Using hcg for the 1st time.

[wanas]

I wasn't jammin' you, bro. I just have been seeing a lot of bad information and/or advice. There are several schools of thought on HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . I'll give you mine. Take it from beginning to end. 500iu' the day before you shoot your Test. That's Dr. Crislers protocol for HRT. Now that's with testosterone enanthate or C.
If you are on testosterone propionate, go E3D no more than 500 iu's at a time.

Your 5000 vial, break it open and inject 3ml bact. H20. Aim water stream at side of ampule , not directly into powder. It disolves instantly. Draw liquig out of amp and shoot into a sterile vile. That's enough for 5 weeks @ 1000/ week. Keep it in fridge. Draw into insulin pin at 50 mark and inject IM. Got it? It really keeps your balls and sex drive full and in working order.

Thanks Centurian ,ure info is appreciated. It seems like using HCG is a bit of a mine field , everybody has different views on how it should be used. Gues its just research ,research and above all see how my body reacts to a certain dosage.

Thanks again bros

 

[littleguy]

I wasn't jammin' you, bro. I just have been seeing a lot of bad information and/or advice. There are several schools of thought on HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . I'll give you mine. Take it from beginning to end. 500iu' the day before you shoot your Test. That's Dr. Crislers protocol for HRT. Now that's with testosterone enanthate or C.
If you are on testosterone propionate, go E3D no more than 500 iu's at a time.

Your 5000 vial, break it open and inject 3ml bact. H20. Aim water stream at side of ampule , not directly into powder. It disolves instantly. Draw liquig out of amp and shoot into a sterile vile. That's enough for 5 weeks @ 1000/ week. Keep it in fridge. Draw into insulin pin at 50 mark and inject IM. Got it? It really keeps your balls and sex drive full and in working order.

half cent, your math brings it to 1666.6667 iu's per cc so half a cc ...50 mark on slin pin would be 833 per injection.

I just add 1 cc of bac water and thn I have 5000 iu's per cc put it to 5 mark on the slin pin for 250iu's or 10 mark for 500iu's.
keep the math simple and a smaller amount of liquid to inject.
The Organon usually comes with an ampule of powder and an ampule of solvent.
1 cc of solvent that is what they call it anyway. ( bac water I believe)
Also can be injected IM or Sub Q doesn't matter.
Hope this helps clear things up!
Cheers

 

[xrsist]

If your cycle wasn't too heavy or too long, you can get away with using only one of those 5000iu vials. Use BAC water to dilute the powder, mix one of those vials with 10mls water...so it comes out to 500iu per 1ml.

If you're running short esters (like testosterone propionate or tr-en ace, etc.), shoot 1 ml H C G per day for the last 10 days of the cycle. If you're running longer esters such as testosterone enanthate, then the day after your last shot, start the H C G...same dosing, 1ml per day for 10 days. Either way, make sure you still run your A I alongside the H C G and for 3-5 days after, since H C G spikes up your estrogen levels.

Then a day or two after your last H C G shot, start up with clo-mid, 50mg ED for 4-6 weeks.

agreed, except i wait 4-5 days after last h c g shot to start clomid (when using long esters)

 

[halfcenturian]

half cent, your math brings it to 1666.6667 iu's per cc so half a cc ...50 mark on insulin pin would be 833 per injection.

I just add 1 cc of bac water and thn I have 5000 iu's per cc put it to 5 mark on the insulin pin for 250iu's or 10 mark for 500iu's.
keep the math simple and a smaller amount of liquid to inject.
The Organon usually comes with an ampule of powder and an ampule of solvent.
1 cc of solvent that is what they call it anyway. ( bac water I believe)
Also can be injected IM or Sub Q doesn't matter.
Hope this helps clear things up!
Cheers

You are correct, my math is OFF:

1ml of 5000 amp= 20mark=1000, 40= 2000, 60=3000, 80=4000, 10=5000iu's
2ml of 5000 amp= 20mark=500, 40=1000, 60=1500, 80= 2000, 10=2500iu's
3ml of 5000 amp= 20mark=250, 40 = 500, 60=750, 80= 1000, 10=1500iu's

Now that's corrected. It's just a matter of how often you want to mix.

I use 3ml water to 1, 5000 amp HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - -
and it lasts me 5 weeks.
So given that, I draw to 40 mark on insulin pin to inject 500iu's HCG 2 X week, the day before I inject my testosterone enanthate. That's it! Clear?