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Var and Masteron Cycle

Wanted to throw on some mass, but ultimately wanted to get shredded and hard. I know cardio and dieting are big factors involved in this, but as far as aas, go, would this combo work ? Has anyone tried it?
 
whats with all the masteron threads in here lately, 90% of the people on here wouldnt benefit from it at all. alot of other drugs to choose from that are more effective, cheaper and more practical. BB's use masteron to when they are going on stage to look harder/leaner, most on here arent lean enough to even see a difference.

test prop and anavar is a much better option imo
 
test e will bloat you more and it doesnt sound like you want that, test prop for low bloat leaner gains
 
Proper diet will control bloat....You have your diet dialed and your training nailed, you will get the most out of your cycle no matter what it is...
 
DaveTSI said:
test e will bloat you more and it doesnt sound like you want that, test prop for low bloat leaner gains

What does the ester have to do with bloat? Ya prop is going to make you harder but test is test...400mg/wk enanthate or prop I dont think it should make that much of a difference
 
lilj888 said:
throw a a-i in to reduce bloat also

That is effective but not the answer...as bw1 said diet is key, most guys eat too much salt and dont drink enough water hence water retention....bloat is a sign of high estrogen which is very anabolic. Alot of guys overuse AI's and it hinders their gains.
 
enacer420nj said:
What does the ester have to do with bloat? Ya prop is going to make you harder but test is test...400mg/wk enanthate or prop I dont think it should make that much of a difference

yes i does make a difference

prop doesnt make you "harder" than enan, you just have less water covering your muscles with prop.
 
DaveTSI said:
yes i does make a difference

prop doesnt make you "harder" than enan, you just have less water covering your muscles with prop.

Exactly, which is why propionate DOES make you "harder" than Enanthate.

As for the original post, Masteron/Anavar is an INCREDIBLE cycle if you are trying to produce an extremely HARD, DENSE, DEFINED, highly striated and highly vascular physique. Not to mention, it is GREAT for sports performance and strength!

Masteron will also provide androgenic support, producing an increased libido, enahanced mood, and great increases in strength. Thus, using Testosterone as a base is NOT necessary when using Masteron, for this precise reason.

It should also be noted that Masteron/Anavar express a strong synergism, which should come as no surprise when analyzing their androgenic:anabolic ratios; Masteron is a PURE androgen and Anavar is a PURE anabolic--both are DHT derivatives as well, resulting in an extremely powerful steroid combination that is MUCH greater than when either compound is used alone.

One may add a low dosage of Testosterone Propionate, such as 100mgs EOD,(I prefer 250mgs Sustanon/wk) in conjunction with Masteron/Anavar for a GREAT lean muscle mass builder.
 
GdupM6 said:
Awesome... Thx for the info Ross..

Now if one was to run a cycle like this, how would you run it?

If this is your very 1st cycle, most definitely add a small dosage of Testosterone! There are "speciality" cycles for every goal, but for 90% of all cycles, Testosterone should be the base, and not simply for sexual reasons. If that were the case, one would only need some PROVIRON, which increases libido under any condition. Testosterone should be the base of most cycles because it is the PERFECT steroid hormone, posessing a perfect balance of anabolic and androgenic properties, and also facilitating anabolism via numerous other biophysiological pathways. It is the NATURAL male hormone, manufactured by our very own testicles. Quite frankly, nothing can replace it..

Since this is your very 1st cycle, I would suggest Sustanon over Propionate, for a few different reasons. First and foremost, based on the mechanics of the esterification breakdown, Sustanon is superior on a miligram for miligram basis. I won't go in to the science now, but you will experience greater gains in lean muscle mass and strength using 250mg of Sustanon than you would on 400mg or Propionate, that is a guarantee. :) Testosterone Propionate also requires very frequent injections, and they are also extremely painful, unless you brew it yourself with EO, which you won't be doing.

So long as your Masteron and Anavar are 100% REAL(which is not so easy these days) you can run the cycle as follows:

Weeks 1-10: Anavar, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 100mgs EOD
(Pro-Anabolic Bridge)
Weeks 10-14: Omnibolic
Weeks 10-14: Phyto-Testosterone
(PCT)
Weeks 10-16: AndroGenerator
Weeks 10-16: Dermacrine
Weeks 10-16: Arimidex
Weeks 10-16: *Optional: Clomid or Nolvadex
 
Ross said:
If this is your very 1st cycle, most definitely add a small dosage of Testosterone! There are "speciality" cycles for every goal, but for 90% of all cycles, Testosterone should be the base, and not simply for sexual reasons. If that were the case, one would only need some PROVIRON, which increases libido under any condition. Testosterone should be the base of most cycles because it is the PERFECT steroid hormone, posessing a perfect balance of anabolic and androgenic properties, and also facilitating anabolism via numerous other biophysiological pathways. It is the NATURAL male hormone, manufactured by our very own testicles. Quite frankly, nothing can replace it..

Since this is your very 1st cycle, I would suggest Sustanon over Propionate, for a few different reasons. First and foremost, based on the mechanics of the esterification breakdown, Sustanon is superior on a miligram for miligram basis. I won't go in to the science now, but you will experience greater gains in lean muscle mass and strength using 250mg of Sustanon than you would on 400mg or Propionate, that is a guarantee. :) Testosterone Propionate also requires very frequent injections, and they are also extremely painful, unless you brew it yourself with EO, which you won't be doing.

So long as your Masteron and Anavar are 100% REAL(which is not so easy these days) you can run the cycle as follows:

Weeks 1-10: Anavar, 40mgs ED
Weeks 1-10: Sustanon, 250mgs
Weeks 1-10: Masteron, 100mgs EOD
(Pro-Anabolic Bridge)
Weeks 10-14: Omnibolic
Weeks 10-14: Phyto-Testosterone
(PCT)
Weeks 10-16: AndroGenerator
Weeks 10-16: Dermacrine
Weeks 10-16: Arimidex
Weeks 10-16: *Optional: Clomid or Nolvadex
I would use the sustain alpha rather then derma for the pct. Unless you feel that derma reg works better with the andro?
 
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