Using Nolv/Proviron and nips are STILL sore

[Nighthawkk]

I'm using 20mg nolv and 25mg of proviron daily for almost two weeks now, and my nipples are still very puffy and sore. My stack includes 40mg dbol daily, 250mg Sust every third day, and 400mg deca weekly. I don't want to up the proviron dose because I get wood all day long, so should I just increase the nolvadex dose? K for help, thanks

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I find 40 mg of nolva a day works well for me, but expect a drop in igf-1 levels if youdo this. It will impede you gains slightly, however it is a better alternative to gyno. Your other choice is to drop the dbol which is probably the main culpret in this case.

 

[muscleup]

I bet it's the deca...You need bromo or dostinex

 

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As muscleup said, and have you thought about trying some HCG?

 

[Juice Authority]

Maybe the estrogen build up from the Test and D-bol are root cause of the puffy/sore nips. Nolva just prevents estrogen from binding to the AR. It doesn't eliminate the formation of estrogen like Aromasin, femara or arimidex. Instead of upping the dose on Nolva why not just add .5mg ed or 1mg eod of arimidex since it stops estrogen from forming? Aromasin would be the ideal option (if you can find it at a reasonable price) since it doesn't mess up you lipid profiles.

 

[DIVISION]

I'm using 20mg nolv and 25mg of proviron daily for almost two weeks now, and my nipples are still very puffy and sore. My stack includes 40mg dbol daily, 250mg Sust every third day, and 400mg deca weekly. I don't want to up the proviron dose because I get wood all day long, so should I just increase the nolvadex dose? K for help, thanks

Evidently you are susceptible to gyno; I'd increase the Novladex to 50MG ed and see if that helps. Leave the Proviron @ 25MG ed.

 

[DIVISION]

Instead of upping the dose on Nolva why not just add .5mg ed or 1mg eod of arimidex since it stops estrogen from forming? Aromasin would be the ideal option.

No.

It's best to try 50MG Nolva ed and THEN if the symptoms don't subside, I'd say leave out the Proviron and try Arimidex @ 1MG ed.

 

[Nighthawkk]

I know it's not the deca because I've run the same exact doses once before, but without the dbol in a past cycle. Now that I have a moderately high dbol dose, wham!...sore nips. I'm almost done with them anyways, but I just don't want any gyno to continue to form. I'll try the 40mg nolv daily and see how that goes...

 

[Juice Authority]

No.

It's best to try 50MG Nolva ed and THEN if the symptoms don't subside, I'd say leave out the Proviron and try Arimidex @ 1MG ed.

50mgs of Nolva ed is sure to inhibit gains. I am very gyno prone and a 1mg of arimidex with 10-20mgs of Nolva does the trick for me.

 

[b1ewsw32]

I bet it's the deca...You need bromo or dostinex

Bingo...try to throw in above mentioned or a dash of stanazolol into your brew.
Also I would switch to an anti-e, preferably aromasin if available and affordable.

Good luck B32

 

[TxLonghorn]

Just because you've run a similar dosage in the past without problems doesn't necessarily mean it's not causing problems now. But let's just say for the sake of argument that it isn't the deca and that you have never run this high a dose of dbol before.

If that's the case, I'd drop the dbol entirely and up the nolva to 40mg/day. If that doesn't cause a noticeable difference in your gyno symptoms you will more than likely need to either find a more potent anti-e (nolva doesn't seem to do diddly for me) or start wondering if the deca isn't causing some problems.

 

[TxLonghorn]

As muscleup said, and have you thought about trying some HCG?

Why hcg? At this point it would only increase his gyno problems.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Why hcg? At this point it would only increase his gyno problems.

Yep.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Well just to update, I increased my Nolv yesterday to 50mg and kept prov at 25mg in the morning, and the soreness/puffy look has subsided. They are not sensitive to the touch, so I would assume Dbol was the culprit as the increased nolv worked. Less than a week to go with the dbols so I'm not going to stop them now, I'm already up 18lbs in Week 4, even with the moderately high anti-e dosings. Thanks to all that have helped so far

 

[Nighthawkk]

Ok, this is ridiculous...I have been finished with the dbol for 3 days already, and even at a maintenance dose of 20mg nolv/25mg proviron the nipples have gotten MORE SORE! I am also dropping deca now in Week 6 because I started Tren @75mg daily. I think it may be time to give Dostinex a try, what do you guys think?

 

[lartinos]

deca is a bad idea with something like NPP around bro. Just think about how much longer that shit is gonna be in your system.