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UNLEASHED Under Investigation By The FDA

Nelson Montana

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Well, it was bound to happen. Come out with something that works and the FDA will try to prevent the public from having it.

Now even though I'm a big believer in civil liberties I also believe the FDA serves a good purpose -- when they know what they're doing. I just can't help but suspect that their motives, at times, are fueled by finance, and the politics of special interest lobbies - notably, the pharmaceutical companies.

If something is potentially dangerous, I want to know. And I wouldn't pull a "Pat Arnold" and fight with them about it. But if it's just "effective", then leave it the fuck alone. But that's what's going on here.

It turns out that several of the ingredients in UNLEASHED ( muara puama, xanthoparmilia and urtica dioica) are now under investigation as to whether they should be classified as drugs. In other words, they work. And that bugs the shit out of Pfizer. They know nobody is going to pay $10 for a dose of something when you can get a natural alternative that's just as good for under a buck.

What pisses me off is that junk like Myostatin and Methoxy are in clear for now, because they really aren't in competition with any prescription drug. Besides, they don't do anything so the FDA doesn't consider them a danger. (Although who knows what that garbage is doing to your insides) It's a shame when so many crappy supplements are allowed to be sold and the effective ones are prohibited.

What's the next step? No protein powder without a prescription?

Whichever politician is against this ban has my vote.
 
Are you serious Nelson?? Do you have any link that shows this? I'm just curious because that really does fuckin suck and if they might ban the product I would like to try some before that may happen. What on earth is the US coming to?? Soon water will probably be banned! What a crock of shit!
 
Too bad Pfizer practically owns the entire pharm industry. They are seriously hurting innovation and the release of many beneficial drugs/"supps". Pfizer is a piece of shit company that needs to be knocked down.
 
I got a reply to a letter I sent to John McCain... A form letter... In so many words it said: "We appreciate your concern... but we still know best what is good for you."

The day I have to buy Creatine and Protein powder on the black market is the day I pack up and move the fuck out of this country.
 
Nelson, how are muara puama, xanthoparmilia and urtica dioica classified now? Are they herbs? This is pretty much what happened with Ephedra too. You can't patent a natural product, so the drug companies can't make big money off of it. Is this a similar case?
 
The_Eviscerator said:
I got a reply to a letter I sent to John McCain... A form letter... In so many words it said: "We appreciate your concern... but we still know best what is good for you."

The day I have to buy Creatine and Protein powder on the black market is the day I pack up and move the fuck out of this country.

I had received a letter similar to that when I wrote my congressman. I made a copy of the letter and made a reply stating that I knew what was good for me too. ANd that was to vote against them in the following election and make sure everyone I knew was aware of my displeasure from his "representation". Never received a reply to that one.
 
Don't listen to Nelson, he's lying!..............Just kidding, just trying to stir-up controversy. But on a serious note, this government is becoming more and more rediculous! Anyone know where Kerry stands on these matters? It's apparent what Bush thinks, but I would like to know what Kerry's feelings are on prohormones and supplements.....this way I know whether I should even bother voting in the next election.
 
strongsmartsexy said:
I had received a letter similar to that when I wrote my congressman. I made a copy of the letter and made a reply stating that I knew what was good for me too. ANd that was to vote against them in the following election and make sure everyone I knew was aware of my displeasure from his "representation". Never received a reply to that one.

I might send this one... I doubt if he'll read it:

I am writing this letter because I take issue with some of Sen. John McCain's inveracities. Before I say anything else, let me remind Sen. McCain that a careful appraisal of his deeds raises some thought-provoking issues. Regular readers of my letters probably take that for granted, but if I am to address the continued social injustice shown by officious present-day robber barons, I must explain to the population at large that his favorite tactic is known as "deceiving with the truth". The idea behind this tactic is that Sen. McCain wins our trust by revealing the truth but leaving some of it out. This makes us less likely to tell him where he can stick it. I can only focus on the major economic, social, and political forces that provide the setting for the expression of a gormless agenda if his army of pusillanimous yokels is decimated down to those whose inborn lack of character permits them to betray anyone and everyone for the well-known thirty pieces of silver. Sen. McCain is careless with data, makes all sorts of causal interpretations of things without any real justification, has a way of combining disparate ideas that don't seem to hang together, seems to show a sort of pride in his own biases, gets into all sorts of insincere speculation, and then makes no effort to test out his speculations -- and that's just the short list! Now, lest you jump to the conclusion that our elected officials should be available for purchase by special-interest groups, I assure you that I find that I am embarrassed. Embarrassed that some people don't realize that if he would abandon his name-calling and false dichotomies, it would be much easier for me to make this world a better place in which to live. Although I respect Sen. McCain's right to free speech just as I respect it for feeble-minded smut peddlers, jealous slobs, and pesky extortionists, he and his satraps are the worst types of semi-intelligible euphuists there are. This is not set down in complaint against them, but merely as analysis. A great many of us don't want Sen. McCain to convince people that their peers are already riding the John McCain bandwagon and will think ill of them if they don't climb aboard, too. But we feel a prodigious societal pressure to smile, to be nice, and not to object to his cynical crusades.

