Uh oh!! We have a WHORE accuser!!!!!

[FreakMonster]

Bryant opts for hearing; alleged rape details revealed

But during cross-examination, a defense lawyer for the Los Angeles Lakers star suggested that the 19-year-old woman's injuries were not from the disputed encounter June 30 but rather from having "had sex with three different men in three days"

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2003-10-09-bryant-brief_x.htm

 

[Ganryu]

"Adding the new Bubba-Ray Prison Penis to your life may allow you to turn your physique into a mountain of shredded ass."

Good luck, Kobe. He will probably RULE at Bball in the klink. I hope he can play prison rules though.

 

[WODIN]

Bryant opts for hearing; alleged rape details revealed

But during cross-examination, a defense lawyer for the Los Angeles Lakers star suggested that the 19-year-old woman's injuries were not from the disputed encounter June 30 but rather from having "had sex with three different men in three days"

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2003-10-09-bryant-brief_x.htm

Nothing wrong wtih sex with three people in three days. I did this once and 1 of them was actually breathing and not fat so all I'm saying is...no means no and...yeah. Creamsicles Rule.

 

[vixenbabe]

I would think that a doc could tell if the bruises were "fresh" or from several days prior.

Shall be interesting to see the outcome of this entire ordeal.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

100% not guilty.

go lakers

 

[vixenbabe]

100% not guilty.

go lakers

What makes you think this?

I would not even venture to guess if he or she is not guilty at this point in the "game".

 

[NoDaddyNo]

I would think if that is the case, she is more of a slut than a whore.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

What makes you think this?

I would not even venture to guess if he or she is not guilty at this point in the "game".

I'm not guessing. It's pretty early. I am just hoping. Kobe is a national treasure. This girl is, well, not.

 

[rjl296]

I would think if that is the case, she is more of a slut than a whore.

i thought whores took money

 

[vixenbabe]

lol@national treasure. I'd prolly not laugh if my child had Kobe as her ideal idol!

I do not know the girl, so I can not say if she's mentor material or not.

Entire situation is gonna get ugly before any "truth" comes out! IF at all....

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

lol@national treasure. I'd prolly not laugh if my child had Kobe as her ideal idol!

I do not know the girl, so I can not say if she's mentor material or not.

Entire situation is gonna get ugly before any "truth" comes out! IF at all....

he's no role model. That's your job for your kids.

But Kobe is a national treasure. This girl is enjoying 15 minutes of relevance before she fades back to a life of irrelevance.

 

[vixenbabe]

he's no role model. That's your job for your kids.

But Kobe is a national treasure. This girl is enjoying 15 minutes of relevance before she fades back to a life of irrelevance.

I agree on the role model part. Sadly, myself included, I did not pick my mom or dad as someone to look up too as a child. I chose a friend of my sister's too worship at a tender age! I did, however, change my mentor worship when I got older and wiser!

I'm still unclear of the national treasure aspect you refer too regarding Kobe. Cuz he can play a mean ball game?

 

[Ganryu]

I agree with vixenbabe. National treasure? Interesting term to use.

 

[DeepZenPill]

Apparently she claims he grabbed her by the neck, but there weren't any bruises on her neck at all.

Shit like this is what makes people think Kobe is innocent.

 

[Ganryu]

It's basically going to come down to he-said she-said. Sadly, we will probably never know the exact truth, regardless of the outcome.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I'm still unclear of the national treasure aspect you refer too regarding Kobe. Cuz he can play a mean ball game?

Kobe is revered by millions. They love him and would aspire to live the life he leads.

later in life Kobe will havethe opportunity to change the world if he wants, through prudent use of his money. Magic Johnson has done a great job of giving back, for example.

This girl is by comparison insiginficant. Kobe should be punishedif he broke the law, but there should be repercussions for this girl if Kobe is acquitted, to deter the shit-stains of this world from unjustly accusing people like Kobe, who can actually make a difference.

sadly if he is acquitted, probably nothing will happen to her.

 

[Jimsbbc]

Her parents prob found out somehow and confronted her about it so she had to say it was rape since her parents are fucking racist bastards - her parents filed it anyway.

 

[fsupat70]

mike tyson is also a national treasure along with OJ

 

[fsupat70]

im also guessing matt that if he ripped open the twat of one of your realitives then made her kiss his pecker afterwards you would still say the same thing, GO LAKERS

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

im also guessing matt that if he ripped open the twat of one of your realitives then made her kiss his pecker afterwards you would still say the same thing, GO LAKERS

hey moron:

Did you read in my post where I wrote

Kobe should be punished if he broke the law

You're stupid. I searched a few of your posts and they all say the same thing: Stupid! Are you the stupidest on the board? Hard to say. A stupidity committee is looking into it. But you're a finalist.

I'll repeat myself, for stupid people like fsupat70:

Kobe should be punished if he broke the law. Got it, stupid? Good.

Until conviction, this is some irrelevant groupie ho making a stink and bringing down an icon.

see ya stupid.

Go Lakers.

 

[fsupat70]

someone that comes up with all the quotes you have today calls me stupid?? now thats funny, you like him for one reason he plays basketball, now thats stupid, you dont know this guy form adam yet you stick up for him when hes accused of raping some girl, why dont you stick up for the girl??? stupid

 

[Ganryu]

Until conviction, this is some irrelevant groupie ho making a stink and bringing down an icon.

Good post. I think it points out two HUGE flaws right now in society (hypothetically):

1. If Kobe did do it, it illustrates another example of a high profile celebrity thinking they can get away with anything.

