Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have researched enough to see that var will bloat some and not others. the first 2 weeks were great, getting hard amazing pumps at the gym, hard to do cardio though my calves got so pumped. After 2 weeks I must of been up 15 pounds so puffy like a marshmellow, then the acne on my face got horrible. I quit after 5 weeks, now its been 2 weeks off and puffiness going down, acne getting in check. I am so bummed is there any advice to getting some results without so much crappy stuff going on? I have a bunch left, BD 10mgs. I have been training a long time and have done a couple figure comp, so I know how to eat and train, I just want that edge without so much bloat and acne???!!!
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SgtSlaughter
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how did u dose the 10mgs?
SgtSlaughter
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Hopefully some females will be able to help ya out...
but yes, probably should have riden out the 2.5mg longer before bumping it...
Sometimes people's bodies simply don't react well to a certain drug too.
but yes, probably should have riden out the 2.5mg longer before bumping it...
Sometimes people's bodies simply don't react well to a certain drug too.
Take a picture of the var tabs that you have and post it. One of two things you didn't get var bait and switch or you are just extermely senstive in which case you are SOL and have to take the good with the bad. I have hunch though that you didn't get var with the sides you are posting.
SgtSlaughter
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Yup, I thought dbol.superqt4u2nv said:
Yup my thoughts too or even winny. Var does not give me noticiable pumps but winny does.sgtslaughter said:
SgtSlaughter
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Oh... i dunno. Sounded like usual dbol sides... deff needs to post pics or research herself what the tabs are supposed to look like.superqt4u2nv said:
Good point I have never tried d-bol obviously it is not a drug of choice for woman but my man told me when on it he get pumps from just washing his hair.sgtslaughter said:
Sassy69
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I woudl've suggested going at 5 mg ED for 2 weeks --- var takes about 1.5 weeks to show results / see how you react. W/ those sides you may be that sensitive and 5 mg might be enough. But that also begs the question of fakes.... Var tends to be a pretty clean compound so if you want try the cycle again at 5 mg for 2 weeks and see if that's enough, otherwise I'd question your source or get your stuff tested.
here is a pic, very hard to get a good pic, but they are light light peach, one side says 10 the other BD. As much as I researched I really thought they were real, I have seen pics on other boards, but the sides were very strong, I too would get pumps washing my hair, I had to hold up my arm at times. Thank you for all the feedback so far.....
They look like BD tabs from what I can tell but they could be making replicas it is really hard to say I just know your sides sound more like d-bol sides then anavar sides.lhughes said:
nsashbl01
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lhughes said:
Pumps or cramps? I have seen where people are very dehydrated and get those sides. If I'm dehydrated and I even ride a bike I get nasty cramps. Your pics are not clear but it appears to look like bd var. For women, it's always safer to just test before you take. It'll cost you and extra c note, but is well worth the piece of mind IMO.
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As stated.
Var doesnt really aromatize to estrogen - so H20 retention from real var is non-existant.
Without knowing for sure - my guess is that you have tbol
Var doesnt really aromatize to estrogen - so H20 retention from real var is non-existant.
Without knowing for sure - my guess is that you have tbol
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The Shadow
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btw - those look REALLY small to be 10 mg..
DieselGunz
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i always thought BD var was a orange color and the tbol/dbol was pink
the size and color is consitant with tbol or dbol tho judging by sided i think u have tbol
i had bd tbol and it is almost impossible to tell what it is besides getting it tested. IN my case i have never taken dbol so when i was on 40mgs of tbol I KNEW it was tbol because 40mgs of dbol would blow me out of the water
i say STOP better be safe than sorry
the size and color is consitant with tbol or dbol tho judging by sided i think u have tbol
i had bd tbol and it is almost impossible to tell what it is besides getting it tested. IN my case i have never taken dbol so when i was on 40mgs of tbol I KNEW it was tbol because 40mgs of dbol would blow me out of the water
i say STOP better be safe than sorry
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DieselGunz said:
Word Fool!!!
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The Shadow said:
lol i learned it from watching you
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The Shadow
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aw shucks.........
nsashbl01
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The Shadow said:
Bro, var can and does bloat. Especially women. I for example bloat on var, but only see it when I'm less than 10%bf. I personally test my gear also. Many women may not notice the bloat because of bf that is high to start with. Almost every women that I have seen take var did bloat a bit. As for Tbol, way less bloat than var with women. I know four girls that I have seen before during and after Tbol cycles and they were all tighter than when on var. But Tbol is a little more risky as far as sides.
I just looked and BD var is pink. Don't have my camera right now, but they are definatly pink.
Nsashbl I totally agree on the var bloat as I do notice it but only once I get in the lower bf% like under 14%. I thought BD var was peach I have a refrence box but it is from 05 so could be out of date. I have never used BD myself so have no clue.
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nsashbl01 said:
What I stated was that it doesn't not aromatize...water retention from that aspect is non-existant.
There is a lot of research out there on var and water bloat.
Water bloat "from" var comes from the aromatization of the extra test production in general - NOT from the var itself.
If anyone states that there is NO water retention from T-bol.....then that means that the overall test production has not been elevated and there is a great chance that the gear is bunk.
As far as testing gear.....how do you get yours tested??
I was in the laboratory business for 12 years.
Pink is correct as far as the "right" color goes....so we can assume that it is not var.....which leaves what possibilities?
Edited to add:
Whenever we discuss bloat, I think it is worth noting the difference between:
Bloat from the general increase in hormonal level versus the relative amount of aromatization of the compound in question.
Var really cannot convert to estrogen at any reasonable amount.
Neither can T-bol for that matter.
Getting REAL Var isnt as easy to do as one might think.
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nsashbl01
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The Shadow said:
I have just heard so many "var can't bloat" statements and it's just not the case. As far as gear being real, yea many people end up with fake var. I have used a few different metods to test. For a while, I had a friend at a University that could test gear, but that was years ago. Since then I have used SRCS. I don't have var these days since I hate how my body reacts, so it's a non-issue.
I have never been a suporter of women that use untested gear though. Too many risks imo.
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nsashbl01 said:
Var cannot cause water retention due to its structure - ie - non-aromatizing compound.
But yes...ANYTHING that raises Test levels will cause SECONDARY water retention....but its not the var that is doing it.
I did GC/MS testing back in the day
lol
DieselGunz
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good thread me learning
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