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Uh-Oh for Microsoft?
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Apple will return to its failures of the past without its leader. It's sad but try Samsung is already kicking the crap out of the in handheld sales. I would love to buy some 2-3 years leap puts on apple.
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javaguru
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Kinda ironic Microsoft kept them alive when they should have gone to the dustbin of business history.
bakemeacookie
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Saying that for years - MIcrosoft ain't going away. In fact, their revenues are at all-time highs. That means, they can do as much stupid crap as they want. They can afford the losses.
uamaverick
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I lol'd when the article said that the Kinect is a great piece of technology. That may be true, but nobody buys it, and the software is ass for it.
Also, Ballmer is looking like a scarecrow these days. DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS
The article is kind of stupid, though. The vast majority of businesses simply are not going to switch to Macs or tablets for business use. Most businesses have a hard enough time just switching/updating software. Every company I've worked for that has switched internal software has been met with disgruntled employees, and it takes a full month just to iron out glitches and kinks in the system. It takes another 2-3 months for all of the employees to feel comfortable and efficient in working with the new software. Do you really think the average person wants to migrate to an OS that, for all practical purposes, feels completely foreign in every way? The Mac mouse doesn't even have a right mouse button, for God's sake. It would take the average user a week just to figure out how to use the Mac's mouse.
Also, Ballmer is looking like a scarecrow these days. DEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERSDEVELOPERS
The article is kind of stupid, though. The vast majority of businesses simply are not going to switch to Macs or tablets for business use. Most businesses have a hard enough time just switching/updating software. Every company I've worked for that has switched internal software has been met with disgruntled employees, and it takes a full month just to iron out glitches and kinks in the system. It takes another 2-3 months for all of the employees to feel comfortable and efficient in working with the new software. Do you really think the average person wants to migrate to an OS that, for all practical purposes, feels completely foreign in every way? The Mac mouse doesn't even have a right mouse button, for God's sake. It would take the average user a week just to figure out how to use the Mac's mouse.
kx250rider
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There's no telling what will become of Apple, MS, or any other huge tech company. One of the biggest and strongest tech companies was RCA. It's still around, but it's broken up in tiny pieces and is no longer more than a licensing label on stuff. From the 1930-60s, David Sarnoff pushed RCA to to be the boss of all home entertainment. He owned NBC and the media, and patents on virtually every part of the TV set, the radio, the phonograph, and also bought into the entertainment and recording industry. Of course he was a murderer and a mafia tyrant, but people overlooked that because they wanted TV and radio. The only difference between David Sarnoff's home entertainment empire and Al Capone's gambling casino empire, was that Capone forgot that the IRS is the ONE entity that you cannot cheat or kill off and get away with it. Otherwise, they're the same.
What happened? The market changed, and too many other technologies came to exist, and this ruined all the RCA exclusive patents. The same may happen to Apple and MS. Only time will tell....
Charles
What happened? The market changed, and too many other technologies came to exist, and this ruined all the RCA exclusive patents. The same may happen to Apple and MS. Only time will tell....
Charles
redsamurai
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It seems that the "wintel" bromance might be breaking up as well. Intel is trying to be the ipad chip supplier. This probably means Intel is bailing on the desktop market to some extent, as evidenced by this link...Leaked Intel roadmap shows the end of socketed CPUs – the end of upgradable PCs? | ExtremeTech
If this happens I'm off intel products for good and switching to AMD for everything as long as they stay socketed.
If this happens I'm off intel products for good and switching to AMD for everything as long as they stay socketed.
I'd be really, really surprised if it got to that point. AMD would probably make a killing since they'd have the lock down on that still-huge market.
Headholio
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The 12 month chart on Microsoft stock shows it starting a year ago below 26, rising to a peak of just under 33 in March, and declining to just above 26 right now. Not a stellar year, but not indicative of a collapse in any way.
I personally don't see the tablet market as a threat to PC's and basically everyone using PC's are using Windows. Microsoft is doing fine without much tablet or phone market share, and I would bet that they can increase that share, while holding on to PC share, meaning things are likely just going to get better for them.
PS- I dont know what the fuck I'm talking about.
