Var annndddd?

[needingJuice]

I love posting these "experience" threads and getting all kinds of feedback from you guys, in my opinion they're the best threads to learn from!
So what is everyone's favorite car stack? And how did it treat you guys??

 

[needingJuice]

*var

 

[Judo Tom]

stats/goals would always be nice.. but

to me a stack, 2 or more drugs, should always have test... again for me.. i love test.. makes me feel good, easy sides/no sides, good safe gains..

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Var, test, tren

Or var, test, eq was hella fun too!!!

 

[oxymoron]

Prop + Var for 8 wks with a super clean diet is what I've relied on to clean up after the holidays. Basically recomp.

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[dylangemelli]

test, masteron, anavar and proviron... super fucking shred

 

[RickRock13]

test, masteron, anavar and proviron... super fucking shred

That sounds like a lot of fun right there

 

[dylangemelli]

That sounds like a lot of fun right there

i could see a cycle like that in both of our futures bro!

 

[needingJuice]

Test mast var and provi sounds nice man! Could you give me a ball park and how harsh of a cycle it would be? With all proper cycle support supps would you crash hard?

 

[ALIN]

I love posting these "experience" threads and getting all kinds of feedback from you guys, in my opinion they're the best threads to learn from!
So what is everyone's favorite car stack? And how did it treat you guys??

If I had ANAVAR and the choice of one other item,,,some additional TESTOSTERONE..CYP,ENAN,PROP,SUST..any of those would work just fine.

 

[blue_steel74]

Test E, Mast E, Tren Ace and Var. Currently running it now and util i was put in the hospital for staph last friday, i loved it. But bc of the IV, ive gained some water weight

 

[TheRippedReverend]

test, masteron, anavar and proviron... super fucking shred

I will be doing this!!! One day just one day when my body gets there!

Diggin on killin dat shit.

 

[needingJuice]

So who thinks a simple var and test prop cycle could get you hard? With proper diet. And what kind of dosage would you guts run? 60 -80mgs of var and 300 a week on prop?

 

[dylangemelli]

Test mast var and provi sounds nice man! Could you give me a ball park and how harsh of a cycle it would be? With all proper cycle support supps would you crash hard?

anavar would be the most suppressive of them but you would not crash hard on this cycle... take hcg or hcgenerate and you will be fine man...

 

[dylangemelli]

I will be doing this!!! One day just one day when my body gets there!

Diggin on killin dat shit.

fuck yeah bro, you will love that shit

 

[dylangemelli]

So who thinks a simple var and test prop cycle could get you hard? With proper diet. And what kind of dosage would you guts run? 60 -80mgs of var and 300 a week on prop?

i would go prop 150 mg eod and anavar 60 mg for 4 weeks and 80 mg for 2 weeks... i would run proviron with it as well though...

 

[needingJuice]

I need to do more research on provi man what exactly does it do??

 

[dylangemelli]

I need to do more research on provi man what exactly does it do??

here's a write up for you



Proviron is an oral DHT steroid compound similar to Masteron. Although it is not an ideal compound for building muscle (actually it is not good at all for this purpose), Proviron is helpful in stacks because of its unique ability to keep the body from turning testosterone into estrogen, thus giving the testosterone a better anabolic effect. This aids the bodybuilder in many ways. First, it helps reduce estrogenic side effects of other steroids water-retention, lowered sex drive, gynocomastia, etc. Also, Proviron can help boost the potency of testosterone in the body by freeing testosterone from its binding to sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG).
Proviron is therefore best stacked with testosterone, which makes taking anti-estrogen compounds unnecessary. However, Proviron can cause high blood pressure so blood pressure medication may be required for those prone to hypertension.



