicks - but I guess you would know more than me. ;)
 
KD1 said:
Thats what the wink smiley is for - so people know its a joke. Otherwise who knows...

I didnt know estrogen makes you want to stand up to people who are acting like dicks - but I guess you would know more than me. ;)
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Nice bro, I give you props, that was a good one. :p
 
It's going to depend on how your body reacts. Every 17AA I've tried has given me back cramps and shin splints and turned even a brisk walk into something to be avoided.
 
KD1 said:
Cant you disagree without insults? I mean common, put up a reason you disagree, or some personnal experience to make your point.
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i really dont care bro. it read something like this once: arguewing in the internet is like para-olimpics, even if you win you are still retarded. btw sorry for my poor english.

if you are going to use aas then why dont you make the better of the situation. if putting mass is your goal, there is better stuff with less sides. anavar and tbol are hard on the lipids. look att that post ( i thougt it was dieselgunz who post it a couple of days ago) about test results and tbol.
 
OMG some people just say shit without reading the post. he is a mma figher. have you ever fought or wrestled people, 3 minutes and you want to puke everywhere. mad props for mma fighters. eq is a god send for mma as well as var. if you had told me before you were fighting i wouldn't even tell you to try tbol even though i love it. var is gonna increase strength the most and strengthen joints and tendons. run the var at a decent dose 60mg or more and rock out with your cock out. dbol is a horrible choice for a figher, with its water retention it is horrible for endurance, i can't even walk up stairs on dbol or test for that matter. my boy in AZ fights mma, got him on eq and var he was out lasting every fighter in his gym within two weeks.
 
Hey bro, I compete in a little MMA (whenever it comes to my state) but mostly Jiu-Jitsu. In my opinion, you wanna definately stay away from dbol. Tbol is good if you're looking for a little strength gain with little weight gain, especially if your dropping weight. I used it to cut down to my fighting weight and it definately helped me keep muscle mass and my cardio was never better. Never tried Var so I can't comment on it, but I'm sure Bruce410 knows what he's talking about. Good luck
 
Bruce, you always know what to say man....how long would I want to run the var at 60mg before my fight....2,3, or 4 weeks...what do you think will allow it to get its maximum results...o yeah is british dragon var bomb?
 
yes bd is very good. orbit, bd, syrus are all good off the top of my head. shit i'd run it 6-8 weeks total and i'd want to be on my last week when i was fighting so is was feeling it the most.
 
bruce410 said:
yes bd is very good. orbit, bd, syrus are all good off the top of my head. shit i'd run it 6-8 weeks total and i'd want to be on my last week when i was fighting so is was feeling it the most.
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bruce, could you clarify this for me as i ordered var(anxiously waiting).

var really has no sides?
var doesn't mess with your natural test levels?
var alone shouldn't need a pct?
var doesn't cause gyno?

these are things i have read and believe to be true. looking for your opinion as it sounds like you've ran var alot.
 
i never said that you don't need pct. it will suppress your natural test levels very slightly and only a mild nolva or clomid pct will be necesary. yes it is side free even at doses of 100mg ed. ive never heard of anyone getting gyno from anavar. lol i have not ran var a lot i just know a lot about it. tbol is also side free and very similar to var but it adds a bit more mass and does not suppress appetite which is sometimes a factor with var. not with everyone
 
yup, listen to bruce410, especially when it comes to avoiding dbol. Even tbol had my back cramping by the 3rd week too, so maybe lower dose test the whole way through, coupled w/ a tbol "kickstart" and var after the tbol until the end (or start the var at a lower dose along w/ the tbol in the beginning...don't wanna take TOO many mg's of orals each day.)

I'm in the middle of a cycle that started with 30mg/30mg var/tbol for 30 days, then 60mg var only for another 30-45 days. Treating me VERY well now that I'm done w/ the Tbol pumps, and I must say I loved the Tbol portion of my cycle...great pumps & strength gains, although I added a few more pounds than I had planned. Maybe next time I'll just include the tbol for the first 3 weeks instead of 4.
 
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