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Using over 1 gram of test

androjunkie

androjunkie

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Has anybody ever used 1 gram or more of test by itself and had results that were equal to or better than using less and stacking it with something else? I need some personal experiences. The only reason I ask is that I'm in to my 6th week of a test/var/dbol cycle, and ran out of var. I discontinued the dbol 1week ago, and am currently using 1g test cyp. EW, and 20mgs of btg var ED. I ran out of the var and my guy is out of town for a while so I was wondering if I could just bump up the test to 1200mgs and still do as well without the var. I don't want to use the dbol anymore for this cycle as it was murdering my appetite(well that and the arimidex). So what do you guys think? I'm making awesome gains on this cycle and have dropped a lot of bf so I'd hate to cut it short.
 
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androjunkie said:
Has anybody ever used 1 gram or more of test by itself and had results that were equal to or better than using less and stacking it with something else?
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You gotta be fucking kidding me.....

More is not better......

Why can't you people understand that?

:rolleyes:
 
I can't see a single reason to use over 1g of test unless you're a pro and this could make the difference. I'd rather keep test at a reasonable dosage and stack it with something else.
 
I call B.S. on those that say you can't go over a gm of test...

It depends on your body weight, musculature, and how many times you've done test in the past in high quantities.... I've done 1gm of test per week during a test only cycle with good gains. The only downside is that when you start pumping test up that high, you have to use something like arimidex to combat the aromatizing and subsequent estrogen flood. Otherwise you'll end up with a limp dick and unwanted sides like gyno...

But if you're not sure, just keep it at 1gm...
 
I see nothing wrong with using that much test. I personally wouldn't.

Throw in an anti-e and some finasteride and your good to go.

I don't see how its much different than doing 500mgtest/500mgdeca.
 
Look guys, I'm also on HRT of 100mgs test cyp EW, and that is part of the 1g. I didn't ask to be flamed, I asked for personal experiences, I'm well aware of how my body tolerates AS. House of pain, K to you. If the rest of you are just concerned about my well being, than I appreciate that, but if you're just chiming in to flame thats not cool.
 
psychedout said:
I see nothing wrong with using that much test. I personally wouldn't.

Throw in an anti-e and some finasteride and your good to go.

I don't see how its much different than doing 500mgtest/500mgdeca.
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I'm currently on arimidex.
 
IwouldSlamU said:
people break 2g's on here all the time
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Thats why I don't understand the flames. Its not like I'm a newbie asking if I can take 1g of sus for my 1st cycle with no e-blockers.
 
i personally dont think i would do more then 500 mg's a week of test, but i was wondering......if you ran 300 mg's of test a week for 10 weeks your body will stop producing its own test not too far in to the cycle right? and when you quit your gonna be shut down too. so then they only difference i see in using 300 mg's of test or 1 gram of test a week is you will have more test in your system. so the only problem i see will be more possability for sides. some pepole get sides and some pepole dont, so if you happen to be one who dosent get sides i dont see why it wouldnt be ok to use a gram a week, just as long as you had some aremidex and other goodies on hand. this is just a theory and im probably wrong, so can anyone tell me why my assumption here is wrong?
i dont think anyone has died from an od from test.
 
androjunkie said:
Thats why I don't understand the flames. Its not like I'm a newbie asking if I can take 1g of sus for my 1st cycle with no e-blockers.
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LOL, I didnt flame...I told you WHAT would happen to me if I took that much :eek2:
(we need a bigfoot icon :D)
 
I never could see a difference between 500mg of Test compared to 1g. I had the similar results. In order to grow you need to eat like a hoarse but balanced with the right amount of Proteins, Carbs and Fats and lift intensely. Steroids are just the icing on the cake.


androjunkie said:
Has anybody ever used 1 gram or more of test by itself and had results that were equal to or better than using less and stacking it with something else? I need some personal experiences. The only reason I ask is that I'm in to my 6th week of a test/var/dbol cycle, and ran out of var. I discontinued the dbol 1week ago, and am currently using 1g test cyp. EW, and 20mgs of btg var ED. I ran out of the var and my guy is out of town for a while so I was wondering if I could just bump up the test to 1200mgs and still do as well without the var. I don't want to use the dbol anymore for this cycle as it was murdering my appetite(well that and the arimidex). So what do you guys think? I'm making awesome gains on this cycle and have dropped a lot of bf so I'd hate to cut it short.
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I have gone over 1 gram on test several times. My last cycle was 1 gram Test-E and 1 gram EQ/week (13 weeks). The difference was how i would eat. When i ate heavy and clean i blew up. When I didnt have the time to eat correctly i didnt gain much at all. This just reinforces the fact that diet has as much to do with how big (or small) you are, more than any amount of AS will do for you. My favorite stack to this day is your basic Deca and dbol. I can use small amounts of both and gain as much as i want, even clean keepable pounds when i eat correctly.
 