2. If said woman is making it up, she IS trying to bring down an icon, get attention, get money (civil suit will come, I'm sure). Which reflects that we live in a sue happy, something for nothing society.

I just REALLY hope this is a situation where our legal system doesn't fail us.

 

[fsupat70]

on a side note i was voted the rudest and crudest in elite not the stupidist, maybe someone can buy you a dictonairy along with a kobe poster for christmas this year, stupid

 

[The_Eviscerator]

If we were in the Middle East we would just throw gasoline on the bitch and light her on fire for allowing herself to be raped and Kobe would be seen as a doing what men do.

 

[Ganryu]

maybe someone can buy you a dictonairy christmas this year, stupid

Oh, sweet irony!

 

[fsupat70]

Oh, sweet irony!

wow spelling smack, that and your 2 inch pecker must have the women hounding you ganyru

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

on a side note i was voted the rudest and crudest in elite not the stupidist, maybe someone can buy you a dictonairy along with a kobe poster for christmas this year, stupid

"stupidist" what does that mean?

good one. Is a "stupidist" a person who makes a practice of being stupid? How about a person who helps others to become stupid?

Stupid is your thing. BTW "rudest/crudest" is a nice way of packaging "stupid". So congrats.

I like Kobe because he hasn't been convicted of shit, yet here you are saying "why do you support him..."

I feel bad for people who are in the public eye like that - they are victims of so much dumb fake bullshit. This girl is some low rent nobody that is bringing misery to someone else's life just because they're famous.

If proven guilty in court, then Kobe can learn about sexual assualt the hard way.

Until then, the only court he should be in is the Staples center.

 

[Ganryu]

wow spelling smack, that and your 2 inch pecker must have the women hounding you ganyru

Easy, little man. Normally, I could give two shits about spelling errors.
1. There were multiple errors.
2. YOU were calling someone out as stupid, and you spelled dictionary wrong. I found it to be humorous.
3. You ARE stupid.

 

[SoKlueles]

I dont think anyone would want to think that the "national treasure" kobe bryant raped this woman. Its sad that we hold men that play any kind of sports on a pedistal.....If it was the normal Joe and he was accused, we would all be saying hang him by his balls...but this man knows how to dribble a basketball...and a national icon that screws around on his wife after she just gave birth to their first child...is a great role model to look up to.....something I would always want my kids to do to their wives. NOT.....I dont think we should be calling her a whore for anything.....she said no....whether she flirted with him or not. Kobe, nor any sports person, is a freakin God in my book. Mattskywalker, you are dissing fsu for posting his opinion....that is wrong too. He has a right to it. Just like you do too. This is a very touchy subject. If he raped this woman, I hope he has the money to buy some soap on a rope...because hes going to be someones bitch in prison. If she is lying, then she deserves to be punished also.

 

[SoKlueles]

Oh and you guys dissin each others typing is childish.

 

[tuc biscuit]

I dont think anyone would want to think that the "national treasure" kobe bryant raped this woman. Its sad that we hold men that play any kind of sports on a pedistal.....If it was the normal Joe and he was accused, we would all be saying hang him by his balls...but this man knows how to dribble a basketball...and a national icon that screws around on his wife after she just gave birth to their first child...is a great role model to look up to.....something I would always want my kids to do to their wives. NOT.....I dont think we should be calling her a whore for anything.....she said no....whether she flirted with him or not. Kobe, nor any sports person, is a freakin God in my book. Mattskywalker, you are dissing fsu for posting his opinion....that is wrong too. He has a right to it. Just like you do too. This is a very touchy subject. If he raped this woman, I hope he has the money to buy some soap on a rope...because hes going to be someones bitch in prison. If she is lying, then she deserves to be punished also.

nice

 

[fsupat70]

how do yo know this girl is some low rent nobody? do you know her? does that make ANY difference? are you some millionaire? your posts are getting dumber by the second

 

[fsupat70]

I dont think anyone would want to think that the "national treasure" kobe bryant raped this woman. Its sad that we hold men that play any kind of sports on a pedistal.....If it was the normal Joe and he was accused, we would all be saying hang him by his balls...but this man knows how to dribble a basketball...and a national icon that screws around on his wife after she just gave birth to their first child...is a great role model to look up to.....something I would always want my kids to do to their wives. NOT.....I dont think we should be calling her a whore for anything.....she said no....whether she flirted with him or not. Kobe, nor any sports person, is a freakin God in my book. Mattskywalker, you are dissing fsu for posting his opinion....that is wrong too. He has a right to it. Just like you do too. This is a very touchy subject. If he raped this woman, I hope he has the money to buy some soap on a rope...because hes going to be someones bitch in prison. If she is lying, then she deserves to be punished also.

owned

 

[Gymgurl]

I don't have to much to say here....but I think that if it was just a guy off the street and YOUR daughter/sister...your thoughts would be different. Yes maybe she went back to the hotel room with him and maybe she was intersted in him.....but no means no, and you are not above that no matter WHO you are or how FAMOUS you are. The other thing is that his sick ass wife supports him.....what is up with that?? She makes all women look bad!

 

[Ganryu]

owned

BANNED!

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I dont think anyone would want to think that the "national treasure" kobe bryant raped this woman. Its sad that we hold men that play any kind of sports on a pedistal.....If it was the normal Joe and he was accused, we would all be saying hang him by his balls...but this man knows how to dribble a basketball...and a national icon that screws around on his wife after she just gave birth to th first child...is a great role model to look up to.....something I would always want my kids to do to their wives. NOT.....I dont think we should be calling her a whore for anything.....she said no....whether she flirted with him or not. Kobe, nor any sports person, is a freakin God in my book. Mattskywalker, you are dissing fsu for posting his opinion....that is wrong too. He has a right to it. Just like you do too. This is a very touchy subject. If he raped this woman, I hope he has the money to buy some soap on a rope...because hes going to be someones bitch in prison. If she is lying, then she deserves to be punished also.

