Using acetone to extract tren from pellets?

[Big Johnson]

Anyone make their own kits by dissolving their pellets in acetone and then mixing into a non polar like peanut or olive oil? Why not use saline and make a water-based injectable?

 

[Big Johnson]

Better yet, add some ethanol and make a sublingual. Huck? Macro?

 

[Big Johnson]

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[Sigmund Roid]

Acetone dissolves any steroids quite readily, but I would remove it after separation, not inject it.

 

[Big Johnson]

So, if I remember my chemistry right:

1. Place pellets in sterile vile

2. Cover pellets with dry acetone

3. Cover vile and allow pellets to dissolve until only precipitate remains

4. Decant acetone-tren solution into 2nd sterile vile

5. Discard precipitate (gunk) in 1st sterile vile

6. To 2nd vile with acetone+tren add sterile, non-polar liquid of choice (oil).

7. Cover 2nd vile and agitate solution.

8. Let 2nd vile (acetone+tren+oil) stand covered for an hour.

9. Apply vacuum to solution or heat in oven to remove acetone.

10 Cap vile.

How's this look?

 

[Big Johnson]

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[Johnny Cut]

the www.gotfina.com site has directions on how to make Finasol, an some ethanol based soultion that u can spray, check it out, pretty interesting, but then again, i ike to stab myself with needles

 

[Big Johnson]

gotfin.com isn't working

 

[Big Johnson]

hump

 

[ROLGOR]

Use BA and BB, works well.

 

[Sigmund Roid]

So, if I remember my chemistry right:

1. Place pellets in sterile vile

2. Cover pellets with dry acetone

3. Cover vile and allow pellets to dissolve until only precipitate remains

4. Decant acetone-tren solution into 2nd sterile vile

5. Discard precipitate (gunk) in 1st sterile vile

6. To 2nd vile with acetone+tren add sterile, non-polar liquid of choice (oil).

7. Cover 2nd vile and agitate solution.

8. Let 2nd vile (acetone+tren+oil) stand covered for an hour.

9. Apply vacuum to solution or heat in oven to remove acetone.

10 Cap vile.

How's this look?

It sounds OK, but I am missing BA+BB at step 6. Also, step 9 would be better: apply vacuum AND heat mildly, preferably while rotating/agitating the liquid in a vial.

 

[Jimsbbc]

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[Woody]

Evaporate off the acetone

After decantation, pour the acetone/tren mixture into a shallow dish. Evaporate the acetone overnight until dry. It evaporates easily. Whats left is a yellow flake that is about 98% pure tren. You can then dissolve the flake into the oil/BA.

Also, instead of decantation, it would be better to filter the precipitate.

 

[Big Johnson]

Could ethanol be used instead of BA?

 

[Jimsbbc]

Use BA and BB, works well.

Most Fina kits only contain benzyl alcohol with a small amount of benzyl benzoate as the "magic solvent"

Any experience on how to use it and where to get it is appreciated.

 

[Big Johnson]

I don't see why BA is needed. Tren acetate should dissolve nicely in sterile oil.

 

[Spidey]

I don't see why BA is needed. Tren acetate should dissolve nicely in sterile oil.

NOT!! Tren ac will be insoluble in just oil. It's not a big lipophilic molecule. You need to dissolve it in the BA/BB first and then dilute with oil. I make mine 20% BB and 1% BA and dilute it to 100 mg/mL with sesame oil.

-Spidey

 

[Big Johnson]

Okay, what about sterile water?

 

[Big Johnson]

NOT!! Tren ac will be insoluble in just oil. It's not a big lipophilic molecule.

-Spidey

Now, I haven't tried it, but the research I've done indicates it IS a lipophilic molecule. Its an esterfied steroid.

So is the issue here concentration of tren in mg/ml? I doubt I'll find the solubility of TA in sesame oil at STP, but I'll start looking.

 

[Spidey]

Now, I haven't tried it, but the research I've done indicates it IS a lipophilic molecule. Its an esterfied steroid.

So is the issue here concentration of tren in mg/ml? I doubt I'll find the solubility of TA in sesame oil at STP, but I'll start looking.

Yes, it is an esterified steroid. However, it is only an acetate (a very small ester chain). It isn't enough to impart significant solubility in non-polar, lipophilic solvents. To even get it to dissolve in the benzyl benzoate and BA, I had to heat the hell out of it with a heat gun for a few minutes. This stuff will actually crystalize out of ethyl acetate solution with the addition of hexane. Trust me. It won't dissolve in significant quantity in just oil.

And to answer your other question, no, it won't dissolve in water. You need some reasonably polar organic solvent like acetone. Benzyl benzoate is an ester itself and is reasonably polar.

BTW, I didn't just pull that 20% BB, 1% BA thing out of my ass. I went to the local pharmacy and told the pharmacist that my friend was going on HRT soon and was concerned about the BA content in the test cyp. I asked to see a vial to see what the label listed as a percentage BA. It was 200 mg/mL test cyp in cottenseed oil which was 20% benzyl benzoate (BB) and 1% benzyl alcohol (BA). I patterned my own formulation after that.

-Spidey

 

[Big Johnson]

I found the solubilty of TA in oil at STP. It was listed as 50-75mg/ml.

Thanks for the posts, Spidey. From now on, I'm refering to you as 8 (8 legs).

Peace

 

[Sigmund Roid]

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