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Upcoming Cycle-- No test

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moss84

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What up,

Stats/Experience:
6' 3"
230lbs
Age 35 (training for 12 years)
Used: test, equ, anavar, NPP,
Goals: Lean muscle, minimal water, minimal acne--basically a beach muscle guy(not too proud to admit)

I have a problem with body acne (back,chest, arms) with every single cycle I have done. I have included test in every cycle, so I want to try a No test cycle & see if that is the culprit of my sides. Since my goals are for lean gains, I think I should be alright. But, I don't want any sexual sides.

Here is what I was thinking of doing:

wk 1-12 500mg equ.
wk 1-12 400mg primo
wk 1-8 350mg NPP
wk 1-12 50mg Proviron/daily

PCT/ Clomid & Nolvadex.

How does this look--will I have any problems that you can for see?
Thanks
 
moss84 said:
What up,

Stats/Experience:
6' 3"
230lbs
Age 35 (training for 12 years)
Used: test, equ, anavar, NPP,
Goals: Lean muscle, minimal water, minimal acne--basically a beach muscle guy(not too proud to admit)

I have a problem with body acne (back,chest, arms) with every single cycle I have done. I have included test in every cycle, so I want to try a No test cycle & see if that is the culprit of my sides. Since my goals are for lean gains, I think I should be alright. But, I don't want any sexual sides.

Here is what I was thinking of doing:

wk 1-12 500mg equ.
wk 1-12 400mg primo
wk 1-8 350mg NPP
wk 1-12 50mg Proviron/daily

PCT/ Clomid & Nolvadex.

How does this look--will I have any problems that you can for see?
Thanks
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why the NPP for only 8? why not 4 or the whole cycle?
 
DieselGunz said:
why the NPP for only 8? why not 4 or the whole cycle?
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I could do that-- I love NPP, but sweat like bastard on it. From my understanding it kicks in quick, so it's alright to use for only 8 weeks.
 
i wouldnt take proviron for 14weeks strait... NNP should be run longer in my opinion, and if you just want beach muscles, then you really dont need to use NNP, eq and primo would give you that and more/ plus proviron should only be used with a test to minimize water and sides, you have nothing thats going to give you much water or sides, maybe the NNP but its minamal... prob will need a pct, not a GREAT one but youll still need one though...
 
Gman1 said:
i wouldnt take proviron for 14weeks strait... NNP should be run longer in my opinion, and if you just want beach muscles, then you really dont need to use NNP, eq and primo would give you that and more/ plus proviron should only be used with a test to minimize water and sides, you have nothing thats going to give you much water or sides, maybe the NNP but its minamal... prob will need a pct, not a GREAT one but youll still need one though...
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The proviron is to make sure I don't have any sexual sides. I'm taking all the pre-cautions to ensure I don't get the "deca dick"...
 
Gman1 said:
PROACTIVE, or accutane
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I've used all the preventative meds, actually B-5 had worked the best. I'm more curious if people think that if I eliminate test, then maybe the acne will go away.
 
DieselGunz said:
It might just be a side that you have from any aas, but i think taking test out is a smart move
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I agree, it may be a case by case thing. I figure, might as well try a no test, but well juiced cycle & see how it goes. Thanks for your input.
 
DieselGunz said:
It might just be a side that you have from any aas, but i think taking test out is a smart move
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I dont know your exact reasoning behind taking the test out, but I never recommend any cycle without test. Test plays such a major role in your body that shutting down its natural production and not replacing it is asking for trouble.
 
Themachine01 said:
I dont know your exact reasoning behind taking the test out, but I never recommend any cycle without test. Test plays such a major role in your body that shutting down its natural production and not replacing it is asking for trouble.
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Read my original post.
 
Themachine01 said:
I dont know your exact reasoning behind taking the test out, but I never recommend any cycle without test. Test plays such a major role in your body that shutting down its natural production and not replacing it is asking for trouble.[/QUOT]
All due respect, just wanted to make sure you read my original post--thanks
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run a really low dose or just cut it out. but i would not run npp eq and primo without test. just run the primo and eq bro. at least take some hcg 250iu's a week with the cycle to help keep natty test levels. i know guys who are fucking huge who won't use test because of acne as well, thats who taught me to use hcg, so when i did deca alone thats what i did. now i am on test and deca cause like machine says its essential. nothing wrong with a pimple on the back if you can fuck her for 2 hours on test. but hey like i said i understand where you are coming from and cut out the npp and i aprove
 
bruce410 said:
run a really low dose or just cut it out. but i would not run npp eq and primo without test. just run the primo and eq bro. at least take some hcg 250iu's a week with the cycle to help keep natty test levels. i know guys who are fucking huge who won't use test because of acne as well, thats who taught me to use hcg, so when i did deca alone thats what i did. now i am on test and deca cause like machine says its essential. nothing wrong with a pimple on the back if you can fuck her for 2 hours on test. but hey like i said i understand where you are coming from and cut out the npp and i aprove
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I hear ya--do you think the proviron is worth it to use? I actually have a stock of it..
 
yea sure i know it will keep you from bloating and your libido. just don't use it for 14 weeks straight as mentioned. i have not used proviron personally so i am not gonna act like i have. i know bros that love it, thats all i can say.
 
bruce410 said:
yea sure i know it will keep you from bloating and your libido. just don't use it for 14 weeks straight as mentioned. i have not used proviron personally so i am not gonna act like i have. i know bros that love it, thats all i can say.
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thanks for your input & HONESTY
 
do the cycle, the worst that happens is you have some test prop around if your noodle goes limp. just another thought. i think your fine with eq and primo tho. good luck
 
I got really bad acne from a test only cycle. This cycle I am just going to run enough test to keep things balanced.

Maybe just try running it at a low dosage.
 
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