Innocent until proven guilty is not an opinion. Neither is fsupat70s stupidity for that matter. But back on topic:

We really don't need the trailer set accusing the top 1% in public. Even if Kobe gets acquitted, all the endrosement money is still gone. Tens of millions are gone. Poof. Justlike that, because this skank decided to slander him

Can he sue this $7 per hour ho to recover the loss? No.

What happens to her? jack shit.

So let;s treat her the same way...get her name and all that shit put on the web, interview her all the time, follow her to work, etc.

fair is fair.

She can level accusations and we don't even know what her name is, yet if Kobe goes outdoors he gets a media invasion. Those motherfuckers are at his fucking job videotaping him shooting jumpers.

let's follow her to work for a while.


Fucking class warfare is a bitch, isn't it?

 

[fsupat70]

BANNED!

better one, kiss enough mod ass they may give you some karma

 

[Ganryu]

better one, kiss enough mod ass they may give you some karma

Man, are you stupid. How is feuding with you getting me Karma? Who gives a shit about Karma? I LOVE you Internet Tough Guys.

 

[SoKlueles]

Innocent until proven guilty is not an opinion. Neither is fsupat70s stupidity for that matter. But back on topic:

We really don't need the trailer set accusing the top 1% in public. Even if Kobe gets acquitted, all the endrosement money is still gone. Tens of millions are gone. Poof. Justlike that, because this skank decided to slander him

Can he sue this $7 per hour ho to recover the loss? No.

What happens to her? jack shit.

So let;s treat her the same way...get her name and all that shit put on the web, interview her all the time, follow her to work, etc.

fair is fair.

She can level accusations and we don't even know what her name is, yet if Kobe goes outdoors he gets a media invasion. Those motherfuckers are at his fucking job videotaping him shooting jumpers.

let's follow her to work for a while.


Fucking class warfare is a bitch, isn't it?

bottom line....
NO matter what the situation.....he knows hes a role model..he should have kept it in HIS PANTS and saved it for the wife.
No ifs ands or buts about it......and if I am right, I spelled everything correctly.

 

[fsupat70]

Man, are you stupid. How is feuding with you getting me Karma? Who gives a shit about Karma? I LOVE you Internet Tough Guys.

thats funny i heard you love all guys

 

[tuc biscuit]

We really don't need the trailer set accusing the top 1% in public.

Can he sue this $7 per hour ho to recover the loss? No.

It is a mistake to assume wealth means that person is a 'good' person and vice-versa in my opinion.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

It is a mistake to assume wealth means that person is a 'good' person and vice-versa in my opinion.

He will lose a ton of money even if acquitted. he can't do anything to her legally to recover it.

fair?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

bottom line....
NO matter what the situation.....he knows hes a role model..he should have kept it in HIS PANTS and saved it for the wife.
No ifs ands or buts about it......and if I am right, I spelled everything correctly.

i dnot crae abotu spleling.

Right in that post you said he should be expceted to behave differently because he is famous. Why?

That's the motherfuckin' problem.

if Kobe cheats on his wife, it's national news. If Ron does it, no one cares. therefore, if Kobe is ultimately acquitted, the accuser should be punished for the losses Kobe suffered.

 

[tuc biscuit]

No not fair, but that is the life you lead as a high-profile celebrity, all I was saying (and perhaps I am being pedantic about semantics here) was that it is not right to assume that someone is in the 'top 1%' just because they have money, and it is wrong to assume she is a skank etc. just because she is less well off.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

No not fair, but that is the life you lead as a high-profile celebrity, all I was saying (and perhaps I am being pedantic about semantics here) was that it is not right to assume that someone is in the 'top 1%' just because they have money, and it is wrong to assume she is a skank etc. just because she is less well off.

i hear you...and I have been exaggerating to make a point. At the end of the day, I don't give a shit if KB lives, dies or grows mushrooms in his asscrack.

BTW the top 1% wasa wealth comment not a behavioral one.

Kobe is getting raked across the coals and nothing is proven. Right now it is equally likely this ho is lying, so let's get her some media exposure too and put a spotlight on her.

How is it right for him to lose tens of millions of dollars and her to remain anonymous?

 

[SoKlueles]

and because she doesnt get paid to dribble a basketball that makes her a skank????

 

[tuc biscuit]

It's not right, but if he don't want publicity then be faithful. In Briain there was a recnt press confidentiality clause passed to protect people in these types of situations (there is acase at the minute where seven footballers are accused of gang rape), perhaps you could do with a similar clause over there.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

and because she doesnt get paid to dribble a basketball that makes her a skank????

well, al we really have aer allegations. if you're ready to convict KB because of allegations, I'll pull out the defense allegation that she fucked 3 guys in 3 days.

That makes her a skank.

 

[spongebob]

Innocent until proven guilty is not an opinion. Neither is fsupat70s stupidity for that matter. But back on topic:

We really don't need the trailer set accusing the top 1% in public. Even if Kobe gets acquitted, all the endrosement money is still gone. Tens of millions are gone. Poof. Justlike that, because this skank decided to slander him

Can he sue this $7 per hour ho to recover the loss? No.

What happens to her? jack shit.

So let;s treat her the same way...get her name and all that shit put on the web, interview her all the time, follow her to work, etc.

fair is fair.

