Using hcg for the 1st time.

[wanas]

Hi all ,after much advice I have decided to use hcg as part of my pct for the end of my 2nd cycle.

I have just aquired a box of Pregnyl by Organon and have no idea how and when to use it.

It comes in 3 viles of powder each containing 5000iu's with 3 viles of 1ml solvent.

2 questions i have are:-

1. how much do i take and when do I take it?

2. Is the mixing the same as when you mix HGH?.

I also have the usual clomid so I need to know when to start using it if I'm using HCG.

Many thanks for any info guys.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I would use the clomid 10 days post cycle, once your test levels start dropping again, to regulate them. Not sure about pregnyl, but in Lebanon, they recommend one week post cycle.

 

[halfcenturian]

I'm suprised at your question.The pat answer would be "do your research". Did you not look into dosing, mixing, etc. HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - while contemplating weather or not to use it?
There is enough out there on HCG to tell you everything from soup to nuts.
Do we have your stats, have you looked at any threads or stickys on this?
Someone cut and pasted a post which is considered to be the cornerstone of HRT/ HCG usage not long ago, by Dr. John Crisler, D.O. Check it out.

 

[njmuscleguy]

If your cycle wasn't too heavy or too long, you can get away with using only one of those 5000iu vials. Use BAC water to dilute the powder, mix one of those vials with 10mls water...so it comes out to 500iu per 1ml.

If you're running short esters (like prop or tr-en ace, etc.), shoot 1 ml H C G per day for the last 10 days of the cycle. If you're running longer esters such as enth, then the day after your last shot, start the H C G...same dosing, 1ml per day for 10 days. Either way, make sure you still run your A I alongside the H C G and for 3-5 days after, since H C G spikes up your estrogen levels.

Then a day or two after your last H C G shot, start up with clo-mid, 50mg ED for 4-6 weeks.

 

[wanas]

I'm suprised at your question.The pat answer would be "do your research". Did you not look into dosing, mixing, etc. HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - while contemplating weather or not to use it?
There is enough out there on HCG to tell you everything from soup to nuts.
Do we have your stats, have you looked at any threads or stickys on this?
Someone cut and pasted a post which is considered to be the cornerstone of HRT/ HCG usage not long ago, by Dr. John Crisler, D.O. Check it out.

I appreciate that I have been lazy on this occasion centurian by not doing my research ,the situation came about that I was able to get my hands on the hcg at the last minute. I have used this forum from day 1 of my aas experience and found all of the members on here more than helpful.

Thanks for your info bro ,I am gonna get my lazy ass into some serious research now LOL

 

[wanas]

If your cycle wasn't too heavy or too long, you can get away with using only one of those 5000iu vials. Use BAC water to dilute the powder, mix one of those vials with 10mls water...so it comes out to 500iu per 1ml.

If you're running short esters (like testosterone propionate or tr-en ace, etc.), shoot 1 ml H C G per day for the last 10 days of the cycle. If you're running longer esters such as testosterone enanthate, then the day after your last shot, start the H C G...same dosing, 1ml per day for 10 days. Either way, make sure you still run your A I alongside the H C G and for 3-5 days after, since H C G spikes up your estrogen levels.

Then a day or two after your last H C G shot, start up with clo-mid, 50mg ED for 4-6 weeks.

Thanks muscleguy ,info is very helpful.

I'm running Test enan @500mg ew and tren enan @300mg ew for 10 weeks. I have evrything on hand now so that I can complete my cycle properly.

Thanks guys for the help

 

[halfcenturian]

I wasn't jammin' you, bro. I just have been seeing a lot of bad information and/or advice. There are several schools of thought on HCG. I'll give you mine. Take it from beginning to end. 500iu' the day before you shoot your Test. That's Dr. Crislers protocol for HRT. Now that's with Test E or C.
If you are on Prop, go E3D no more than 500 iu's at a time.

Your 5000 vial, break it open and inject 3ml bact. H20. Aim water stream at side of ampule , not directly into powder. It disolves instantly. Draw liquig out of amp and shoot into a sterile vile. That's enough for 5 weeks @ 1000/ week. Keep it in fridge. Draw into slin pin at 50 mark and inject IM. Got it? It really keeps your balls and sex drive full and in working order.

 

[littleguy]

HMMNNNNN, my style is 250iu's 2 times per week throughout the cycle, use slin pins as suggested, then if I still feel like I need it I run 500iu PD for 10 days at end of cycle with clomid at 50 mg PD for 30 days.
Works very well for me and many others.
Cheers

 

[halfcenturian]

HMMNNNNN, my style is 250iu's 2 times per week throughout the cycle, use insulin pins as suggested, then if I still feel like I need it I run 500iu PD for 10 days at end of cycle with clomid at 50 mg PD for 30 days.
Works very well for me and many others.
Cheers

Sure, that will work. I forgot about PCT since I'm on full time.
Plus my balls are way older than yours, so I run 500 2 X week.

No Clomid for me thank you, I prefer Adex or Aromasin, and Dermacrine.
But ya, run that HCG another 10 if you want. But I don't think you will have an issue with raisin nuts at the end of your cycle because you have maintained them from the depths of atrophy all cycle long. Run What ever PCT you use until you FEEL good. Fuck the calender. Longer is better than shorter. Like in most things.

 

[ALIN]

Hi all ,after much advice I have decided to use HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - as part of my PCT - post cycle therapy - for the end of my 2nd cycle.

I have just aquired a box of Pregnyl by Organon and have no idea how and when to use it.

It comes in 3 viles of powder each containing 5000iu's with 3 viles of 1ml solvent.

2 questions i have are:-

1. how much do i take and when do I take it?

2. Is the mixing the same as when you mix human growth hormone - somatropin - ?.

I also have the usual clomid so I need to know when to start using it if I'm using HCG.

Many thanks for any info guys.

Use it during your cycle,,,500iu every 5 days.