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SgtSlaughter
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"The most important aspect of recovery is getting testicular mass back to normal as quickly as possible. There is only one drug that will do this and do it quickly--HCG. HCG imitates LH (which is suppressed). HCG acts independently of the HPTA suppression and independent of the meds from the AAS cycle. In this situation, the only side effect we need to worry about is the return of estrogen to normal levels (estrogen rebound). Since estrogen is already at very low levels (the athlete used an aromatase inhibitor during his AAS cycle), Nolvadex is sufficient to block the onrush. By the time the athlete is using nolvadex-only, his testes are up to their normal size. And the pituitary begins to release its own LH." - DrJMW
Example: Your gonadjules become the realitive size of peanuts. Shoot the HCG to bring them back up to par / help your own T levels come back up). I've heard of people using HCG during to keep their balls normal size while being "on" also.
On the other hand HCG also seems to be a staple of PCT. When substituting your own Test levels and raising them very high, instead of hitting a Very low... low; HCG will help raise your test levels up much quicker than.... well anything else.
HCG can be administered via subcutaneous rather than intramuscular to give yourself a break from shooting deep.
Good luck Cy!
Example: Your gonadjules become the realitive size of peanuts. Shoot the HCG to bring them back up to par / help your own T levels come back up). I've heard of people using HCG during to keep their balls normal size while being "on" also.
On the other hand HCG also seems to be a staple of PCT. When substituting your own Test levels and raising them very high, instead of hitting a Very low... low; HCG will help raise your test levels up much quicker than.... well anything else.
HCG can be administered via subcutaneous rather than intramuscular to give yourself a break from shooting deep.
Good luck Cy!
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Mr.X
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cyrex said:Here are my results of bloodtests:
Penis Length (from top to tip): 6.25 inches
So anything here that I should be weary of?
WTF?! yeah, why are your posting your size on EF?
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Mr.X
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cyrex said:
I wouldn't start your cycle until you're down to 10-12% bodyfat. You have a long way to go with dialing-in your diet before you consider AS.
cyrex
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Mr.X said:
I greatly respect your advice and I understand that starting below 14% bf is ideal. I will give it serious consideration, but from the posts I see of many other people on this board, and I'm sure you are aware of it, it's tough knowing that strength-wise I'm currently at the top of my game and gaining even 15 lbs of lean muscle will help reduce my BF. I'd actually like to stay over 250 lbs and not dip below that mark to get to 10-12% bf.
My diet has been dialed in for well over a year and for only about a 8 months period before that it wasn't. Right now I'm doing squats 75 lbs more than I was before my knee injury, deadlifts 100 lbs more and benching 50 lbs more. My bf is about 2% higher than before my injury, but my LBM is almost 15 lbs more also.
At this point, I'm worried more about gaining strength than anything, and along with what I stated above about not wanting to drop below 250 lbs (mma reasons). I'm hoping that after this cycle I'll still be under 265 but as close it as possible.
SgtSlaughter
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hey bro... just keep in mind these are all reccomendations.
Certainly you'll see better results quicker with being <= 10% bf
I definetly understand why you want to dive in. More muscle = more calories burnt at rest and you're hopeing it'll lower bf and gain muscle obviously.
You're going to do what you want to do.
Do it safely and post results!
Disclaimer: AAS should be administered and perscribed by a medical professional. Use as directed
Certainly you'll see better results quicker with being <= 10% bf
I definetly understand why you want to dive in. More muscle = more calories burnt at rest and you're hopeing it'll lower bf and gain muscle obviously.
You're going to do what you want to do.
Do it safely and post results!
Disclaimer: AAS should be administered and perscribed by a medical professional. Use as directed
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Mr.X
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cyrex said:
since you have your diet dialed-in, post your diet here; let me take a look at it. Training /cardio /rest also.
nuevo laredo
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Mr.X said:
Come on Mr.X, it's one of the standard parameters on the Comprehensive Wellness Profile.
cyrex
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Mr.X said:
Compound exercises: 1 warm-up set at a relatively low weight (usually around 135) then 4 sets of 8 at a weight where I have trouble getting the last 2 reps of the last 2 sets done.