She can level accusations and we don't even know what her name is, yet if Kobe goes outdoors he gets a media invasion. Those motherfuckers are at his fucking job videotaping him shooting jumpers.

let's follow her to work for a while.


Fucking class warfare is a bitch, isn't it?

lol. damn matt it sounds like your jealous she got to sleep with him.

seriously, he became a star and with that comes ALL aspects of being one. one of them is when you get into situations like this you have to take the good with the bad.

to sit here and cry about kobe and his inability to go outside and not be hounded by the press is hilarious.

why dont we wait for the trial before passing judgement on either party.

 

[spongebob]

He will lose a ton of money even if acquitted. he can't do anything to her legally to recover it.

fair?

he'll probably think twice about screwing groupies from now on.

acquital doesnt mean inocent as shown by OJ.

dont worry though i am 100% confident there will be another basketball player you can fall in love with all over again.

 

[spongebob]

if Kobe cheats on his wife, it's national news. If Ron does it, no one cares. therefore, if Kobe is ultimately acquitted, the accuser should be punished for the losses Kobe suffered.

only kobe is entitled to losses, not ron?

 

[SoKlueles]

exactly......read what i wrote...... just cuz she may have slept with 3 guys makes her a skank...but a guy that does that is what?? a stud? bullcrap.....you are a male chauvinist matt.. These ppl are offering their opinion and you diss them for it? why is that?

 

[BonerBoy]

dont worry though i am 100% confident there will be another basketball player you can fall in love with all over again.

hahahahahaha

 

[spongebob]

well, al we really have aer allegations. if you're ready to convict KB because of allegations, I'll pull out the defense allegation that she fucked 3 guys in 3 days.

That makes her a skank.

if this is true, it may be quite revelant. its reported that she knew hw was coming to stay at the hotel and then she volunteered to give him a personal escort. this could be a premeditated plan as follows,

she knows he's coming, she has sex with three different guys days before kobe's visit hoping to sustain vaginal trauma, she volunteers her personal services for a tour and entrapps kobe in a sexual assault case.

scary, but possible.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

why dont we wait for the trial before passing judgement on either party.

that's my point br...sometiems ya gotta take teh opposite extreme to get people's attention.

I don;t care if Kobe eats dog food and shits himself at the staples center. I am just always amused by people's reactions to fame. I know a prominent movie producer (you've heard of him) and this is a source of big laughs.

Everybody wants to hang Kobe but no one says "let's shine the spotlight on the accuser". If Kobe is acquitted, this woman should be sold into slave labor in Kazakhstan to work off the losses she caused Kobe.

With our current legal system, neither Ron nor Kobe is entitled to recovery of losses if acquitted. And no one has come out and acknowledged that KB is losing millions because of this.

As bizarre as the OJ acquittal is, he's innocent from a legal standpoint.

 

[spongebob]

how do yo know this girl is some low rent nobody? do you know her? does that make ANY difference? are you some millionaire? your posts are getting dumber by the second

yes matt probably is a millionaire.

 

[big4life]

Because Bryant has money and is in the spotlight doesn't make him innocent or guilty, and just because his accuser has less money does not mean that she is lying.

The only thing that matters is what happened in that room on that night. That's all.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

she knows he's coming, she has sex with three different guys days before kobe's visit hoping to sustain vaginal trauma, she volunteers her personal services for a tour and entrapps kobe in a sexual assault case.

scary, but possible.

B-I-N-G-O spells Bingo.

Why would a guy making $30M a year who could have any one he wants...married or no....risk his lifestyle for 6 minutes of pleasure with a disinterested party?

10 million women would sleep with him today. It just doesn't make sense. There is no thought process to get to that point.

 

[spongebob]

I don;t care if Kobe eats dog food and shits himself at the staples center. I am just always amused by people's reactions to fame. I know a prominent movie producer (you've heard of him) and this is a source of big laughs.

Everybody wants to hang Kobe but no one says "let's shine the spotlight on the accuser". If Kobe is acquitted, this woman should be sold into slave labor in Kazakhstan to work off the losses she caused Kobe.

With our current legal system, neither Ron nor Kobe is entitled to recovery of losses if acquitted. And no one has come out and acknowledged that KB is losing millions because of this.

As bizarre as the OJ acquittal is, he's innocent from a legal standpoint.

who is the movie producer?

im on the fence on this one, i think either one could be telling the truth.

and ive always thought that it sucks that the accussed does lose financially(with any crime someone may be accussed of).

this will be a tough case to call. i hope the evidence is very strong either way. if he is innocent i hope the prosecutions case is extremely weak and vise-versa. because i dont want people debating this forever.

can you imagine what kobe will have to face during the season. the insults by fans, i dont know if he will be able to handle that. im surprised he is playing this season, if he does.

 

[big4life]

B-I-N-G-O spells Bingo.

Why would a guy making $30M a year who could have any one he wants...married or no....risk his lifestyle for 6 minutes of pleasure with a disinterested party?

10 million women would sleep with him today. It just doesn't make sense. There is no thought process to get to that point.

The same reason that most people do stupid things, they quit thinking.

 

[spongebob]

B-I-N-G-O spells Bingo.

Why would a guy making $30M a year who could have any one he wants...married or no....risk his lifestyle for 6 minutes of pleasure with a disinterested party?

