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VAR and EQ????

mhb3939

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Bros...

I have 250x10mg var and 3 vials of BD EQ 200mg/ml...

I was planning on EQ for 14wks 200/300ml/cc a wk and VAR 40mg ED for 9 wks....

Would adding winny be a neg or postive???

I am 180 10% BF and looking to get more "cut"/"hard".....

What is your guys input on VAR/EQ/WINNY stack???
I dont have the winny, it was just a thought to add it, but thought I would ask here 1st..... How would you stack Var/EQ????

Thanx bros...
 
I used to accept (and do) cycles without test. BUT, the more I learn from some of the people here on the forum and the more I think back on cycles I have done which did and did not include some kind of test the more I am in favor of including test. So, maybe throw some test in with it and I think you'll have a pretty good stack. I don't really understand what you have written for a Eq dosage but I would not run any less than 500mg per week. Also I don't run orals more than 8 weeks. Not that 1 more week would make that big of a difference but that is a limit I set for myself.
 
OxyMoron said:
Adding test (or sust) will negate that tho, right?
I'm lookin at starting an eq/var/sust cycle in a month.


Yes, it will.

I'm old school. I believe test should be the base for all cycles.
 
EQ 500mg weekly 1-12
Var 40mg daily weeks 4-12

A little test would be nice, but not really necessary. I don't think you will kill your sex drive at these doses...I didn't.
 
used2juice said:
EQ 500mg weekly 1-12
Var 40mg daily weeks 4-12

used2: Curious, what is the main benefit of running the anavar at the end of the cycle for 8 weeks instead of the beginning, especially as you will not see results for awhile with the EQ? You will still have a long acting ester post-cycle issues if you run EQ all the way to the end. How about front loading the EQ if not going to stack anything at the beginning of the cycle?

mnb, for your goals, IMO, winny would be good at the end of the cycle for 4 weeks.......I would lean toward upping the dosage of Anavar (no less than 50 mg ED) and shortening the cycle length if you have no more product . Starting out the first 6-8 weeks with anavar (maybe 60 mg ED first 4 weeks, then 50 mg remaining 2-3 weeks), and maybe start the winny about Week 10 and end it Week 14, about 2 weeks after the EQ. Watch your orals if you weren't planning depot.

Sounds like a good cycle........I will also share that I have learned that at least a maintenance dose of test is a good thing with most cycles. Good luck with your decisions bro. Keep us posted.......
 
How about just throwing in 125mg TE in there to be safe. I was thinking along those lines.

14 weeks TE 125mg a week
14 weeks EQ 600mg a week
5 weeks Tbol 40mg a day

Or use the var, a bit longer if you like. Otherwise I like that cycle for lean gains, provided u can control...the diet.
 
Zips...

I should start the Var 1st??

I was doing:
EQ 1-14wks 200/300ml/cc a wk
VAR 5-14wks 40mg ED

I should do the VAR 1st wks 1-9 and then start the EQ??

ANYONE????
 
mhb3939 said:
Zips...

I should start the Var 1st??

I was doing:
EQ 1-14wks 200/300ml/cc a wk
VAR 5-14wks 40mg ED

I should do the VAR 1st wks 1-9 and then start the EQ??

ANYONE????

My opinion is to start the var when you start the EQ. Because EQ can take on average 8 weeks to start to reveil itself, you will have the var stoping right as the EQ is kicking in. That way you will get the most out of the cycle throughout it's entireity. Good luck bro.

FYI, I would add a small dose of test to that if it were me. Test E at 250 a week should work just fine.
 
Ok.... So run the VAR from day one with the EQ and run the VAR for 9wks 40mg ED and the EQ 200/300/ml/cc @ 14wks??

So Ill end the last 5 wks doing the EQ only or would this be a good time to add Winny @ 50mg ED for 5 wks???

Thanx again
 
mhb3939 said:
Ok.... So run the VAR from day one with the EQ and run the VAR for 9wks 40mg ED and the EQ 200/300/ml/cc @ 14wks??

So Ill end the last 5 wks doing the EQ only or would this be a good time to add Winny @ 50mg ED for 5 wks???

Thanx again

I would drop the winny and add some test until week 12 at 250 a week. That way you keep your sex drive, and you only go 2 weeks with the eq by itself. I have run this and LOVED it.
 