look. ive gone as high as 1.5 grams and next cycle this winter im going with 2 with lots and lots of other drugs..i cant disclose what for..but lets just say more is better when your bigger..if your a twig then lay off the juice, if your modertly sized go moderate doseages, if your huge and cant grow anymore its time to up that shit to the max and start maxing all the good drugs... there is a process to everything..yes 2 grams is fine, but you have to make up your own mind and know wether your READY personaly were your at to handle it OR even need it....
 
androjunkie said:
Has anybody ever used 1 gram or more of test by itself and had results that were equal to or better than using less and stacking it with something else? I need some personal experiences. The only reason I ask is that I'm in to my 6th week of a test/var/dbol cycle, and ran out of var. I discontinued the dbol 1week ago, and am currently using 1g test cyp. EW, and 20mgs of btg var ED. I ran out of the var and my guy is out of town for a while so I was wondering if I could just bump up the test to 1200mgs and still do as well without the var. I don't want to use the dbol anymore for this cycle as it was murdering my appetite(well that and the arimidex). So what do you guys think? I'm making awesome gains on this cycle and have dropped a lot of bf so I'd hate to cut it short.
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After lots of research, it definitely comes down to more not neccessarily being better. For one you will saturate the receptors alot quicker with higher dosages thus decreasing the effects of the steroid later in the cycle. Secondly when comparing the overall end results to the side effects from the higher dosages, it comes down to just not being worth it. For example just because you gained 12lbs from a 500mg cycle doesn't mean that you will gain 24lbs from a 1g cycle, however it does mean that you will increase the chances twice fold of getting some very nasty side effects!
 
androjunkie said:
Who ever said I wasn't growing? Galaxy, you're the last one I expected to flame me, seeing as though you've run a lot more stuff than that.
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Im sure he has but im guessing that your physique is no where near Galaxy's..and thats not a flame!!! I just think most people bs about their size or run cycles that are just way too much for their size!!!
 
BLACKDOOG said:
I never could see a difference between 500mg of Test compared to 1g. I had the similar results. In order to grow you need to eat like a hoarse but balanced with the right amount of Proteins, Carbs and Fats and lift intensely. Steroids are just the icing on the cake.
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So then what is the ideal amount for maximum growth for the average person? 500mgs a week?
 
wnt2bBeast said:
Im sure he has but im guessing that your physique is no where near Galaxy's..and thats not a flame!!! I just think most people bs about their size or run cycles that are just way too much for their size!!!
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No, my physique is not equal to Galaxy's, but out of the 5 people that first taught me how to use juice 3 of them do. How do you think Galaxy came to look the way he does now? Certainly not by using low doses, and thats not heresay either, I've read some of his cycles that he's posted on here. I'm not a small guy, trust me. I also want to add that I'm not saying that everybody should use excessive amounts of juice, you should get to know how your body handles it before raising the amounts. My first cycle was 250mgs sus EW.
 
bigmk said:
I have gone over 1 gram on test several times. My last cycle was 1 gram Test-E and 1 gram EQ/week (13 weeks). The difference was how i would eat. When i ate heavy and clean i blew up. When I didnt have the time to eat correctly i didnt gain much at all. This just reinforces the fact that diet has as much to do with how big (or small) you are, more than any amount of AS will do for you. My favorite stack to this day is your basic Deca and dbol. I can use small amounts of both and gain as much as i want, even clean keepable pounds when i eat correctly.
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Excellent post!
 
biteme said:
So then what is the ideal amount for maximum growth for the average person? 500mgs a week?
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The ideal amount varies for each person.

Diet in check, training in check, once you've increased your size by ~30% naturally, youi're probably not gonna gain much more. If you want to continue to grow past that, then you're at the point to consider steroids.

How much juice do you need?

there is a lot of debate on this, and this will probably be considered controversial, but I'd say: As little as necessary. This will minimize the side effects, but allow you to still make gains. You'll have a more natural look; less like a bloated steroid pig.

if you're naturally peaked and your T levels are 900 (pretty high), Taking 250mg Test/wk will give you a huge boost. Sure, the more you take, the more results you'll get, but you'll also get more sides. Backne sucks. hair loss sucks. High cholesterol sucks. Prostate hypertrophy sucks. Mood swings and extreme horniness can also be annoying.
 
My next cycle is going to be 1 gram of test per week. Nothing else.
 
