Understanding designer supplements and all the other new stuff..

[Beatngu]

Hello all
After 4 weeks of research on the net about a good bulk diet to go with a bulk cycle i got very confused about all the new stuff on the market.
I have been out of the game for 10 years now but my body is screaming to get back in perfect shape.

But it seems that alot have changed in the years i have been away.........
When i started i read alot of books to get info about diets,cycles and supplemts.
On my cycles i mostly used amino acid and proteine shakes and a good diet.
Was looking for tips on the net about it and my head started to spinn when i saw all the new stuff that i never heard about before like designer supplements.

What is it?And who uses it?And when?
Im going to do a dbol/test cycle and i want to know if the regular supplements i used before is enough or should i add some of the new fancy stuff on the market?
Im seeing alot of new stuff like natural shit like testo and hormones is it at any use when using the real deal?
What do you guys use on a bulk cycle?The regular stuff like shakes,amino,creatine or some of this new stuff?Or both?

I have bought amino,weight & muscle gainer and creatine shall i add some more stuff?Or are many of the new product just some pice of crap?
I still have alot of questions about testo gel,spray and natural(maybe) products but ill splitt it up in diffrent threads.

Hope some 1 can answer some of my questions

PS:Sorry for all the typos my English is not that good!

 

[kdc1023]

I'd say use beastdrol in place of dbol and Im sure most ppl on here would agree.

Basically anything you can buy on Needtobuildmuscle.com: Supplements, articles, .... would be good.

I'm kind of a beginner still so ill let the pros answer the other questions

 

[elite_hunter68]

I'd say use beastdrol in place of dbol and Im sure most ppl on here would agree.

agreed
that or if you want mass you should go for Dieselbolan and if you are wanting to gain muscle while cutting go for the beastdrol+katanadrol shredder stack

i would throw in a nitric oxide supp.
don't buy from gnc
if you do i'll kill you.. jk

also what are you planning for pct?
unleashed or sustain would be great for pct and you should get some liver support because the methylated compounds in beast and diesel are liver toxic

 

[needtogetaas]

Of it has been a long time I would read threw this whole thread http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/taking-steroids-101-a-642856.html
then you can use the plat i just gave you to do a search on the subject of designer supplements.

 

[Beatngu]

Thanks alot for the platinum Needtogetass i will for sure use alot of time to read up on your products.
I was planning on a HCG/clomid,nolvadex pct but i got some nice tips from ez-e about some new products that i never had heard about before.
Now i think i will use HCG,sustrain alpha and unleashed for pct,but still got alot of reading and planning to do,what do you guys think?

For my cycle i have allready bought dbol and planning test e aswell,any of this new stuff you advice me to add on my cycle?Test e i still have to buy but open for suggestions for other products to use instead.
For my liver i think i will try out Forged liver support

1 question to you Needtogetass do you ship to the netherlands and are your products legal in Eu?

 

[needtogetaas]

Thanks alot for the platinum Needtogetass i will for sure use alot of time to read up on your products.
I was planning on a HCG/clomid,nolvadex pct but i got some nice tips from ez-e about some new products that i never had heard about before.
Now i think i will use HCG,sustrain alpha and unleashed for pct,but still got alot of reading and planning to do,what do you guys think?

For my cycle i have allready bought dbol and planning test e aswell,any of this new stuff you advice me to add on my cycle?Test e i still have to buy but open for suggestions for other products to use instead.
For my liver i think i will try out Forged liver support

1 question to you Needtogetass do you ship to the netherlands and are your products legal in Eu?

You know I have never shipped there before.

I will have to take a look and see if i can.

 

[kdc1023]

Ur PCT of hcg sustain and unleashed sounds good.

 

[Beatngu]

Thanks for the reply kdc,i guess my pct is sorted

Im reading your thread 101 needtogetass it is BRILLIANT!, its a nice refreshment of the things i used to know everything about.
And i have read up an the designer supplements and i cant wait for my second cycle so i can try them out
But how do theese designer supplements compare to the real deal?
Im allways sceptic to new products for all when they are legal
My previous use(ages ago) is a shit load of anadrol 50(extreme dosage),dbol,about every testo sorts,and alot of more(too many to write down here)

I have some questions about a diet for me in combination with my work........
I will make a new thread about this if any 1 here have some tips feel free to throw in a reply in my next thread.

 

[ConanX]

You can do something simple like a basic Dbol/Test cycle and use Beastdrol for the last 4 weeks.

1-12: Test E
1-4: Dbol
8-12: Beastdrol

Beastdrol is similiar to dbol gains but it will actually dry you out instead of bloat you. Seems like a good way to finish a cycle.

 

[Beatngu]

That sounds like a good idea conanx.
Not 100% sure yet to keep my first cycle on old gear and my second cycle designer supplements to try and see the diffrence between the good old stuff and the new stuff.
How are the designer supplement on the liver compared to dbol? i see some are a17.
On a oral cycle what are the most damaging on the liver?a dbol bulk cycle? or designer bulk cycle?