Everything else: unless otherwise noted I do 3 sets of about 6 to 8 reps to failure with forced reps when possible. Usually picking 2-3 exercises per muscle depending on day/availability of machines/dumbells/benches
Training (6 day cycle):
Day 1: Legs: 5 min run, Squat, Deadlift, Leg curls, Leg press, leg extensions
Day 2: Flat Dumbell Press, Dumbell Fly, Decline or Incline dumbell press, Tris: dips + (mix of pressdowns, pullovers, nosebreakers, rope pulldowns, close grip bench press with ezcurl bar) 35 min cardio (typically 4.0mph treadmill at 6 degree slope)
Day 3: Lat pulldowns, Bent over row (dumbell or barbell), seated row, inclined row, incline dumbel curls, preacher curls, barbell curls, cable curls.
Day 4: Military Press (behind and front neck), Front raises (cable or dumbell), Upright rows, shrugs, lateral raises (cable or dumbell), calf raises (3 sets of 50), abs (knee lifts, 5 sets holding L lever till failure, buterflys and a number of various exercises we do for wrestling and jui jitsu)
Day 5: 35 min cardio (typically recumbant bike or medium slope fast paced walk)
Day 6: Rest
From now till June: Jui Jitsu every Tuesday night which usually consists of light jogging, some sparring, and various floor movements.
I stretch for 10-20 minutes before and after each workout.
I try to get to sleep by 10:30 (don't sometimes when I have a late night due to work, but that has died down dramatically in the last 2 months and will be completely done in 2 weeks). I wake up at 6:45a.m. ED except weekends which is usually around 7:30-8:00
Been on this program for about 1.5 months now. I could go into the details of the one I was on before if you would like as well.
Diet coming next:
cyrex
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nuevo laredo said:
Diet:
Not sure how specific you want me to be? Would you like an example of what I eat over the course of the day? A list of things that I do eat? Just numbers?
6'4"
257.5 lbs
24 years old
I try to get about 2400-2500 calories per day
Weekdays
Protein: 300g
Carbs: 90g
Fat: 100g
Weekend
Protein Weekend: 300g
Carbs: 180g
Fat: 60g
Protein Sources: Chicken, turkey, 96% lean ground beef, eggs (1:3 ratio of whole to whites), sunflower seeds, orange roughy, tuna, sirloin steak, cheeses listed below
Fat Sources: Butter, olive oil, cheese (low fat mozerella, provolone, aged white cheddar, low fat cottage cheese), nuts, meats above, peanut butter
Carb sources: Whole wheat bread, Cereal, whole grain pastas, brown rice, barley, carrots, broccoli, romaine lettuce, tomatos, sweet potatos/yams, mushrooms, green peppers, green onions, Sugar Free Jello
MRP shakes to fill in when needed.
Obviously a few of these fall into different categories so place them where you like.
I love to cook, so I make a lot of my own food usually. I typically eat about 4-6 meals per day depending on how busy it is with work (how late I leave).
I drink at least 12 bottles of water a day (.5 liter bottles) along with drinks from fountains at the gym during workouts. So somewhere between 1.5-2 gallons per day.
I never drink soda, eat fast food, or junk food. I almost never have more than 600 calories in a meal and usually not more than 500.
I do munch on sunflower seeds throughout the day from time to time. I run through about 100 calories worth during the day if I'm eating them.
This is my base diet as far as maintenance and consists of almost everything I ever eat.
If I take my wife out to eat I will typically order the leanest steak they have with broccoli. I'm not a big fan of baked goods like dinner rolls or special breads, so they aren't even tempting to me.
In the past 3 months, to drop weight I've just been lowering my carb intake during the week a little extra and doing more cardio.
This has been working very well for me, but I'm always open to suggestions.
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