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Upright Rows?

Both depending on hand placement...Not a very good exercise IMO...A very awkward movement that 's bad for the wrists. There's other exercises that will accomplish the same thing.
 
Wider the grip the more shoulders, closer the more traps. But you shouldn't be doing them anyway, they are very bad for your rotator cuffs. An Orthopedic surgeon that I was seeing for shoulder problems told me this. Actually it's pretty well known these days. Suprised anyone still does them.
 
my two trap movements are:

DB shrugs, never rotating the shoulders just squeezing up and down.

reverse grip(bar behind the quads) on a smith machine keeping elbows straight and leaning just a bit forward and rep the shit out of them
 
genarr3 said:
Wider the grip the more shoulders, closer the more traps. But you shouldn't be doing them anyway, they are very bad for your rotator cuffs. An Orthopedic surgeon that I was seeing for shoulder problems told me this. Actually it's pretty well known these days. Suprised anyone still does them.


agree 100%
 
genarr3 said:
Wider the grip the more shoulders, closer the more traps. But you shouldn't be doing them anyway, they are very bad for your rotator cuffs. An Orthopedic surgeon that I was seeing for shoulder problems told me this. Actually it's pretty well known these days. Suprised anyone still does them.

I can personally verify the truth of Genarr's post. Any kind of weight at all on this exercise and my right shoulder hurts like hell. If you want you can do them on a seated cable row machine and pull the resistance toward you instead of upward as is normally done. Still hits the traps but much easier on shoulders.
 
Upright Rows contributed to my biceps tendon impingement and rotator cuff problems which I had to have scoped so listen to these guys and avoid them. They actually are effective at hitting my traps but at too much of a price. Just do heavy DB shrugs and deadlits and you'll be fine.
 
New Jack said:
Do upright rows work more of the shoulders or the traps?


do them every back day.... depends on how you do them.. you can isolate different muscles... back.. traps.. front delts..:p ;)
 
Elapid said:
Upright Rows contributed to my biceps tendon impingement and rotator cuff problems which I had to have scoped so listen to these guys and avoid them. They actually are effective at hitting my traps but at too much of a price. Just do heavy DB shrugs and deadlits and you'll be fine.


do them with more control and concentration..slow......:p ;)
 
genarr3 said:
Wider the grip the more shoulders, closer the more traps. But you shouldn't be doing them anyway, they are very bad for your rotator cuffs. An Orthopedic surgeon that I was seeing for shoulder problems told me this. Actually it's pretty well known these days. Suprised anyone still does them.

Agreed. I thought it was common knowledge also. I even avoid behind the neck pull downs b/c it can also casue rotator cuff probs
 
supertech69 said:
I usually do rows but, I do low weight. What is a good alternative to them? I switch between free & cable
If you're trying to work your traps do shrugs, deadlifts will probably have the greatest effect on them though.

If you're trying to work shoulders do military presses, dumbell presses, and dumbell side lateral raises.
 
Delinquent said:

Agreed. I thought it was common knowledge also. I even avoid behind the neck pull downs b/c it can also casue rotator cuff probs
Yes. I don't do any behind the neck movements either, pull-downs or shoulder presses.
Taking those three movements out of my workout has made my shoulders almost pain free.
 
Dutch windmill said:
I do them..and i like 'm...

Maybe worth reconsidering them in my workouts:)

D.W.
You should. If you really take a close look at the movement without a bar, just raising your elbows the way it's supposed to be done, you'll see it's a very unnatural movement.
 
Biomechanics: What is your goal?? If you want to work Delts, do side raises, front raises, presses, etc. If you want to work traps, do shrugs. If you want to shredd your rotator cuff and mess up your wrists do upright rows.
 
genarr3 said:

If you're trying to work your traps do shrugs, deadlifts will probably have the greatest effect on them though.

If you're trying to work shoulders do military presses, dumbell presses, and dumbell side lateral raises.

agreed. DL's are the BEST for traps.
 
genarr3 said:

If you're trying to work your traps do shrugs, deadlifts will probably have the greatest effect on them though.

If you're trying to work shoulders do military presses, dumbell presses, and dumbell side lateral raises.


I already do all of those, just wanted to know if there was anything that I should do to replace them? I have no problem w/shoulder or trap developement, they are fine, I just try to stay away from dangerous exercises
 
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