10 million women would sleep with him today. It just doesn't make sense. There is no thought process to get to that point.

i dont profess to understand the underlyings of the sexual desires of a rapist, but IMO it has nothing to do with "availability" of women or financial status.

i saw a program the other night about that rapist that fled to mexico and that bounty hunter captured him.

the rapist was the nephew of max factor, the make up. this guy had everything and money. he was good looking and very outgoing.

his one fault was he liked to drug women with ghb and perform sexual acts on them while they were passed out. plus he filmed it. this stemmed from an obsession to have sex with basically a "dead" person. the filming of this is actually a genra in the industry.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

who is the movie producer?

im on the fence on this one, i think either one could be telling the truth.

and ive always thought that it sucks that the accussed does lose financially(with any crime someone may be accussed of).

this will be a tough case to call. i hope the evidence is very strong either way. if he is innocent i hope the prosecutions case is extremely weak and vise-versa. because i dont want people debating this forever.

can you imagine what kobe will have to face during the season. the insults by fans, i dont know if he will be able to handle that. im surprised he is playing this season, if he does.

check ya PM.

Anyway yeah it blows. KB is going to continue to get dragged through the mud....

I understand and appreciate rape shield laws but there has to be fairness all around. Innocent until proven guilty mean just that.

 

[SoKlueles]

so she is guilty just because he hasnt been proved guilty??? Double standards suck....either show more proof or wait till the trial is over before you call her a whore. I dont see her face anywhere.....I dont see anything that even INDICATES she is doing this for her 15 minutes of fame. Like i said earlier......he should have kept it in his pants and he wouldnt be in this mess.

 

[white boy]

Like i said earlier......he should have kept it in his pants and he wouldnt be in this mess.

at his age thats a helluva lot easier said than

I could'nt do it at his age

 

[SoKlueles]

He should have tho...he is married..with a small child...a newborn at that....and hes famous does he not think that his indiscretions would go unnoticed by his wife or anyone else?

 

[anabolicmd]

He should have tho...he is married..with a small child...a newborn at that....and hes famous does he not think that his indiscretions would go unnoticed by his wife or anyone else?

Dont bother, Matt always argues in favor of those in power, the rich and the politically correct. Nothing personal Matt, but you appear in love with the status quo because you got a few bucks in the bank.

 

[white boy]

He should have tho...he is married..with a small child...a newborn at that....and hes famous does he not think that his indiscretions would go unnoticed by his wife or anyone else?

thats a big problem with young people having kids, the little babies require alot of attention

part of being young means less self control and not knowing how far to push the envelope and besides he told her not to tell

 

[javaguru]

[quote[B-I-N-G-O spells Bingo.

Why would a guy making $30M a year who could have any one he wants...married or no....risk his lifestyle for 6 minutes of pleasure with a disinterested party?

10 million women would sleep with him today. It just doesn't make sense. There is no thought process to get to that point. [/quote]

1. I believe in innocent until proven guilty but Kobe will probably be acquitted even if he is guilty, unless there is some bombshell unequivocal evidence showing rape, million dollar defences can purchase reasonable doubt.


2. He admits to having sex with this girl. This indiscretion alone would probably have cost him millions in endorsements and he very likely could have lost half his shit in a divorce. He should have known had it gone public it would cause a small media event and ruined his reputation. Yet he chose to bang the girl anyway, which shows his thought processes weren't engaged.

3. I really don't have much sympathy for him because he had a lot to lose by simply banging the chick rape or not. The guys I feel sorry for are the innocent everyday guys who can't afford to mount an expensive defence.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Dont bother, Matt always argues in favor of those in power, the rich and the politically correct. Nothing personal Matt, but you appear in love with the status quo because you got a few bucks in the bank.

Class warfare is the attack of the jealous. It started with the Industrial revolution and hasn't stopped since.

BTW I am in love with my ststus quo. However I use my resources to try and improve the world through business development.

there's nothing PC about coming out in defense of Kobe. PC would be coming to the defense of this woman and maligning Kobe.


javaGuru - I totally understand yer points.


SoKlueles - you sound like you're about 34 and upset at the world. You;re all over the place with your topics...I don't now what to tell you.

 

[onerepmaximum]

He should have tho...he is married..

She is hot too!

 

[Spartacus]

well, al we really have aer allegations. if you're ready to convict KB because of allegations, I'll pull out the defense allegation that she fucked 3 guys in 3 days.

That makes her a skank.

I know what I'd think of a defense attorney who asked whether the injuries were consistent with having sex with three different men on three different nights, were I sitting on a jury. I'd think: "Smear tactic: and no further evidence along these lines will be of interest to me."

The defense could have asked "Are vaginal injuries also an expectable outcome of consensual sex?"

Or the defense could have asked "Are vaginal injuries an expectable outcome of having lots of sex, for example, with her boyfriend?"

The fact that the defense chose to imply, in one quick mudball, that the injuries can result of normal/frequent sex and also that the woman was promiscuous tells me the defense is full of sh1t. And were I on the jury I'd punish the defense for that line of reasoning by arguing forcefully in the jury room to disregard any defense testimony regarding the woman's past behavior.

That would not necessarily lead me, however, to convict. Physical evidence on the victim would still be the primary consideration, along with, to a lesser extent, the victim's and accused's testimony.

 

[SoKlueles]

Class warfare is the attack of the jealous. It started with the Industrial revolution and hasn't stopped since.

BTW I am in love with my ststus quo. However I use my resources to try and improve the world through business development.

there's nothing PC about coming out in defense of Kobe. PC would be coming to the defense of this woman and maligning Kobe.


javaGuru - I totally understand yer points.