Thanx bro...

To be honest am not a big test fan....
I will start the VAR with the EQ as you stated though, thats a good idea.
The last 4/5 wks I will add test if I feel I need to...
I would still like to add the Winny the last 5wks...

Has anyones else tried it like this??

EQ 1-14wks 200/300/ml/cc
VAR wks 1-9 40mg ED
Wnny wks 9-14 50mg ED
 
zips92 said:
used2: Curious, what is the main benefit of running the anavar at the end of the cycle for 8 weeks instead of the beginning, especially as you will not see results for awhile with the EQ? You will still have a long acting ester post-cycle issues if you run EQ all the way to the end. How about front loading the EQ if not going to stack anything at the beginning of the cycle?

mnb, for your goals, IMO, winny would be good at the end of the cycle for 4 weeks.......I would lean toward upping the dosage of Anavar (no less than 50 mg ED) and shortening the cycle length if you have no more product . Starting out the first 6-8 weeks with anavar (maybe 60 mg ED first 4 weeks, then 50 mg remaining 2-3 weeks), and maybe start the winny about Week 10 and end it Week 14, about 2 weeks after the EQ. Watch your orals if you weren't planning depot.

Sounds like a good cycle........I will also share that I have learned that at least a maintenance dose of test is a good thing with most cycles. Good luck with your decisions bro. Keep us posted.......

Personal choice really. I like having everything working through the end of my cycle. :) I can forgoe seeing huge strength gains for the first few weeks as long as I get the great benefit of both compounds for the last 9 weeks. Maybe throw winny in at the start if you really wanna use it. But to be honest I wasn't even thinking of that, just thinking about the EQ n var he has on hand.
 
mhb3939 said:
Zips...

I should start the Var 1st??

I was doing:
EQ 1-14wks 200/300ml/cc a wk
VAR 5-14wks 40mg ED

I should do the VAR 1st wks 1-9 and then start the EQ??

No that's not what I meant, sorry if you misinterpreted. I meant/suggested starting the Anavar at the beginning of your cycle in lieu of beginning at say Week 5. I will also mention that I got no results at all with BD Anavar at 40 mg. ED.

You got some good advice from some great bros, keep in mind, none of it may be wrong or better than the others. It strongly depends on what your personal goals are, and especially what you have learned from previous cycles that works best for you, especially considering post-cycle impacts/needs.

I like to complete long acting esters before the end of a cycle, but that is something I have learned over time that has helped me with PCT, without compromising my gains. Hope that helps. Good luck.
 
used2juice said:
Personal choice really. I like having everything working through the end of my cycle. :) I can forgoe seeing huge strength gains for the first few weeks as long as I get the great benefit of both compounds for the last 9 weeks. Maybe throw winny in at the start if you really wanna use it. But to be honest I wasn't even thinking of that, just thinking about the EQ n var he has on hand.

I appreciate your personal choice but it kinda confuses me that you would forgoe gains thru the ENTIRE cycle to have some gains at the end. To me that doesn't seem like a smart way to go about it at all. Not flaming, just saying I see that as a big mistake. Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
wayneboard1 said:
I appreciate your personal choice but it kinda confuses me that you would forgoe gains thru the ENTIRE cycle to have some gains at the end. To me that doesn't seem like a smart way to go about it at all. Not flaming, just saying I see that as a big mistake. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Well usually when I pick out compounds to use, they are ones I have run in the past and (at least kinda) know what to expect. And I don't see anything so incredible in the first 4 weeks of using anavar to make it THAT worthwhile to take alone (or by itself in the first few weeks). I'd rather experience the synergism of the two compounds together. Not only that, but my diet usually takes at least a couple weeks to really get setup. ;) So those first few weeks of a 12 week cycle are spent feeling out the diet and routine anyways. :)
 
used2juice said:
EQ 500mg weekly 1-12
Var 40mg daily weeks 4-12

A little test would be nice, but not really necessary. I don't think you will kill your sex drive at these doses...I didn't.



That was exactly what i was going to suggest
The EQ Will have you vascular & Adding Var that that stage will really harden you up.
Have your diet in check and you will be ripped!

(still a tad bit of test wouldn't hurt but is not really necessary)
RADAR
 
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