Proviron® is the Schering brand name for the oral androgen mesterolone (1 methyl-dihydrotestosterone). Just as with DHT, the activity of this steroid is that of a strong androgen which does not aromatize into estrogen. In clinical situations Proviron is generally used to treat various types of sexual dysfunction, which often result from a low endogenous testosterone level. It can usually reverse problems of sexual disinterest and impotency, and is sometimes used to increase the sperm count. The drug does not stimulate the body to produce testosterone, but is simply an oral androgen substitute that is used to compensate for a lack of the natural male androgen.
Although this steroid is strongly androgenic, the anabolic effect of it is considered too weak for muscle building purposes. This is due to the fact that Proviron is rapidly reduced to inactive metabolites in muscle tissue, a trait also characteristic of dihydrotestosterone. The belief that the weak anabolic nature of this compound indicated a tendency to block the androgen receptor in muscle tissue, thereby reducing the gains of other more potent muscle building steroids, should likewise not be taken seriously. In fact due to its extremely high affinity for plasma binding proteins such as SHBG, Proviron may actually work to increase the activity of other steroids by displacing a higher percentage into a free, unbound state. Among athletes Proviron is primarily used as an anti-estrogen. It is believed to act as an anti-aromatase in the body, preventing or slowing the conversion of steroids into estrogen. The result is somewhat comparable to Arimidex (though less profound), the drug acting to prevent the buildup of estrogen in the body.
The anti-estrogenic properties of Proviron are not unique to this compound. A number of steroids have in fact demonstrated similar activity. Dihydrotestosterone and Masteron (2methyl-dihydrotestosterone) for example have been successfully used as therapies for gynecomastia and breast cancer due to their strong anti-estrogenic effect. It has been suggested that nandrolone may even lower aromatase activity in peripheral tissues where it is more resistant to estrogen conversion (the most active site of nandrolone aromatization seems to be the liver). The anti-estrogenic effect of all of these compounds is presumably caused by their ability to compete with other substrates for binding to the aromatase enzyme. With the aromatase enzyme bound to the steroid, yet being unable to alter it, and inhibiting effect is achieved as it is temporarily blocked from interacting with other hormones.
This drug is also favored by many during contest preparations, when a lower estrogen/high androgen level is particularly sought after. This is especially beneficial when anabolics like Winstrol, oxandrolone and Primobolan are being used alone, as the androgenic content of these drugs is relatively low. Proviron can supplement a well needed androgen, and bring about an increase in the hardness and density of the muscles. Women in particular find a single 25mg tablet will efficiently shift the androgen/estrogen ratio, and can have a great impact on the physique. Since this is such a strong androgen however, extreme caution should be taken with administration. Higher dosages clearly have the potential to cause virilization symptoms quite readily. For this reason females will rarely take more than one tablet per day, and limit the length of intake to no longer than four or five weeks. One tablet used in conjunction with 10 or 20mg of Nolvadex can be even more efficient for muscle hardening, creating an environment where the body is much more inclined to burn off extra body fat (especially in female trouble areas like the hips and thighs).
The typical dosage for men is one to four 25 mg per tablets per day. This is a sufficient amount to prevent gynecomastia, the drug is often used throughout the entire cycle. . Here again Proviron should noticeably benefit the hardness and density of the muscle, while at the same time increasing the tendency to burn off a greater amount of body fat. Proviron is usually well tolerated and side effects (men) are rare with dosages under 100 mg per day. Above this, one may develop an excessively high androgen level and encounter some problems. Typical androgenic side effects include oily skin, acne, body/facial hair growth and exacerbation of a male pattern baldness condition, and may occur even with the use of a moderate dosage. With the strong effect DHT has on the reproductive system, androgenic actions may also include an extreme heightening of male libido. And as discussed earlier, Women should be careful around Proviron. It is an androgen, and as such has the potential to produce virilization symptoms quite readily. This includes, of course, a deepening of the voice, menstrual irregularities, changes in skin texture and clitoral enlargement.
Proviron is also not a c17 alpha alkylated compound, an alteration commonly used with oral anabolic/androgenic steroids. Not using this structure in the case of Proviron removes the notable risk of liver toxicity we normally associate with oral drugs. It is therefore considered a “safe” oral, the user having no need to worry about serious complications with use. This steroid in fact utilizes the same 1-methylation we see present on Primobolan (methenolone), another well tolerated orally active compound. Alkylation at the one position also slows metabolism of the steroid during the first pass, although much less profoundly than 17 alpha alkylation. Likewise Proviron and Primobolan are resistant enough to breakdown to allow therapeutically beneficial blood levels to be achieved, although the overall bioavailability of these compounds is still much lower than methylated oral steroids.
The popularity of Proviron amongst bodybuilders has been increasing in recent years. Many experienced bodybuilders have in fact come to swear by it, incorporating it effectively in most markedly estrogenic cycles. Due to high demand Proviron is now very easy to obtain on the black market. Most versions will be manufactured by Schering, and should cost about $1-$2 per 25 mg tab. This drug is packaged in both push-through strips and small glass vials, so do not let this alarm you. There is currently no need to worry about authenticity with this drug, as no counterfeits are known to exist. If money and availability does not prevent it, Arimidex, Femara, or Aromasin ares actually a much better choice than Proviron though. These drugs were designed specifically as an anti-aromatase, and works much more effectively than anything else we have available.