SoKlueles - you sound like you're about 34 and upset at the world. You;re all over the place with your topics...I don't now what to tell you.

lol whatever....good comeback.....your comebacks were..talking about peoples typing when they slapped you with their words...and telling me i am 34 and mad at the world..hahaha im not 34 buddy.and im not mad at anyone...what a troublemaker u are.

 

[SoKlueles]

You see one side of this....your side..and to hell with anyone elses....they were posting their opinions..and you posted yours.....agreed? Why slander everyone elses? This site isnt the 1940s and we arent Germany. We can post our opinions. Grow up.

 

[anabolicmd]

You see one side of this....your side..and to hell with anyone elses....they were posting their opinions..and you posted yours.....agreed? Why slander everyone elses? This site isnt the 1940s and we arent Germany. We can post our opinions. Grow up.

Hi there.

 

[Gymgurl]

Class warfare is the attack of the jealous. It started with the Industrial revolution and hasn't stopped since.

BTW I am in love with my ststus quo. However I use my resources to try and improve the world through business development.

there's nothing PC about coming out in defense of Kobe. PC would be coming to the defense of this woman and maligning Kobe.


javaGuru - I totally understand yer points.


SoKlueles - you sound like you're about 34 and upset at the world. You;re all over the place with your topics...I don't now what to tell you.

I didn't think SoKlueles sounded angry at anyone. I think that she really spoke out about what us decent human beings feel. Her topic always remained the same. Yours however, repeated the same redundent point without any backup or explanation to it.

 

[SoKlueles]

Hi there.

hi

 

[SoKlueles]

Ty gymgurl....i did get some postive karma from that..so someone liked it.....

 

[Mandinka2]

I didn't think SoKlueles sounded angry at anyone. I think that she really spoke out about what us decent human beings feel. Her topic always remained the same. Yours however, repeated the same redundent point without any backup or explanation to it.

What is this? The Posse has arrived!

 

[Gymgurl]

No.....I just felt that she had a very valid point and it was not being heard by the friendly moderator.

 

[SoKlueles]

No.....I just felt that she had a very valid point and it was not being heard by the friendly moderator.

friendly?

 

[Mandinka2]

No.....I just felt that she had a very valid point and it was not being heard by the friendly moderator.

I've read a lot of her posts and I notice plenty of hypocrisy on male-female relations , which is typical for immature people of both sexes. Matt makes several good points about classes and political correctness , you yourself use the expression "decent human beings" to categorise all who hold your views or similar ,with the obvious implication being that all who do not agree with your point of view being at least "indecent". I do not know whether this person is guilty or innocent , I do know of several cases where prominent people's lives have been ruined by false rape accusations (professional individuals , not sportsmen althought the Mike Tpyson/Desiree Washington case was dramatically suspect IMHO) and I feel that this is a situation where the prosecution has had things a little easy.

 

[SoKlueles]

In between the sheets u know how ppl bs in there...this is serious crap.... rape is serious....get real....if it was your sister would u call her a whore? I would say not....even if she had sex with 3 guys in 3 days I think u wouldnt. but u judge this woman before the trial by calling her a whore.....its not right....and putting him on that pedistal just because hes a basketball player? woopie...

 

[BonerBoy]

friendly?

 

[Mandinka2]

In between the sheets u know how ppl bs in there...this is serious crap.... rape is serious....get real....if it was your sister would u call her a whore? I would say not....even if she had sex with 3 guys in 3 days I think u wouldnt. but u judge this woman before the trial by calling her a whore.....its not right....and putting him on that pedistal just because hes a basketball player? woopie...

First of all I take all posts seriously unless they are obviously bs from the start , the board has seen plenty of jokers but especially after the last summer here , slingin shit around has gotten way old....
I don't know about YOUR sister but MY sister would never dream of doing what you mention above and if she did she'd get a MAJOR dressing down from her friends and family in Ireland (and coincidentally Klueles so would I lest you WANT to believe something else - I lost my virginity at 19 , and endured endless issues with my parents as a result FYI). I DIDNT call anyone a whore lest you forget nor did I back up Matt's comment , however having said that it has been my experience that women and men who have been loose in the past are EXTREMELY likely to be loose in the present , despite what modern feminism would like us to think with regard to rape cases.
I do not put this man/boy on a pedestal , as far as I'm concerned he's just a gifted athlete , personally I have just as much sympathy with the dedicated professional who has put in many thousands of study hours or the entrpreneur who has dedicated their lives to reasonable endeavours (porn/sex/drug trade excepted her natch). All of those people's livelihoods and indeed the livelihoods of their spouses and children which depend on their reputations are put at risk by such activity (if it is indeed found that the allegations are fallacious).

 

[BonerBoy]

First of all I take all posts seriously unless they are obviously bs from the start , the board has seen plenty of jokers but especially after the last summer here , slingin shit around has gotten way old....

hey dude, is there any way you can put this in less words?

otherwise there is no way anyone will read that

I know I for sure could'nt

 

[canadianhitman]

Kobe is gonna walk....and she will forever be known as the suicidal slut that cried wolf.

 

[Mandinka2]

hey dude, is there any way you can put this in less words?

otherwise there is no way anyone will read that

I know I for sure could'nt

No
(how's that?)

 

[BonerBoy]

Do we know if he raped her? No. None of us were there.

Do we know that she's a slut? Yes.

Therefore, not guilty.

That's like a porn star or a stripper crying rape. Like anyone is gonna care.

Celebrities don't rape people. Especially ones with money.