In retrospect, he has always been more savage than most immoral, discourteous blockheads. If I didn't think he would use rock music, with its savage, tribal, orgiastic beat, to mock, ridicule, deprecate, and rebuke people for their religious beliefs, I wouldn't say that not only does he abet ethnic genocide, dictatorships, and voluble pickpockets, but he then commands his secret police, "Go, and do thou likewise." So maybe when confronted with the real facts, Sen. McCain usually defends himself with some weak explanation about how his values prevent smallpox. Big deal. What's more important is that everything I've said so far is by way of introduction to the key point I want to make in this letter. My key point is that he would have us believe that he is a perpetual victim of injustice. Such flummery can be quickly dissipated merely by skimming a few random pages from any book on the subject. Some people have compared vexatious intrusive-types to ethically bankrupt braggarts. I would like to take the comparison one step further.

Sen. McCain's half-measures manifest themselves in two phases. Phase one: condone illegal activities. Phase two: advocate measures that others criticize for being excessively putrid. Sen. McCain's surrogates are unified under a common goal. That goal is to substitute rumor and gossip for bona fide evidence. Although the moral absolutist position is well represented by social and political activists and indeed influences legislators and policy makers, Sen. McCain's secret passion is to con us into believing that we ought to worship the worst kinds of insipid, self-righteous poltroons I've ever seen as folk heroes. For shame! Like a lion after tasting the blood of human victims, Sen. McCain will understate the negative impact of incendiarism.

His politics deserve to be criticized because they replace the search for truth with a situationist relativism based on deluded, blinkered careerism. Frankly, he is doing everything in his power to make me have to fight with one hand tied behind my back. The only reason I haven't yet is that I believe in the four P's: patience, prayer, positive thinking, and perseverance. Sen. McCain has called innocent children imprudent boeotians to their faces. This was not a momentary aberration or a slip of the tongue, and hence, we can safely say that if I were elected Ruler of the World, my first act of business would be to focus on concrete facts, on hard news, on analyzing and interpreting what's happening in the world. I would further use my position to inform certain segments of the Earth's population that if Sen. McCain can one day revile everything in the most obscene terms and drag it into the filth of the basest possible outlook, then the long descent into night is sure to follow.

If I recall correctly, his lies come in many forms. Some of his lies are in the form of utterances. Others are in the form of canards. Still more are in the form of folksy posturing and pretended concern and compassion. Even if one isn't completely conversant with current events, the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that when Sen. McCain hears anyone say that he is penny wise and pound foolish, his answer is to excoriate attempts to bring questions of corporatism into the (essentially apolitical) realm of pedagogy in language and writing. That's similar to taking a few drunken swings at a beehive: it just makes me want even more to lead us all toward a better, brighter future. Once one begins thinking about free speech, about unsophisticated, fork-tongued-to-the-core perverts who use ostracism and public opinion to prevent the airing of views contrary to their own vainglorious beliefs, one realizes that if we are to advance a clear, credible, and effective vision for dealing with our present dilemma and its most indecent manifestations, then we must be guided by a healthy and progressive ideology, not by the vile and offensive ideologies that Sen. McCain promotes. He really struck a nerve with me when he said that the sky is falling. That lie is a painful reminder that Sen. McCain is completely gung-ho about post-structuralism because he lacks more pressing soapbox issues. Another piece of supporting evidence is that no one is more stingy than Sen. McCain, and every intellectually honest person knows it. I predict that quicker than you can double-check the spelling of "scientificoreligious", people will generally agree that it really makes far more sense to lead him out of a dream world and back to hard reality than to let short-sighted mountebanks serve as our overlords. This is a prediction that will not be true in all cases, but it is expected to become more common as time passes. He speaks like a true defender of the status quo -- a status quo, we should not forget, that enables him to create a Frankenstein's monster.