I personally don't see the tablet market as a threat to PC's and basically everyone using PC's are using Windows. Microsoft is doing fine without much tablet or phone market share, and I would bet that they can increase that share, while holding on to PC share, meaning things are likely just going to get better for them.
PS- I dont know what the fuck I'm talking about.
I've never upgraded the processor once I assembled a system anyway. I just wait 'til the whole rig is hopelessly obsolescent and then replace the motherboard, processor and RAM all at the same time.
My present system dates back to August 2007 and still works too well for me to be in much of a hurry to replace. But if they started soldering processors to the motherboards, I don't think that would change my upgrade habits.
I thought that the M$ tactic was because of the DOJ ruling.
redsamurai
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christ i thought i was a laggard. lol
yeah it doesn't sound like you're asking much from your pc there DB...so no this wouldn't effect you at all. In fact you're probably the demographic best suited to tablets. Pretty much just get a tablet and hook it up to a monitor at home when you need. People doing alot of editing or heavy MS office work (or gaming
) need to be able to upgrade pc's.
It's cool being able to upgrade PC's, but I think efficient software is more important than hardware. I think of how much $$ I basically pissed away trying to get a few more frames out of Crysis; in less than 5 years I'm now on my 2nd OS, twice the RAM, 2nd CPU, 4th GPU, aftermarket CPU and GPU cooler...all those increments add up. Granted games and video editors do run noticeably faster now, and the option to upgrade as needed is convenient and cost effective, but those smaller incremental steps simply aren't worth the time/money to me anymore unless actually needed.
This is also why I'll probably always be more of a console gamer. The improvements from one generation to the next are like night and day by contrast.
This is also why I'll probably always be more of a console gamer. The improvements from one generation to the next are like night and day by contrast.
christ i thought i was a laggard. lol
yeah it doesn't sound like you're asking much from your pc there DB...so no this wouldn't effect you at all. In fact you're probably the demographic best suited to tablets. Pretty much just get a tablet and hook it up to a monitor at home when you need. People doing alot of editing or heavy MS office work (or gaming
I can't say that I notice much difference between my ancient Core2Duo system at home, and the Core i5 at work. Guess it helps that I have more RAM on my home machine.
javaguru
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Fuck, I'm gonna nerd. I agree about software optimization. Maybe it's because I'm old, which it is...but back in the day you paid attention to data type because memory was so expensive. The hardware advances so fast that I bet I could write some software with a memory leak a user wouldn't notice unless they worked past the standard eight hour work day.
redsamurai
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while I agree software optimization is crucial, there's a balance that has to be met. If crytek was tasked with getting Crysis 3 (omg have you seen those gameplay trailers holy fucking sheet) to run on either the 360 or the ps3, they'd be coding for years. But Crysis 1 wasn't optimized enough, it's like they spent zero time trying to get that fucker to run properly on different setups. I just got done playing it and had everything up on on the absolute highest settings with my i3 and 6870 overclocked a little. It would run flawlessly in combat and then all of a sudden there would be nothing going on in the screen but some far away sound or explosion would all of a sudden make it stutter. And of course the final carrier battle bug was just a nightmare....but I do have win 7 64 bit which it was clearly not written for cause I had to start the game in admin mode or it simply refused to even start the game. Warhead was flawless and so was crysis 2. I will likely need to at least upgrade to an i5 or Crysis 3 and probably get a 7870
Actually you'll be just fine for Crysis 3, since it's based on a refined engine they built to run on consoles as well. Granted the consoles won't have DX11 features like crazy frog tessellation or such, but Crysis 3 will run and look better on all systems.
All because they reworked their engine to run on consoles. If they just kept it a PC exclusive, then chances are yeah you'd have to upgrade again already.
But mark my words, there will be next gen games that'll blow that trailer away.
redsamurai
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They must've made a separate game for PC then, because gut damn those specs outdo even the original Crysis at the time. Only difference is, the original was a lot more advanced looking for its time.
Last I was really following this game they had some DX11 features shoehorned into the consoles.
More Crysis 3.
But I'm not about to make the same mistake with this as I did with the original, chasing performance. The way Windows is going it's questionable if I'll even build another PC. We'll see how things pan out.
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