DaveTSI said:test e will bloat you more and it doesnt sound like you want that, test prop for low bloat leaner gains
lilj888 said:throw a a-i in to reduce bloat also
enacer420nj said:What does the ester have to do with bloat? Ya prop is going to make you harder but test is test...400mg/wk enanthate or prop I dont think it should make that much of a difference
DaveTSI said:yes i does make a difference
prop doesnt make you "harder" than enan, you just have less water covering your muscles with prop.
GdupM6 said:Awesome... Thx for the info Ross..
Now if one was to run a cycle like this, how would you run it?
I would use the sustain alpha rather then derma for the pct. Unless you feel that derma reg works better with the andro?Ross said:If this is your very 1st cycle, most definitely add a small dosage of Testosterone! There are "speciality" cycles for every goal, but for 90% of all cycles, Testosterone should be the base, and not simply for sexual reasons. If that were the case, one would only need some PROVIRON, which increases libido under any condition. Testosterone should be the base of most cycles because it is the PERFECT steroid hormone, posessing a perfect balance of anabolic and androgenic properties, and also facilitating anabolism via numerous other biophysiological pathways. It is the NATURAL male hormone, manufactured by our very own testicles. Quite frankly, nothing can replace it..
Since this is your very 1st cycle, I would suggest Sustanon over Propionate, for a few different reasons. First and foremost, based on the mechanics of the esterification breakdown, Sustanon is superior on a miligram for miligram basis. I won't go in to the science now, but you will experience greater gains in lean muscle mass and strength using 250mg of Sustanon than you would on 400mg or Propionate, that is a guarantee.Testosterone Propionate also requires very frequent injections, and they are also extremely painful, unless you brew it yourself with EO, which you won't be doing.
So long as your Masteron and Anavar are 100% REAL(which is not so easy these days) you can run the cycle as follows:
Weeks 1-10: Anavar, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 100mgs EOD
(Pro-Anabolic Bridge)
Weeks 10-14: Omnibolic
Weeks 10-14: Phyto-Testosterone
(PCT)
Weeks 10-16: AndroGenerator
Weeks 10-16: Dermacrine
Weeks 10-16: Arimidex
Weeks 10-16: *Optional: Clomid or Nolvadex
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