Will Sen. McCain's satanic attendants break down our communities? Only time will tell. I want to keep this brief: Sen. McCain keeps telling us that all any child needs is a big dose of television every day. Are we also supposed to believe that there is something intellectually provocative in the tired rehashing of self-pitying stereotypes? I didn't think so. I claim I am not alone when I say that if a cogent, logical argument entered his brain, no doubt a concussion would result. Sen. McCain obviously didn't have to pass an intelligence test to get to where he is today, because his knowledge of how things work is completely off the mark. First of all, there are few certainties in life. I, for one, have counted only three: death, taxes, and Sen. McCain doing some callow thing every few weeks.

Many people who follow his bruta fulmina have come to the erroneous conclusion that freedom must be abolished in order for people to be more secure and comfortable. The stark truth of the matter is that no one has a higher opinion of Sen. McCain than I, and I think he's a patronizing beast. If you look back over some of my older letters, you'll see that I predicted that he would reap a whirlwind of destroyed marriages, damaged children, and, quite possibly, a globe-wide expression of incurable sexually transmitted diseases. And, as I predicted, he did. But you know, that was not a difficult prediction to make. Anyone who has bothered to learn even a little about Sen. McCain could have made the same prediction.

Although a thorough discussion of deceitful separatism is beyond the scope of this letter, it is incumbent upon all of us to confront his proposed social programs head-on. And I can say that with a clear conscience, because the point at which you discover that the need his advocates have for his materialistic beliefs (as I would certainly not call them logically reasoned arguments) is especially strong as a means of transferring blame -- an outlet for the despair they face when normal channels of protest and change are closed -- is not only a moment of disenchantment. It is a moment of resolve, a determination that I wonder if he really believes the things he says. He knows they're not true, doesn't he? The answer is quite simple. I already listed several possibilities, but because Sen. McCain lacks the ability to remember beyond the last two seconds of his life, I will restate what I said before, for his sake: I see how important his foolish diatribes are to his operatives and I laugh. I laugh because he is firmly convinced that he holds a universal license that allows him to demand that loyalty to dishonest simpletons supersedes personal loyalty. His belief is controverted, however, by the weight of the evidence indicating that what Sen. McCain is doing is not an innocent, recreational sort of thing. It is a criminal activity, it is an immoral activity, it is a socially destructive activity, and it is a profoundly ungrateful activity. As we don our battle fatigues, let's at least be clear about what we're fighting for: Our war is not about reducing the deficit, not about ending welfare for the rich, and not about the largesse or responsibility of private philanthropy. All we want is for Sen. McCain's accomplices not to replicate the most tendentious structures of contemporary life. Should we blindly trust such mingy losers? Comments like that don't sit well with amateurish, mephitic radicals. This means, in particular, that Sen. McCain's propositions represent a backward step of hundreds of years, a backward step into a chasm with no bottom save the endless darkness of death.

I am not going to go into too great a detail about birdbrained big-labor bosses, but be assured that mean-spirited and humorless, Sen. McCain's methods of interpretation resemble a dilapidated shed. Kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will collapse, proving my claim that I am hurt, furious, and embarrassed. Why am I hurt? Because Sen. McCain tries to make us think the way he wants us to think, not by showing us evidence and reasoning with us, but by understanding how to push our emotional buttons. Why am I furious? Because he seeks scapegoats for his own shortcomings by blaming the easiest target he can find, that is, the worst classes of appalling, despicable whiners there are. And why am I embarrassed? Because he proclaims at every opportunity that he'd never conspire with evil. The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks. Sen. McCain's circulars are based on a technique I'm sure you've heard of. It's called "lying". Those of us who are too lazy or disinterested to make plans and carry them out have no right to complain when he and his confreres demonstrate an outright hostility to law enforcement. Irrational misogynists are more susceptible to Sen. McCain's brainwashing tactics than are any other group. Like water, their minds take the form of whatever receptacle he puts them in. They then lose all recollection that Sen. McCain argues that I am callous for wanting to weed out people like Sen. McCain who have deceived, betrayed, and exploited us. I should point out that this is almost the same argument that was made against Copernicus and Galileo almost half a millennium ago.

If this letter did nothing else but serve as a beacon of truth, it would be worthy of reading by all right-thinking people. However, this letter's role is much greater than just to halt the destructive process that is carrying our civilization toward extinction. My purpose is to build a sane and healthy society free of Sen. McCain's destructive influences. Most of the battles I fight along the way are exigencies, not long-range educational activities. Nevertheless, what I wrote just a moment ago is not the paranoid rambling of a cruel wacko. It's a fact. I think I've dished it out to Sen. John McCain as best as I can in this letter. I hope you now understand why I say that it seems a bit late in the day for Sen. McCain to avoid the extremes of a pessimistic naturalism and an optimistic humanism by combining the truths of both.
 
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