-= nav =-

quit jerking me around, would ya, I'm gettin a Boner

 

[spongebob]

I don't know about YOUR sister but MY sister would never dream of doing what you mention above and if she did she'd get a MAJOR dressing down from her friends and family in Ireland (and coincidentally Klueles so would I lest you WANT to believe something else - I lost my virginity at 19 , and endured endless issues with my parents as a result FYI). I DIDNT call anyone a whore lest you forget nor did I back up Matt's comment , however having said that it has been my experience that women and men who have been loose in the past are EXTREMELY likely to be loose in the present , despite what modern feminism would like us to think with regard to rape cases.

so because in your family and culture a women that has sex is "loose" and being "loose" is a whore we should consider that as part of this case? the defense would absolutely love to have you on the jury. someone who try's to use unfounded logic to reach a verdict.

 

[Mandinka2]

so because in your family and culture a women that has sex is "loose" and being "loose" is a whore we should consider that as part of this case? the defense would absolutely love to have you on the jury. someone who try's to use unfounded logic to reach a verdict.

I'm sorry Bro , didnt you READ my post before you replied ?, I said the same applied to ME (a male). I didn't equate being loose with being a whore , but you seem to have made that jump all by yourself. Hmmmmm.... you seem to have a few issues with logic yourself , let's break it down here for you:
Rape is the sexual act of intercourse without consent , yes? Good.
Now there are two questions - Did intercourse take place - no contest there.
2nd was consent forthcoming? - He says yes , she denies this , hence we are left assessing the likelihood of her actually consenting at the time, are u getting warmer now Einstein?

Honestly , I have received my first red karma on this board as a result of this thread with the cryptic message "sorry dude i resly hat to do this but my bros" , lol , so my earlier remark regarding posses being used on the board to decide matters rather than using thought out arguments is entirely relevant. Personally I care little ,if a person has such a weak backbone that they cannot make their own decisions for themselves then they are indeed an unworthy adversary (or comrade).

 

[Mandinka2]

so because in your family and culture a women that has sex is "loose" and being "loose" is a whore we should consider that as part of this case? the defense would absolutely love to have you on the jury. someone who try's to use unfounded logic to reach a verdict.

It would do you some further good to read the context in which I made that remark , which was in response to SoKlueles's assertion that I wouldn't call my sister a "whore" if she had sex with 3 different guys over 3 consecutive days. To be honest if political correctness prevents us calling a spade other than a spade then this board has reached an entirely new low.

 

[spongebob]

I'm sorry Bro , didnt you READ my post before you replied ?, I said the same applied to ME (a male). I didn't equate being loose with being a whore , but you seem to have made that jump all by yourself. Hmmmmm.... you seem to have a few issues with logic yourself , let's break it down here for you:
Rape is the sexual act of intercourse without consent , yes? Good.
Now there are two questions - Did intercourse take place - no contest there.
2nd was consent forthcoming? - He says yes , she denies this , hence we are left assessing the likelihood of her actually consenting at the time, are u getting warmer now Einstein?

1. quit trying to sound really intelligent!

2. i didnt say one thing nor did i make the jump you assummed i made. please learn to discern.

3. my response has nothing to do whether you apply the same criteria to males, i could care less.

4. you assume she is "loose" do you not?

5. you assume because she was "loose" in the past she is "loose" now do you not?

6. you assume by being "loose" this somehow has anything to do with whether this is a rape case or not, do you not.

if you answered yes to questions 4, 5 and 6, then you stand corrected sir.

thank you!

 

[Mandinka2]

1. quit trying to sound really intelligent!

2. i didnt say one thing nor did i make the jump you assummed i made. please learn to discern.

3. my response has nothing to do whether you apply the same criteria to males, i could care less.

4. you assume she is "loose" do you not?

5. you assume because she was "loose" in the past she is "loose" now do you not?

6. you assume by being "loose" this somehow has anything to do with whether this is a rape case or not, do you not.

if you answered yes to questions 4, 5 and 6, then you stand corrected sir.

thank you!

1. LMAO! Thanks yourself , I only woke up an hour or so ago.

2. Here is your the pertinent part of your previous post: "a women that has sex is "loose" and being "loose" is a whore" . I believe that's a Quod Erat Dictum to me!

3. As per the quote in the previous post , you make mention of only women where I make mention of both sexes. The fact that you care less is irrelevant. I originally made the point so that SoKlueles or other such females wouldn't start that fallacious "Men who are whores are studs" bs.

4. I do not "assume" anything , an "assumption" is an a-priori statement , this "opinion" or "judgement" was made whilst making an observation of her behaviour. One who behaves in a "loose" manner could be reasonably said to BE "loose". Boy , this is sure fun!

5. Once again , I did not make an assumption , check my post for an "inference" from my experience.

6. I do not assume , it is my contention that the two central questions relating to any contested rape case (see earlier post for clarification on those questions) are dependent upon the credibility of both parties and therefore the character (in respect of their sexual behaviour) of those parties.

 

[spongebob]

1. LMAO! Thanks yourself , I only woke up an hour or so ago.

2. Here is your the pertinent part of your previous post: "a women that has sex is "loose" and being "loose" is a whore" . I believe that's a Quod Erat Dictum to me!

3. As per the quote in the previous post , you make mention of only women where I make mention of both sexes. The fact that you care less is irrelevant. I originally made the point so that SoKlueles or other such females wouldn't start that fallacious "Men who are whores are studs" bs.

4. I do not "assume" anything , an "assumption" is an a-priori statement , this "opinion" or "judgement" was made whilst making an observation of her behaviour. One who behaves in a "loose" manner could be reasonably said to BE "loose". Boy , this is sure fun!

