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Using a test base with a sarm cycle

themuscle98

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So I’m 29yo 5’10 about 180 pounds..in my off season looking to bulk up again. In the past I’ve ran 2 gear cycles, a couple of ph cycles and a few sarms cycles. I’ve also dabbled into peptides. I’ve done loads of research so I consider myself knowledgeable on the matter.
So I’m planning on running a 12 week sarm cycle of LGD4033, Rad140, yk-11, and maybe ostarine not sure about the ostarine yet if there’s even a point with the other compounds. Anyway Im running 4andro as my test base as that was the only one I can get my hands on at this time. I just had a couple of questions.
-Do I run the test base from the beginning? Or take it when I start to feel suppressed. Also,
-is there a certain time I should throw in the AI? Or again when I feel the estro side effects and need it
Thanks guys!


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you don't need a test base on a sarms cycle or any cycle for that matter. but if you do decide to add test it depends on the dosage. anything more than a real trt dose you will start needing an AI and should be used from day 1. by the time you notice estrogen problems its already out of control
 
stevesmi said:
you don't need a test base on a sarms cycle or any cycle for that matter. but if you do decide to add test it depends on the dosage. anything more than a real trt dose you will start needing an AI and should be used from day 1. by the time you notice estrogen problems its already out of control
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Ok right , but not too high of a dose because you would need some estrogen for muscle growth correct? Which is the initial point of the test base besides preventing shutdown



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themuscle98 said:
So I’m 29yo 5’10 about 180 pounds..in my off season looking to bulk up again. In the past I’ve ran 2 gear cycles, a couple of ph cycles and a few sarms cycles. I’ve also dabbled into peptides. I’ve done loads of research so I consider myself knowledgeable on the matter.
So I’m planning on running a 12 week sarm cycle of LGD4033, Rad140, yk-11, and maybe ostarine not sure about the ostarine yet if there’s even a point with the other compounds. Anyway Im running 4andro as my test base as that was the only one I can get my hands on at this time. I just had a couple of questions.
-Do I run the test base from the beginning? Or take it when I start to feel suppressed. Also,
-is there a certain time I should throw in the AI? Or again when I feel the estro side effects and need it
Thanks guys!
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Good to see you post for advice but 4ando is not a good test base

For 12 weeks sarms no need testosterone at all IMO

12 week cycle sarms recomp my take
testolone rad140 25mgs/day
Anabolicum LGD4033 10mgs/day
Ostarine mk2866 50mgs/day
Cardarine gw501516 20mgs/day
andarine s4 50mgs/day

split into 3 doses during the day dont take all at once
and there is no estrogen sides but organ liver you need good detox, use n2guard daily
 
themuscle98 said:
So I’m 29yo 5’10 about 180 pounds..in my off season looking to bulk up again. In the past I’ve ran 2 gear cycles, a couple of ph cycles and a few sarms cycles. I’ve also dabbled into peptides. I’ve done loads of research so I consider myself knowledgeable on the matter.
So I’m planning on running a 12 week sarm cycle of LGD4033, Rad140, yk-11, and maybe ostarine not sure about the ostarine yet if there’s even a point with the other compounds. Anyway Im running 4andro as my test base as that was the only one I can get my hands on at this time. I just had a couple of questions.
-Do I run the test base from the beginning? Or take it when I start to feel suppressed. Also,
-is there a certain time I should throw in the AI? Or again when I feel the estro side effects and need it
Thanks guys!


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BS: you could have gotten everything you needed - see the sponsor ads?
 
the_alcatraz said:
Good to see you post for advice but 4ando is not a good test base

For 12 weeks sarms no need testosterone at all IMO

12 week cycle sarms recomp my take
testolone rad140 25mgs/day
Anabolicum LGD4033 10mgs/day
Ostarine mk2866 50mgs/day
Cardarine gw501516 20mgs/day
andarine s4 50mgs/day

split into 3 doses during the day dont take all at once
and there is no estrogen sides but organ liver you need good detox, use n2guard daily
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Sounds like a beast recomp cycle actually. Thanks!


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Consider following stack for 12 weeks: MK2866-50mgs; S4-40mgs(50mgs may cause you short time bad vision); RAD140-25mgs; GW-20mgs; LGD-10mgs. All daily intake. Plus add some N2GUARD organ support
 
themuscle98 said:
Ok right , but not too high of a dose because you would need some estrogen for muscle growth correct? Which is the initial point of the test base besides preventing shutdown



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bro yo still gonna have estrogen on sarms, sarms not gonna block estrogen
 
themuscle98 said:
I was referring to the moderate shutdown of natty test, since sarms bind to the androgen receptors instead the deceased test won’t decrease estrogen?


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bro that only happen with fake ass sarms reallly pro hormone
 
in general, sarms suppression is going to be quite minimal... you can see it more so with something stronger like lgd4033 and yk11 but still nothing even close to a steroid and not to an extent where i would see any necessity for a "test base" Andro products do not, in my view, constitute a test base in any way... Regardless, you can definitely use it with them if you want... s23 would require a full pct... it still does not mean you would require using test with it... you CAN use test with any sarm and see very strong results but that is entirely up to you on what you want to do ...
 
dylangemelli said:
in general, sarms suppression is going to be quite minimal... you can see it more so with something stronger like lgd4033 and yk11 but still nothing even close to a steroid and not to an extent where i would see any necessity for a "test base" Andro products do not, in my view, constitute a test base in any way... Regardless, you can definitely use it with them if you want... s23 would require a full pct... it still does not mean you would require using test with it... you CAN use test with any sarm and see very strong results but that is entirely up to you on what you want to do ...
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Thanks brother great input


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Tazz said:
keep us updated!
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So my cycle was LGD4033, Rad 140 and you-11 daily for 6 weeks, the last 4 weeks I threw in 4-andro with an anti-aromatase and I was more than pleased. It was like supercharging the remainder of my cycle, sex drive shot back up, muscles looked way harder, vascularity popped a little more. Great results and great idea.


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