Singleton said:
Backne sucks. hair loss sucks. High cholesterol sucks. Prostate hypertrophy sucks. Mood swings and extreme horniness can also be annoying.
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I hardly ever get acne for some reason(thank God), I haven't experienced any hairloss, and prostate is good, but mood swings and extreme horniness, I can definately relate to. LOL
 
hammertime30 said:
After lots of research, it definitely comes down to more not neccessarily being better. For one you will saturate the receptors alot quicker with higher dosages thus decreasing the effects of the steroid later in the cycle. Secondly when comparing the overall end results to the side effects from the higher dosages, it comes down to just not being worth it. For example just because you gained 12lbs from a 500mg cycle doesn't mean that you will gain 24lbs from a 1g cycle, however it does mean that you will increase the chances twice fold of getting some very nasty side effects!
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BDTR over at Anabolic review conducted a test on 2 subjects who have never taken steroids ever, with about the same bench and size, well one he gave 500mgs EW of test, and the other 2 GRAMS of test(proper anties of course) the one of 500mgs EW gained something like 32lbs and keept 20 some lbs, well the one of 2 grams gained 49lbs and kept 40!!!! more DOES make you grow more...heres the link
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=114176 its a verry good study, it shows higher IS better.....
 
dali said:
It's the var that was suppressing your appetite. D-bol will make you want to eat more if anything.
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I'm pretty sure they use dbol to stimulate appetite and weight gain in cancer patients and such.
 
Barbarian04 said:
BDTR over at Anabolic review conducted a test on 2 subjects who have never taken steroids ever, with about the same bench and size, well one he gave 500mgs EW of test, and the other 2 GRAMS of test(proper anties of course) the one of 500mgs EW gained something like 32lbs and keept 20 some lbs, well the one of 2 grams gained 49lbs and kept 40!!!! more DOES make you grow more...heres the link
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=114176 its a verry good study, it shows higher IS better.....
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It's no question that more will provide greater gains...the issue is that, will the gains achieved by using more gear out weigh the side effects? Think about, the studies show that the person using 4 times the amount of gear only gained about 35 to 40% percent more in weight...Is that really worth the amount of sides from using that much gear! Plus I'm not completely sold by that experiment because genetics also play a major role.
 
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eh....

androjunkie said:
If the rest of you are just concerned about my well being, than I appreciate that, but if you're just chiming in to flame thats not cool.
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I'm trying to help you out......and if flaming you will get it through your head, then I'm all about that.

Just because people regularly go over 1G of Test doesn't mean it's appropriate for you.

I'm not here just to bash you, bro.......just to help ya'

:chomp:
 
houseofpain said:
I call B.S. on those that say you can't go over a gm of test...

It depends on your body weight, musculature, and how many times you've done test in the past in high quantities.... I've done 1gm of test per week during a test only cycle with good gains. The only downside is that when you start pumping test up that high, you have to use something like arimidex to combat the aromatizing and subsequent estrogen flood. Otherwise you'll end up with a limp dick and unwanted sides like gyno...

But if you're not sure, just keep it at 1gm...
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Well, if that's you in your avatar I'm gonna dispute the 'good gains' claim. You don't look like a guy who's ever gone much over 500mg/week.
 
Re: eh....

DIVISION said:
I'm trying to help you out......and if flaming you will get it through your head, then I'm all about that.

Just because people regularly go over 1G of Test doesn't mean it's appropriate for you.

I'm not here just to bash you, bro.......just to help ya'

:chomp:
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I'm glad you cleared that up, no hard feelings. :D
 
Double the gear (in most cases) doesnt equate to double the gains. But double the gear also doesn't necessarily equate to double the sides either. (Both are oversimplifications of a very complex process that can react very differently in different people). You also can't oversimplify by saying that no one's body type can take advantage of test levels over 500mg per week either.
 
I have went 1500 mg a week to see what would happen myself. I did not notice alot of difference from from using 750 a week. Like someone else said if you eat more it definitly helps. I will stick with 500-750 from now on. Also my dick was starting to get a little soft. I though it would make is harder but nope. lol
 
I don't know what the big fuss is about every guy here at EF thay we consider "big" falls in at least these two catigories.

they take large amounts.....or....they stay on (amounts not withstanding.)
 
dali said:
It's the var that was suppressing your appetite. D-bol will make you want to eat more if anything.
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I'm positive it was partly if not mostly due to the dbol, when I discontinued it my appetite increased quite a bit. IMO the thing that hurt it the most is the a-dex.
 
I'm saved! I picked up more var yesterday, so I only missed taking it for 2 days. I did increase my test dosage to 1100mgs when I thought I wouldn't be able to get more in the near future, so I'll drop back to 1g now that I've got more var. I do want to add that since I stopped the dbol and I've been able to eat more, I've been making excellent progress. Its a beautiful thing when you can eat everything in sight, including desserts, and not gain any bf.
 
i've broken the i gram a week barrier once, and that was using brovel eth, garbage. did not see anything amazing.
 
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