5. Once again , I did not make an assumption , check my post for an "inference" from my experience.

6. I do not assume , it is my contention that the two central questions relating to any contested rape case (see earlier post for clarification on those questions) are dependent upon the credibility of both parties and therefore the character (in respect of their sexual behaviour) of those parties.

we are going to go in circles with this if i have to explain everything in detail.

now read carefully, i said "woman" because that is what we are talking about obviously. it is a women that alledgedly was raped. it is a women that allededly had sex with various partners. it is a women that you said you did not call a whore but expressed your opinion about her sex life making her "loose".

i fully understand that where you come from it is considered to be "loose" if either sex engages in sexual activities before mommy and daddy say its OK. but seeing how we are talking about the women in this particular case, i chose to use that gender.

thats funny bro, "one who behaves in a "loose" manner could reasonably said to be "loose"".

its only "loose" in ireland where mommy and daddy will give you a MAJOR dressing down.

your opinion of her "looseness" is still an assumption.

p.s. out of my original three sentenced post, you have managed to turn this into a three post lecture. you read too much into my post.

now go drink some more coffee before engaging in strenuous brain activities.

 

[spongebob]

however having said that it has been my experience that women and men who have been loose in the past are EXTREMELY likely to be loose in the present , despite what modern feminism would like us to think with regard to rape cases.

why even referrence this to rape cases, being raped has absolutely nothing to do with whether a person is "loose" or not.

 

[Mandinka2]

now read carefully, i said "woman" because that is what we are talking about obviously. it is a women that alledgedly was raped. it is a women that allededly had sex with various partners. it is a women that you said you did not call a whore but expressed your opinion about her sex life making her "loose".

But my post concerning "looseness" was directed at SoKlueles , not at the rape question (although it is definitely relevant to that question). OK , I think is a simple misunderstanding , I merely wished to point out that my background and family does not treat women and men in a dissimilar fashion.

i fully understand that where you come from it is considered to be "loose" if either sex engages in sexual activities before mommy and daddy say its OK. but seeing how we are talking about the women in this particular case, i chose to use that gender.

The credibility of the man is also in question , has he assaulted women in the past? Is there any indication of rape tendencies? All of these questions are at least as pertinent.

thats funny bro, "one who behaves in a "loose" manner could reasonably said to be "loose"".

its only "loose" in ireland where mommy and daddy will give you a MAJOR dressing down.

your opinion of her "looseness" is still an assumption.

Yes , I thought it was funny too ,it's 1st year logic in high school where I'm from. But seriously Bro , it's not just in Ireland , France Italy and Spain are very similar , I had the pleasure of meeting quite a few fine women from these countries , one a very beautiful French girl who was happy to say that she didnt wanna have sex with many guys before she was married , of course we slept in the same bed and fooled around a little but some things are best left for someone special , Ireland isn't unique in this , even if your society (or circle of acquaintances) has resigned itself to the lowest common denominator.

p.s. out of my original three sentenced post, you have managed to turn this into a three post lecture. you read too much into my post.

now go drink some more coffee before engaging in strenuous brain activities.

I like to argue effectively and cogently , some members appreciate it , some don't.
I don't take any stimulants of any kind unless before exams so that their effectiveness is not blunted (but thanks for the suggestion).

 

[Mandinka2]

why even referrence this to rape cases, being raped has absolutely nothing to do with whether a person is "loose" or not.

Bro I have already addressed this point in post#91 , please re-read , now it is you who is going around in circles. It is a question of the credibility of the alledgedly raped party.

 

[the nature boy]

how come those broads don't live near me?

 

[SoKlueles]

Why does he type so much? Im impressed

 

[spongebob]

I didn't equate being loose with being a whore , but you seem to have made that jump all by yourself.

you didnt equate it, you implied it with this statement.


"I don't know about YOUR sister but MY sister would never dream of doing what you mention above and if she did she'd get a MAJOR dressing down from her friends and family in Ireland (and coincidentally Klueles so would I lest you WANT to believe something else - I lost my virginity at 19 , and endured endless issues with my parents as a result FYI). I DIDNT call anyone a whore lest you forget nor did I back up Matt's comment , however having said that it has been my experience that women and men who have been loose in the past are EXTREMELY likely to be loose in the present , despite what modern feminism would like us to think with regard to rape cases."


now this is my original post,

"so because in your family and culture a women that has sex is "loose" and being "loose" is a whore we should consider that as part of this case? the defense would absolutely love to have you on the jury. someone who try's to use unfounded logic to reach a verdict."

question time again.
1. in your family and culture is it percieved that a women(or male if that makes you happy) who has sex a few times and before mommy and daddys approval is considered "loose"?

2. did you not imply that such said "looseness" is a whore?

3. do you not believe that such said "looseness" should be considered in this case?

these three questions are directly related to my above post. nothing more, nothing less.

i will answer for you but in your own words.

1. "I don't know about YOUR sister but MY sister would never dream of doing what you mention above and if she did she'd get a MAJOR dressing down from her friends and family in Ireland".

2. "I DIDNT call anyone a whore lest you forget nor did I back up Matt's comment , however having said that it has been my experience that women and men who have been loose in the past are EXTREMELY likely to be loose in the present".

3. "But my post concerning "looseness" was directed at SoKlueles , not at the rape question (although it is definitely relevant to that question)".

again, i think you read too much into my original post. the statements i made in that post certainly look to be true by your own admissions.

so to sum it up here, you believe this women is "loose" based on one question by the defense team and a rumor. that is an assumption on your part.

your society "dresses" people down for such said "loosness" regardless of gender.

you believe that her supposed "looseness" should be considered as evidence in this case.