Var or Tbol?

[Cauliflower Ear]

Bruce, you always know what to say man....how long would I want to run the var at 60mg before my fight....2,3, or 4 weeks...what do you think will allow it to get its maximum results...o yeah is british dragon var bomb?

 

[Bruce]

yes bd is very good. orbit, bd, syrus are all good off the top of my head. shit i'd run it 6-8 weeks total and i'd want to be on my last week when i was fighting so is was feeling it the most.

 

[DannoMight]

Eq and halo. tons of fun right there I'm sure.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

Thanks guys yeah halo sounds tight I just dont wanna mess up my liver that bad...I heard that is the worst for that

 

[jagerbombme]

yes bd is very good. orbit, bd, syrus are all good off the top of my head. shit i'd run it 6-8 weeks total and i'd want to be on my last week when i was fighting so is was feeling it the most.

bruce, could you clarify this for me as i ordered var(anxiously waiting).

var really has no sides?
var doesn't mess with your natural test levels?
var alone shouldn't need a pct?
var doesn't cause gyno?

these are things i have read and believe to be true. looking for your opinion as it sounds like you've ran var alot.

 

[Bruce]

i never said that you don't need pct. it will suppress your natural test levels very slightly and only a mild nolva or clomid pct will be necesary. yes it is side free even at doses of 100mg ed. ive never heard of anyone getting gyno from anavar. lol i have not ran var a lot i just know a lot about it. tbol is also side free and very similar to var but it adds a bit more mass and does not suppress appetite which is sometimes a factor with var. not with everyone

 

[KOArtist]

yup, listen to bruce410, especially when it comes to avoiding dbol. Even tbol had my back cramping by the 3rd week too, so maybe lower dose test the whole way through, coupled w/ a tbol "kickstart" and var after the tbol until the end (or start the var at a lower dose along w/ the tbol in the beginning...don't wanna take TOO many mg's of orals each day.)

I'm in the middle of a cycle that started with 30mg/30mg var/tbol for 30 days, then 60mg var only for another 30-45 days. Treating me VERY well now that I'm done w/ the Tbol pumps, and I must say I loved the Tbol portion of my cycle...great pumps & strength gains, although I added a few more pounds than I had planned. Maybe next time I'll just include the tbol for the first 3 weeks instead of 4.